[Fis] Howard Bloom GPT - The potential for science and education

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Dear Plamen, Paul and you Pauvre Materialists,

First Plamen, what is the soul test?  I have never heard of it. Do cats pass the soul test? Ants? The problem is that these creatures may have their own way of being conscious of the world. Does that mean they have souls?

Second, I agree with you Plamen if you are getting at the idea of being in the world, being conscious of it. Representing the possibilities in at once, as a Kantian whole. 

This very experience of the world seems to me NOT reducible to gravity or any other combination of physical-chemical things in our 4D world. 

Related to this is the question: Is consciousness a functional state as people like Mike Levin seem to assume? If so then embodied LLMs could well be conscious.  In fact it trivializes consciousness in that almost any reactive system could be “functionally” conscious. 

But if there are souls that enter and leave bodies then consciousness is NOT a functional state. I mean functional state in the sense of Hillary Putnam, the philosopher. 

If there are souls and they exist and have causal agency when in a body, then they would appear to be in a higher dimensional space that encompasses and interacts with our world.  By the way our world is not 4-dimensional but multidimensional if we are free agents and/or quantum mechanics holds. 

Recall our discussion where I questioned the irreality of possibility states, that they have real existence and the question was: Do they fit in our world? 

So intuitively the very notion of possibility spaces seem related to the question of consciousness and the existence of souls. 

-Eric Werner

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On Apr 6, 2025, at 6:38 PM, Paul Suni <paul.p.suni at gmail.com> wrote: Sent from my iPad
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