[Fis] The Exchange 'Value' of Information: Communication

[Christian Bourret]

CHRISTIAN BOURRET 
Professeur des Universités en Sciences de l'Information et de la Communication 
Institut Francilien d'Ingénierie des Services (IFIS) 
Directeur Adjoint Equipe de recherche DICEN IDF et IFIS 


T : 01 60 95 78 01 - F : 01 60 95 78 33 
Campus du Val d'Europe Bâtiment Erasme - Bureau 117 
christian.bourret at u-pem.fr 




UPEM - Université Paris-Est Marne-la-Vallée 
CITÉ DESCARTES - 5 BOULEVARD DESCARTES - CHAMPS-SUR-MARNE 
77454 MARNE-LA-VALLÉE CEDEX 2 - [ http://www.u-pem.fr/ | WWW.U-PEM.FR ] 


De: "Francesco Rizzo" <13francesco.rizzo at gmail.com> 
À: "Joseph Brenner" <joe.brenner at bluewin.ch> 
Cc: "fis" <fis at listas.unizar.es> 
Envoyé: Lundi 20 Janvier 2020 06:08:09 
Objet: Re: [Fis] The Exchange 'Value' of Information: Communication 

Cari Joseph, Pedro, Deacon e tanti altri, 





"the value of the information exchanged between two or more individuals" (Joseph) e la definizione di Informazione, dis-informazione e tras-informazione (solo quest'ultimo anni fa è stato al centro di un intenso scambio di mail nella FIS) sono fondamentali nella NUOVA ECONOMIA che ho proposto in quasi sessant'anni di ricerca scientifica disseminata in 40 libri e centinaia di articoli. Ma è come se questo non fosse mai avvenuto. E dire che in proposito Vi ho inviato tanti messaggi degni di essere tenuti in considerazione. Non è accaduto perchè scrivo in italiano? Non ci credo. In ogni caso, pazienza! Vi ringrazio sempre per quel che siete e quel che fate con sincera gratitudine. 

Un saluto augurale. 

Francesco. 



Il giorno dom 19 gen 2020 alle ore 09:19 Joseph Brenner < [ mailto:joe.brenner at bluewin.ch | joe.brenner at bluewin.ch ] > ha scritto: 





Dear All, 



The original intent of my Lecture was to discuss the structure of information as well as disinformation. Some recent postings have suggested to me that there is much science to do in the area of the positive value of true information as opposed to its absence in dis- and mis-information. In particular, I am interested in the value of the information exchanged between two or more individuals. 



Again, we are immediately confronted with issues, carefully studied by Loet, of communication, and the difficulty of separating properties of information and communication. For example, a dis-informer must choose a information channel to disseminate his/her disinformation. 



I would just say now that I think the value of a good exchange of information between people is moral/emotional, and one cannot get into these issues without reference to psychology and ethics. In other terms, we are here in an area of science to which standard logical and computational approaches cannot apply, but in which we wish to be as rigorous as possible. Any suggestions which are also relevant to the major objective of the New Year Lecture will be included there, with thanks. 



By copy of this note, I am asking Pedro to please tell us if this area has been debated or not within FIS. 



Best, 



Joseph 
_______________________________________________ 
Fis mailing list 
[ mailto:Fis at listas.unizar.es | Fis at listas.unizar.es ] 
[ http://listas.unizar.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fis | http://listas.unizar.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fis ] 
---------- 
INFORMACIÓN SOBRE PROTECCIÓN DE DATOS DE CARÁCTER PERSONAL 

Ud. recibe este correo por pertenecer a una lista de correo gestionada por la Universidad de Zaragoza. 
Puede encontrar toda la información sobre como tratamos sus datos en el siguiente enlace: [ https://sicuz.unizar.es/informacion-sobre-proteccion-de-datos-de-caracter-personal-en-listas | https://sicuz.unizar.es/informacion-sobre-proteccion-de-datos-de-caracter-personal-en-listas ] 
Recuerde que si está suscrito a una lista voluntaria Ud. puede darse de baja desde la propia aplicación en el momento en que lo desee. 
[ http://listas.unizar.es/ | http://listas.unizar.es ] 
---------- 




_______________________________________________ 
Fis mailing list 
Fis at listas.unizar.es 
http://listas.unizar.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fis 
---------- 
INFORMACI�N SOBRE PROTECCI�N DE DATOS DE CAR�CTER PERSONAL 

Ud. recibe este correo por pertenecer a una lista de correo gestionada por la Universidad de Zaragoza. 
Puede encontrar toda la informaci�n sobre como tratamos sus datos en el siguiente enlace: https://sicuz.unizar.es/informacion-sobre-proteccion-de-datos-de-caracter-personal-en-listas 
Recuerde que si est� suscrito a una lista voluntaria Ud. puede darse de baja desde la propia aplicaci�n en el momento en que lo desee. 
http://listas.unizar.es 
---------- 
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listas.unizar.es/pipermail/fis/attachments/20200120/2b4238f2/attachment-0001.html>