[Fis] Information Foundation of the Act--F.Flores & L.deMarcos
Pedro C. Marijuan
pcmarijuan.iacs at aragon.es
Fri Jul 24 14:28:22 CEST 2015
Hola Fernando & Luis,
Many thanks for your contribution, quite interesting to read. I really
second the previous comments from Joseph, Gyuri and Jerry. I also see a
few other points:
--The relationship between entropy and culture taken as order is rather
risky. I think there is a misunderstanding of entropy on which I
strongly recommend the work of Arieh Ben-Naim (2013, entropy and the
second law), quite a lot of fuzzy mysticism has been produced around.
That the artificial work reduces human information to the simple world
of a cyborg is dubious (how many informational decisions made by the
cavemen versus the urbanite?) The respective emotional rewards of their
choices are another matter.
--About the complexity of human acts everyday activities apparently are
"conceptually simple", quite deceptively--they become the most difficult
ones to be performed by robots versus the complex but easy industrial
operations. These everyday activities look easy because of a previous
learning process only. For instance in my trip to Vienna, after arrival
I got lost three times while taking the airport bus, the tram, the
metro, etc. Terrible experience that forced myself into a lot of
informational (wrong) choices and explorations. However next day I was
just the master (in spanish "el puto amo"). The tremendous initial
complexity had been assimilated and my transportation acts were now very
easy. Not including these crucial aspects on the relative complexity,
and how it is transformed when navigated by the sophisticated "deep
learning" strategies of our nervous system is not OK in my opinion.
--When computing the informational value of human acts, the number of
bit attributed to fingers, hands, limps, body, etc. look rather
arbitrary. The same for the law of information conservation as presently
formulated. (How do this dovetail with the cyclic nature of human life?
There is "information generation" and non-conservation, no?)
--When analyzing technologies the procedure followed does not look very
clear, in particular regarding the invariability of the total level of
information value. However, the final two pages on the relationship
between informational value and price look quite interesting and in my
opinion they are the best section of the paper.
Overall the attempt is quite brave and full of suggestions...
Best--Pedro
Pedro C. Marijuan wrote:
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Pedro C. Marijuán
Grupo de Bioinformación / Bioinformation Group
Instituto Aragonés de Ciencias de la Salud
Centro de Investigación Biomédica de Aragón (CIBA)
Avda. San Juan Bosco, 13, planta X
50009 Zaragoza, Spain
Tfno. +34 976 71 3526 (& 6818)
pcmarijuan.iacs at aragon.es
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