[Fis] Workshop– NeurIPS 2024

Fri Oct 11 16:18:32 CEST 2024

Happy to see Marcus restarting the exchange of ideas in the present forum.

As to the Immanent Meaning of symbols, these are defined as the deviations
between the context of the symbols and the central elements.

You find the central elements by rotating the variants of a+b=c. Those that
don't move are the central ones.

There are at least 3 central elements. The concept meaning has in itself
various interpretations, in dependence of which central elements are
designed to be the most central.

Nice question.

Marcus Abundis <55mrcs at gmail.com> schrieb am Fr., 11. Okt. 2024, 15:46:

> Hi Emanuel,
>
> Thanks for your note. NO, I honestly do not know the reason for:
> < The reading left me unsatisfied (as usual, and you know my reasons for
> that).>
>
> Going way back to IS4IS 2015 in Vienna — I thought there was GREAT
> similarity in our basic views and approaches.
> But when I suggest this to you, you oddly INSIST there are no similarities
> at all!
> I have never been able to understand this — AND when I press you for
> details you (again, as usual)
> refer me to some unrelated paper ('I am sure this will make it clear.'),
> or make some vague suggestion like 'I am sure you already know why . . .'
> This time you offer?!?!?! 'The Myth about Alzheimer’s Disease Incurability
> is Wrong: Don’t Miss the Opportunity to Change your Mind'
>
> If YOU are actually interested in the lack of traffic on FIS, THIS is an
> EXCELLENT opportunity to explain yourself IN DETAIL . . .
> in relation to 'An A Priori Theory of Meaning'.
> I would be VERY interested in hearing your SPECIFIC thoughts — and I
> expect others would appreciate this too!!!
> Regards,
> M!
>
>
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> On Fri, Oct 11, 2024 at 2:50 PM Emanuel Diamant <emanl.245 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Dear Marcus,
>>
>>
>>
>> With great interest I have read your paper.
>>
>> The reading left me unsatisfied (as usual, and you know my reasons for
>> that).
>>
>> From my side, I can propose to you (and to all other FIS readers) my
>> recently published article
>>
>> DOI 10.47363/JMHC/2024(6)268
>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://dx.doi.org/10.47363/JMHC/2024(6)268__;!!D9dNQwwGXtA!U5bQcpvZazJXePV3i1Q8jriWXyAZrInDt8sKiGNFCtVDUEeFC1twsS2dDENqY-0CYFyKBLL9BVIugKIT$>
>>
>> (not for a discussion, only for information purposes).
>>
>>
>>
>> What is going on with FIS discussions? For a long time I don ‘t receive
>> any letters or notes from them.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best wishes to the Jewish New Year,
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Emanuel.
>>
>>
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> *From:* Fis <fis-bounces at listas.unizar.es> *On Behalf Of *Marcus Abundis
>> *Sent:* Friday, 11 October 2024 12:54
>> *To:* fis <fis at listas.unizar.es>
>> *Subject:* [Fis] Workshop– NeurIPS 2024
>>
>>
>>
>> Greetings all,
>>
>>
>>
>> A quick note to let those interested know that I had a paper accepted for
>> presentation at an AI workshop (Open World Agents) at NeurIPS 2024. Of
>> course, this is not the same as being accepted to The Conference itself –
>> but it is still perhaps of interest to FIS as it continues/expands the
>> 'theory of meaning' track I presented at IS4SI 2021.
>>
>>
>>
>> I am still waiting on notification to a second NeurIPS workshop I applied
>> to (Foundation Models for Science).
>>
>>
>>
>> The link for a PDF of this paper is:
>>
>>
>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://drive.google.com/file/d/11r5LHrzAV2wAPXAPbEMxO58GuTR48hdP/view?usp=share_link__;!!D9dNQwwGXtA!WrF4qdVdptitnaGgMX-BRv4F4GsdZcW9_mPe5Un4zxmiZ_l3U8vCRTgf1op9_89y8FUTyvrOzwN2vjSkn0Q6aultVLs$ 
>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/drive.google.com/file/d/11r5LHrzAV2wAPXAPbEMxO58GuTR48hdP/view?usp=share_link__;!!D9dNQwwGXtA!WkXPs2hbNzmydvfNrJcocyBp67ilfgFmOQGP0Y9yko8YO7HSpevpk5BQj1m39_jTcaPpUX0ngRlOfmeZ$>
>>
>>
>>
>> The ABSTRACT:
>>
>> This paper explores a key issue in information theory seen by Claude
>> Shannon and Warren Weaver as a missing “theory of meaning”. It names
>> structural fundaments to cover the matter. Varied informatic roles are
>> first noted as likely elements for a general theory of meaning. It next
>> deconstructs Shannon Signal Entropy in a priori terms to mark the signal
>> literacy (contiguous logarithmic Subject Object primitives) innate to
>> ‘scientific’ notions of information. It therein initiates general
>> intelligence ‘first principles’ alongside a dualist-triune (2-3) pattern.
>> This study thus tops today’s vague sense of meaningful ‘agent intelligence’
>> in artificial intelligence, framed herein via an Entropic/informatic
>> continuum of serially varied ‘functional degrees of freedom’; all as a
>> mildly-modified view of Signal Entropy.
>>
>>
>>
>> *Marcus Abundis*
>>
>> about.me/marcus.abundis
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>>
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