[Fis] Information as Sequencing and Difference

[Karl Javorszky]

Lovely.

You happen to be the first adept of the cult of the 12 books.
Do tell for the record, your experiment with 12 random objects, how many
cycles have been found in your setup?

Would you like to get a chaperone (like Vergil for Dante) as you discover
the world of periodic arithmetic? Not that I would be an official explainer
on matters related to place, amount, prediction, types of matches between
places and amounts, but the years of playing with order cause me to believe
that my comments on the matter can save efforts in inventing (recognition
of) simple but useful patterns found in the process of ordering and keeping
it in order.

If so, you can learn really basic and fundamental techniques fast, and
don't have to do trial and error detours that this person already has
investigated.

So, how many cycles, which lengths?


Katherine Peil Kauffman <ktpeil at outlook.com> schrieb am Sa., 15. Juni 2024,
21:57:

> Dear Karl (et al),
> As one who often receives the fish eyes when trying to communicate such a
> divergent view of emotion, I can feel your frustration. But rest assured
> that my claim to want to understand information is legitimate. Indeed, I
> have spent a good deal of time researching everyone’s backstories to better
> understand the models on offer. Yours in particular (given the generous
> depth and quality of your responses), and I conducted the book sorting
> experiment for the third time yesterday just in case I was missing
> something.
>
> You have helped me realize the importance of permutational sorting and
> sequencing in of process of The Tao, with “sequencing” occurring as the
> timeless Domain 0 counterpart of the entropic Arrow of Time in Domain 1.
> You have also emphasized the foundational goal in AI engineering of
> minimizing the difference between between prediction (expected) and actual
> (observed) outcomes. I find these insights central to the hows and whys of
> living systems with emotional sentience - which are far more than
> prediction machines. (Some of my thoughts on this:
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0079610715001169__;!!D9dNQwwGXtA!Sg8rAh4BkyEWWsC092VLjV88StJq6VhWf8rBX00nNusObCrXshLHc48SNmGD6DoMssW7fRHEAeyVG966uR1hmtSQXos$  )
> and here:
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://books.google.com/books?hl=en&lr=&id=mvjIDwAAQBAJ&oi=fnd&pg=PA144&dq=emotional*sentience*and*fractal*epistemology*2017*Katherine*Peil*Kauffman&ots=IQVlGLJsve&sig=xbv4olyNLKzqL9FiUIDfo4MBJ-Q*v=onepage&q&f=fals__;KysrKysrKysj!!D9dNQwwGXtA!Sg8rAh4BkyEWWsC092VLjV88StJq6VhWf8rBX00nNusObCrXshLHc48SNmGD6DoMssW7fRHEAeyVG966uR1h2mBg4Qg$ 
> e
>
> I also find your offerings consonant with the work of Don Hoffman and Mike
> Levin, particularly in terms of “decorative permutations” which link
> repetition and symmetry with visual aesthetics.
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://medium.com/@ilakk2023/208-unveiling-beauty-in-order-a-mathematical-exploration-of-decorative-permutations-0d135cf3d706__;!!D9dNQwwGXtA!Sg8rAh4BkyEWWsC092VLjV88StJq6VhWf8rBX00nNusObCrXshLHc48SNmGD6DoMssW7fRHEAeyVG966uR1hXILBnqU$ 
>
> Hoffman offers a "Markovian Dynamics of Consciousness" based upon the
> maths of decorative permutations that comes close to the evaluative and
> identity components of my Tao story, enhanced by Levin’s stuff on “the
> self". There’s a great conversation here between them here:
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsy8p435DqM__;!!D9dNQwwGXtA!Sg8rAh4BkyEWWsC092VLjV88StJq6VhWf8rBX00nNusObCrXshLHc48SNmGD6DoMssW7fRHEAeyVG966uR1h9XHBZJw$ 
>
> So once again, I thank you, and hope to be corrected if I’ve
> misrepresented your wisdom in any way. Oh, as and for getting pictures on
> FIS? Pedro had to “twinkle them” to make that happen. This is why I only
> did that once, to ease any additional burden. But indeed, pictures speak
> volumes.
>
> Fondly,
> Kung Fu Kate
>
>
>
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