[Fis] Fwd: Abstract--Electronic Symbiosis—Lessons from Bacteria

Tue Feb 23 23:14:14 CET 2021

Thank you, Pedro.

Indeed the key question for me right now - after sharing these earlier
thoughts - is to which extent science and our free will to explore the
riddles of the universe are "influenced"  and "moderated", yes - even
"censured" and "re-directed",  by some external interested forces in modern
days, much more than, say 100 years ago, by religious groups and movements?
In other words, I question the current state of "initial and boundary
conditions" for developing a free thought and will in human beings from the
current active generation (20-40 years old) as being reshaped, or even
recreated - without considering myself as being a QAnon or another
conspiracy group fan - under the direction of some external forces - not
necessarily aliens - that we currently ignore. We should not forget that a
great deal of the active memory of our human society died out untimely with
unfinished jobs to transfer their knowledge to the next generations,
because of SARS-nCOV-2. What do you think about this? What is coming next?

Best,

Plamen

On Tue, Feb 23, 2021 at 2:21 PM Pedro C. Marijuan <pcmarijuan.iacs at aragon.es>
wrote:

> Dear All,
> Below a couple of late messages from Plamen exchanged offline (due to the
> list limitation).
> In my view, the relationship of technology with utopianism appears quite
> frequently, and it is not unsound, but science needs to be far more
> careful.
> From utopia to dystopia there are so very few steps...
>
> --Pedro
>
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> Asunto: Re: [covid-19-therapy] Fwd: [Fis] Abstract--Electronic
> Symbiosis—Lessons from Bacteria
> Fecha: Fri, 19 Feb 2021 13:52:18 +0100
> De: Dr. Plamen L. Simeonov <plamen.l.simeonov at gmail.com>
> <plamen.l.simeonov at gmail.com>
> Para: Covid-19 Therapy <covid-19-therapy at googlegroups.com>
> <covid-19-therapy at googlegroups.com>
> CC: Howard Bloom <howlbloom at aol.com> <howlbloom at aol.com>, Pedro C.
> Marijuan <pcmarijuan.iacs at aragon.es> <pcmarijuan.iacs at aragon.es>
>
> Thank you, Otto. I was in the mood to write this short appeal today. When
> I joined the telco and media industry away from the self-pity academia in
> the mid 1990ies, I felt inspired by the fall of the Berlin Wall and the
> hope that the dreams of John Lennon and Martin Luther King are about to
> become reality next. I was not motivated by some weird opportunity to chase
> "likes" by sharing narcissistic experiences with sensation greedy fellows
> around the world in the social media as this became normal today. I told
> myself that the next step for humanity is to end all wars and go into deep
> space. The only problem I realized at that time was the lack of
> communication, which made us feel so damned alone in the universe. That's
> why I fully embraced the development of the internet and all related
> technologies that would help us to go out in the wild cosmos and civilize
> it one day. I never thought that the same kind of technology will be used
> to fabricate fake news, selfish social networks, depressive  movies and
> oppressive news that serve corporations to create fears and inflate their
> profits. Just watch who was the winner of the COVID-19 pandemic according
> to the stock exchange numbers in 2020. What a waste of mind energy! It is
> time to change something, away from these deep psychosocial crises we
> experience today.
>
> Yours,
>
> Plamen
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> On Friday, February 19, 2021, 11:19:28 AM GMT+1, Dr. Plamen L. Simeonov <
> plamen.l.simeonov at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Yes, John.
> I have seen the movie. Despite all these dark and apocalyptic visions of
> the future which became popular in the past 40 years, I recall another
> earlier era of sci-fi which was also challenging but more positively
> motivated by the spirit of adventure and the eagerness to explore the
> riddles of the universe. Its driver was the Apollo space program and the
> gentlemen's competition in space between the Russians and the Americans
> which has motivated millions of people around the world including myself
> despite the Cold War. At that time the world was at the edge of
> self-destruction (1983, the Pershing II program in West Germany) and there
> was still more hope than now with COVID-19 and the US elections, which are
> about to become a permanent topic.
>
> Yesterday, with the launch of the new NASA Perseverance rover on Mars and
> the transmission of the images from the red planet I was able to feel again
> a bit of this positive spirit of hope and excitement in some of my peers
> who were not distracted by the everyday news about gruesome political wars
> that  media overexpose to the public and charges the minds with negative
> energy and expectations. Where is the science in the news? I do hope that a
> new era of curiosity and adventure is opening now. Maybe this is the beam
> of light - Perseverance - that Howard meant in his former post at FIS about
> the exciting new worlds and paradises that wait to be explored by us, human
> beings. Because this is our destiny, as Carl Sagan earlier and Michio Kaku
> recently said. We need thousands and millions of scientists, teachers and
> professors like them to push this planet in a different direction.
> Politicians and ((a)social) media are not the heroes of our time. Go to the
> NASA page and see what amazing technology we have to change the world for
> the good. We should be able to address this quality of man. May Howard
> Bloom's prophecy become true. What we think is becoming reality. Changing
> the way of thinking is essential for the survival of an intelligent species.
>
> Have a nice day.
>
> Best!
>
> Plamen
>
> I put this email in this forum, because Pedro is limiting the number of
> contributions to FIS, which is OK.
>
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