[Fis] Further Discussion . . .

[Pedro C. Marijuan]

Dear Marcus and Colleagues,

Thanks for your interest. The Chengdu's Conference represented for me an 
occasion to return to my beginnings, in the 80's, when I prepared a PhD 
Thesis: "Natural Intelligence: On the evolution of biological 
information processing". It was mostly following a top down approach. 
But in some of the discussions outdoors of the conference (a suggestion 
for the next one in Shanghai: plenary discussion sessions should also be 
organized) I realized that biomolecular things have changed quite a lot. 
One could go nowadays the other way around: from the 
molecular-informational organization of cellular life, to intelligence 
of the cell's behavior withing the environment. The life cycle es 
essential. It provides the source of "meaning" (as I have often argued 
in discussions in the list) but it is also the reference for 
"intelligence". Communicating with the environment and self-producing by 
means of the environmental affordances have to be smoothly organized so 
that the stages of the life cycle may be advanced, and that the 
"problems" arising from the internal or the external may be adequately 
solved. It means signalling and self-modifying in front of the 
open-ended environmental problems, sensing and acting coherently... It 
strangely connects with the notion of human "story" and the 
communication cycle in the humanities. Relating intelligence to goal 
accomplishment or to an architecture of goals as usually done in 
computational realms implies that the real life course (or the 
surrogate) is reduced to a very narrow segment. True intelligence 
evaporates.
These were some of my brute reflections that I have to keep musing 
around (I saw interesting repercussions for cellular signaling 
"narratives" too). Maybe this is also a good opportunity for other 
parties of that conference to expostulate their own impressions --very 
exciting presentations both from Chinese and Western colleagues there.

Thanks again,
--Pedro

El 08/02/2017 a las 14:14, Marcus Abundis escribió:
> > In next weeks some further discussion might be started, but at the 
> time being, the slot is empty (any ideas?)<
>
> Hi Pedro,
>
> For my part I would appreciate a chance to hear more about the 
> thoughts you have been developing (even if they are very rough) as 
> related to the talk you gave in China last summer.
>
> Alternatively, further thoughts on Gordana's talk would be nice to hear.
>
> For both of these talks, you both shared your presentation stack . . . 
> but there was so much information in both of those talks, it would be 
> nice to have some of "unpacked."
>
> Marcus
>
>
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Pedro C. Marijuán
Grupo de Bioinformación / Bioinformation Group
Instituto Aragonés de Ciencias de la Salud
Centro de Investigación Biomédica de Aragón (CIBA)
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