[Fis] Current remarks

[Krassimir Markov]

Dear Steve,

I respect your opinion and understanding of the world through AE, but still
there are some reasonable scientific boundaries that should not be crossed.
Here is a small example.

Air existed before we were born and, I hope, if there is no destructive war
instigated by russia, it will continue to exist after our death. At the
same time, without air we cannot live, i.e. we are an open system that
constantly exchanges resources with the environment. In other words, living
organisms are not autopoietic systems. To convince yourself of this
statement, just stop breathing. The conviction in the truth of the
statement will come to you only after a minute or two and you will probably
accept that your operator should be written

O=F(O, Input, Output).

I am writing this in connection with your statement that "Material
processes and interpretive activity are not alternatives; they are two
sides of the same ecological dynamic. Neither can be shown to precede the
other.” which I cannot accept as true.

Just as there are no closed autopoietic systems, so there is no reality
that cannot exist without interpretation.

The ecological dynamic you are talking about is a mental structure and, of
course, in it properly the mental structures that reflect the material
processes and the mental structures that interpret them are dialectically
connected in consciousness, and yes - they are two sides of a common mental
structure, if we can even talk about sides in mental structures.



Dear Eric,

I completely agree with your thoughts. Indeed, the study of the processes
of interaction between people is very important and has great significance.
Unfortunately, my impression is that most researchers adhere to the deeply
erroneous and inapplicable to humans Shannon's paradigm.

Yes, the theory of signal transmission is wonderfully applied in technical
data transmission systems, where the basic principle is "copy/paste". In
other words, the image that is formed in the recipient's memory completely
(100%!!!) coincides with the image in the sender's memory. Any deviation is
considered an error and requires re-sending the data, as well as the
application of error-resistant codes during transmission.

In humans, this is absolutely impossible and inapplicable. "Copy/paste"
cannot happen due to the nature of the interaction between people, which is
at the level of meaning, and not at the level of signals (reflections). The
sender (a person or group of people) externalizes their mental structures
(for example, this letter), and the recipient reflects what they have
received and gives it their own meaning. It is impossible in this process
to obtain an exact copy of the image from the source's memory in the
receiver's memory. Therefore, it is correct to speak of "information
interaction" in people, and of "communication" in technical systems. I am
attaching a slide from my lecture at the IS4SI 2025 Summit, which contains
the brilliant thought of the Bulgarian poet Pencho Slaveykov, expressed
more than a century ago.



With respect,

Krassimir


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