[Fis] It-from-Bit and information interpretation of QM

[Loet Leydesdorff]

Koichiro: “In order to make them decidable or meaningful, some qualifier must definitely be needed. A popular example of such a qualifier is a subjective observer.”

 

“A difference that makes a difference” for a qualifier, thus requires specification of: 

1.      The first difference; 

2.      The second difference; 

3.      The qualifier (e.g., the observer).

 

The first difference can be measured using Shannon-type information, since a probability distribution can be considered as a set of (first-order) differences. Brillouin tried to specify the second difference as a ΔH. ΔH can also be negative (“negentropy”). But how does one proceed to the measurement?

 

Best, 

Loet

 

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Loet Leydesdorff 

Emeritus University of Amsterdam
Amsterdam School of Communication Research (ASCoR)

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From: Fis [mailto:fis-bounces at listas.unizar.es] On Behalf Of Koichiro Matsuno
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2015 9:04 AM
To: 'John Collier'; 'fis'
Subject: Re: [Fis] It-from-Bit and information interpretation of QM

 

At 4:00 AM 06/27/2015, John Collier wrote:

 

I also see no reason that Bateson’s difference that makes a difference needs to involve meaning at either end.

 

[KM] Right.  The phrase saying “a difference that makes a difference” must be a prototypical example of second-order logic in that the difference appearing both in the subject and predicate can accept quantification. Most statements framed in second-order logic  are not decidable. In order to make them decidable or meaningful, some qualifier must definitely be needed. A popular example of such a qualifier is a subjective observer. However, the point is that the subjective observer is not limited to Alice or Bob in the QBist parlance. 

 

   Koichiro

 

 

 

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