[Fis] Meta-observer?

Loet Leydesdorff loet at leydesdorff.net
Fri Mar 2 08:53:18 CET 2018


Dear Pedro, Koichiro, and colleagues,

At the level of observers, indeed, a hierarchy may be involved for the 
change of focus (although this is empirical  and not necessarily the 
case). The communication, however, as a system different from the 
communicators may contain mechanisms such as "translation" which make it 
possible to redirect.

Best,
Loet

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Loet Leydesdorff

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------ Original Message ------
From: "Koichiro Matsuno" <CXQ02365 at nifty.com>
To: fis at listas.unizar.es
Sent: 3/2/2018 6:41:12 AM
Subject: Re: [Fis] Meta-observer?

>On 28 Feb 2018 at 10:34 PM, PedroClemente Marijuan Fernadez wrote:
>
>A sort of "attention" capable of fast and furious displacements of the 
>focus...  helas, this means a meta-observer or an observer-in-command.
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>    Pedro, it is of course one thing to conceive of a hierarchy of 
>observers for our own sake, but quite another to figure out what the 
>concrete participants such as molecules are doing out there. They are 
>doing what would seem appropriate for them to do without minding what 
>we are observing. At issue must be how something looking like a chain 
>of command could happen to emerge without presuming such a chain in the 
>beginning. Prerequisite to its emergence would be the well-being of 
>each participant taken care of locally, as a replenishable inevitable. 
>That is an issue of the origins of life. The impending agenda is on 
>something general universal as an object, and yet concrete particular 
>enough in process. The richness resides within the concreteness down to 
>the bottom.
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>    Apropos, the communications among the local participants differ from 
>computation despite the seemingly concrete outlook of the latter. 
>Computation upon the notion of time as the linear sequence of the now 
>points is not available to the local participants because of the lack 
>of the physical means for guaranteeing the sharing of the same 
>now-point among themselves.
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>    Koichiro Matsuno
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