[Fis] Contingency signals: AI Information, Decision and Learning

[Jason Hu]

Dear Krassimir,
Regarding "a synthesis integrating autopoiesis with dissipative structures
(Prigozhin), trophic ecology (Lindemann) and agential realism (Barad)," I
invite you to consider my 4DST framework (Four Dimensional System
Thinking). The first three dimensions are Structure, Procedure,
Culture(information, context, cognitive eigenresults, belief), the fourth
is "time" or "self-organization."
Observation/measurement/distinction/perception can be done on the first
three dimensions, and if clear enough and comprehensive enough,
predictions/expectations can be made on the fourth dimension.  If so,
Prigozine was focused on Structure, Lindemann is more or less focused on
Procedure (his energy flow processes), and Barad belongs to the Culture
dimension since his "agential cut" as co-creating phenomena can be seen as
cognition/interaction results/eigenstates.
What do you think?
Best, Jason

On Wed, Dec 3, 2025 at 3:17 AM Krassimir Markov <itheaiss at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear Steve,
> Thank you for the opportunity to read your publications.
> In this regard, I will allow myself a few brief remarks.
> While autopoiesis offers a revolutionary framework for understanding
> self-sustaining systems, systematic research, including your publications,
> reveals critical gaps in accounting for:
> (1) the genesis of recursive systems,
> (2) their termination and death,
> (3) metabolic dependencies and predation,
> (4) the material substratum beneath operations, and
> (5) political transformation.
> Autopoietic theory suffers from a transcendental organizational
> perspective—privileging operations over objects, closure over consumption,
> and modulation over material constraints. Furthermore, your attempts to
> formalize autopoiesis through category theory introduce additional problems
> by ignoring fundamental categorical principles, notably duality.
> I see a possible development in a synthesis integrating autopoiesis with
> dissipative structures (Prigozhin), trophic ecology (Lindemann) and
> agential realism (Barad), allowing a transition to a complete ecology
> capable of dealing with birth, death and metabolic predation.
> Finally, I will note that your formula O=F(O) is the formula of the
> perpetual motion machine, which we all know is impossible.
> With respect,
> Krassimir
>
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