[Fis] whether this useful simulation is information, data or something else?

Pedro C. Marijuan pcmarijuan.iacs at aragon.es
Tue Mar 31 14:05:54 CEST 2020


Dear List,

Thanks a lot to Plamen. On a personal basis my estimation is that this 
epidemics affects 10 times more people than the official figures. Almost 
everyone of my sociotype (family, friends, acquaintances) knows someone 
who has got infected. For 90% it is a mild or regular flu. But for 10% 
it is serious, and for 2% (mostly old people, say beyond 70) it is very 
serious and often fatal. Therefore, the terrible mortality of the 
official figures has to be reinterpreted, I think. In Spain the big 
problem is that hospitals themselves did become focus of contagions--due 
to a pathetic lack of prevision by the Government and its subsequent 
inaction or chaotic action. Our health system is excellent for universal 
attention, but has been awful for prevention (due to poor management & 
excessively ideological orientation of the leftist Government--putting 
it politely).

What preoccupates me a lot (well, one cannot help but  have quite a bit 
of personal & family anxiety) is the post-epidemics situation. This is 
going to be a big life-style changer--so many repercussions in the short 
and medium term... freedoms & democratic rights, autocracies on the 
rise, public debt crisis worldwide, industry crisis, services crises, 
global paralysis of tourism & flights, plus so many cultural habits at 
the stake. With the aftermath, we will be welcome to a very different 
world.  Gloom & Doom? Maybe not necessarily--hopefully! But very, very 
different. Who knows whether this can be a positive rehearsal for the 
impending ecological crisis and the radical transformations it demands.

As you know I put life in the very center of information, and vice 
versa.So the tremendous world-attention focus to this epidemics.

Best--Pedro
PS. By the way, Plamen, you have sent too big a message to the list. Can 
you please put the (presumed) attachment in some web address?

El 30/03/2020 a las 18:13, Dr. Plamen L. Simeonov escribió:
> e Krassimir, Annette and All FISers,
>
> since Gordana also presented this simulation in another forum, a 
> Google group on crazy ideas about COVID-19 therapy I moderate, may I 
> suggest you and other FISers who are interested in a more focused 
> discussion on finding an original strategy to combat the virus to join 
> our group. You can contact me and I will include you in the group 
> which is https://groups.google.com/d/forum/covid-19-therapy
> Pedro, how are you doing in this disturbing times? I put you in this 
> group, but you can unsubscribe at anytime of course.
> With best wishes,
>
> Plamen
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> On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 5:11 AM Krassimir Markov <markov at foibg.com 
> <mailto:markov at foibg.com>> wrote:
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>     Dear Annette and FIS Colleagues,
>     The following question I had sent to Gordana offline due to the
>     FIS limit of number of posts per week.
>     I see it is still actual, so I resend it now.
>     In line with the FIS discussion, I would kindly ask you to tell,
>     in your view, whether this useful simulation is information, data
>     or something else?
>     Be healthy and in good spirit!
>     Friendly greetings
>     Krassimir
>     *From:* annette.grathoff at is4si.org
>     <mailto:annette.grathoff at is4si.org>
>     *Sent:* Monday, March 30, 2020 12:46 PM
>     *To:* gordana.dodig-crnkovic at mdh.se
>     <mailto:gordana.dodig-crnkovic at mdh.se> ; fis at listas.unizar.es
>     <mailto:fis at listas.unizar.es>
>     *Subject:* Re: [Fis] Excellent simulation
>
>     Dear colleagues,
>
>     Grant Sanderson (3blue1brown) did it again. Please do not tell me
>     you never heard of him and his excellent YouTube science-knowledge
>     visualization videos! He changed the interest of thousands of
>     people for abstract mathematical ideas, making them concrete and
>     more tangible by his excellent simulation videos. He originally
>     came from the Khan Academy team as you can read here:
>     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3Blue1Brown.
>
>     This I say as Annette Grathoff, not as the General secretary: My
>     personal opinion is that every scientist interested in informing
>     curious people and raising interest in scientific knowledge should
>     know his videos. This is how information about important concepts
>     is enabled to spread many times faster than when relying solely on
>     the classical ways. It does science well to spread channels like
>     his, after you (not only) scientifically approved of the content.
>
>     Best wishes and stay healthy,
>
>     Annette
>
>     Gordana Dodig-Crnkovic wrote on 29.03.2020 12:17 (GMT +02:00):
>
>         Dear colleagues,
>
>         Please have a look at this excellent simulation:
>
>         https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxAaO2rsdIs&feature=youtu.be
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>         which makes me think about how powerful thinking tools
>         that computation and information/data really offer.
>
>         Stay safe and take care,
>
>         Gordana
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Pedro C. Marijuán
Grupo de Bioinformación / Bioinformation Group

pcmarijuan.iacs at aragon.es
http://sites.google.com/site/pedrocmarijuan/
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