[Fis] Physical Informatics… (J.Brenner)

[PEDRO CLEMENTE MARIJUAN FERNANDEZ]

----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph Brenner<mailto:joe.brenner at bluewin.ch>
To: Igor Gurevich<mailto:iggurevich at gmail.com> ; Pedro C. Marijuan<mailto:pcmarijuan.iacs at aragon.es> ; fis<mailto:fis at listas.unizar.es>
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 8:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Fis] Physical Informatics contains fundamental results which impossible to get only by physical methods

Dear Igor, Dear Gerhard and Colleagues,

In Igor's summary of his recent work, I read the following absoutely critical statement:
" It is shown that the expansion of the Universe is the source of information formation, wherein a variety of physical processes in an expanding Universe provide information formation." I take this as meaning that the expansion of the Universe as such does not produce information.

Gerhard's formulation is slightly different (my paraphrase):
"The first assymetry in energy distribution, following the singularity, is the source of information formation".

My question is, therefore, how best to combine these insights. For example, we may say that the variety of physical processes are all the consequence of, and subsequently reflect, a first assymetry.

It is also interesting to note that the approaches of both Igor and Gerhard imply the emergence of information through the interactional impact (informational interactions) of fundamental forces on particles, extended by Gerhard to somewhat higher levels of organization (life) than Igor.

I look forward to further discussion of these fundamental issues.

Sincerely,

Joseph
----- Original Message -----
From: Igor Gurevich<mailto:iggurevich at gmail.com>
To: Pedro C. Marijuan<mailto:pcmarijuan.iacs at aragon.es> ; fis<mailto:fis at listas.unizar.es>
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 9:47 AM
Subject: [Fis] Physical Informatics contains fundamental results which impossible to get only by physical methods

Dear Pedro C. Marijuan,
Dear colleagues,
I send you "The main results of Gurevich I.M. (Physical Informatics contains fundamental results which impossible to get only by physical methods)"
and "Igor Gurevich: Main publications in English" .
With best wishes.
Igor Gurevich

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