<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">Hi Rainer,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">"<span style="background-color:rgb(231,242,255)">A</span> nice memory of when we were newborn babies feeding from the breasts" is not sexuality, IMHO. I <span class="Asgive ng">mentioned</span> the word <span class="Q6ibn ng">"food" only.</span> </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">Therefore, your linking my words to Freud <span class="Asgive ng">does not hold.</span> 😉 </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">In oriental culture, we have <span class="Asgive ng">"an</span> hierarchy of needs" different from Maslow's. "Food" is the first layer. "Sex" is the second. Here is my version:</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large"><span class="Asgive ng">1-Drink-Food(survival);</span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">2-Male-Female(sex);</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">3-Sound-Color(art);</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">4-Dog-Horse(hunting);</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">5-Wave-watching(history-society);</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">6-Tide-playing(participation in politics & businesses);</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">7-Speaking of Tao(authoring);</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large"><span class="Q6ibn ng">8-Reaching Understanding(Communicatics)</span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">My initial message to you was on level 1, not level 2. Now I'm trying on level 8 with you.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large"> </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">Best - Jason</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Feb 18, 2026 at 3:43 AM Rainer Feistel (IOW) <<a href="mailto:rainer.feistel@iow.de">rainer.feistel@iow.de</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><u></u>
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<p>Hi Jason,<br>
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I believe your argument had already been presented in detail by
Siegmund Freud,<br>
e.g. in Freud, S. (1920): Drei Abhandlungen zur Sexualtheorie. F.
Deuticke, Leipzig,<br>
<a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.psychanalyse.lu__;!!D9dNQwwGXtA!UCAQlCfAZoGVVS75T5WDifTG-1Olms3YdrQ425oAFJHDt6c0CYgpA4dmJY3Pt2B3UXtMcM-7_e_71911bqUBBC-O8B_Z$" target="_blank">www.psychanalyse.lu</a> (there should likely be an English edition,
too).<br>
Freud argues that breastfeeding is a sexual experience for
sucklings, accompanied by sexual arousal.<br>
<br>
I do not at all share Freud's hypothesis.<br>
If so, why don't have all mammals sexy breasts, cats and dogs,
pics and cows, and especially chimps?<br>
In fact, they all reduce their mammary glands after weaning, just
in contrast to humans. Why?<br>
Do boys/men find their mother's breasts sexually attractive and do
they always attempt to squeeze and suck those?<br>
Do mothers typically present their breasts to their sons with
sexual intentions?<br>
Could this regularly be observed or often personally be
experienced, in retrospect?<br>
<br>
On Nov 5, 1953, in a phone call with his friend Johanna Fantova in
Priceton, Albert Einstein concluded that<br>
"Freud was a bright man, but a lot of his theory I consider as
rubbish"<br>
I share Einstein's opinion regarding Freud's Oedipus complex.<br>
<br>
Perhaps it is American prudery that prohibits breastfeeding in the
public as a sexual offence.<br>
In my view, breastfeeding is natural childcare rather than sexual
exhibitionism.</p>
<p>Stastically, the milk production of women is uncorrelated with
the size of their adipose breasts.</p>
<p>As far as I may imagine, most women do not want to miss their
breasts as female symbols.<br>
Losing them for medical reasons is usually a hard decision if
there is no other way. Some even<br>
prefer to risk their life rather than living without breasts. But
this is just my personal impression.</p>
<p>Rainer</p>
<div>Am 18.02.2026 um 02:14 schrieb Jason
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<div style="font-size:large">Hi Rainer,</div>
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<div style="font-size:large">I just
browsed the recent FIS discussions triggered by your
interesting ideas. I'm <span>puzzled about</span>
why nobody so far has suggested a different but simpler
hypothesis about man's love of female breasts: </div>
<div style="font-size:large"><br>
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<div style="font-size:large">Could it be
just a nice memory of when we were newborn babies feeding from
the breasts? <span>Would that nice, warm,
satisfying feeling be memorized in the pool of </span>our
instinct after growing up? The preference for the bigger
breasts also becomes explainable - it simply means more <span>milk</span> food. 😍 For adult males
searching for a good mate, larger breasts are informational
symbols of "my baby can be well fed," therefore, a desirable
plus in addition to everything else. </div>
<div style="font-size:large"><br>
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<div style="font-size:large">This
hypothesis, however, needs to be checked from the women's
perspective. I don't know if women like breasts as much as men
do. But there might be two more differentiating variables:
Women might have "extra inconvenience" of having to carry such
fat mass (e.g., when having to run fast), and men might have
some "envy of not having those nice body parts." </div>
<div style="font-size:large"><br>
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<div style="font-size:large">Just my two
cents of food for thought.</div>
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<div style="font-size:large">Regards -
Jason</div>
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<p>Caro Francesco,</p>
<p>My Italian is only rudimentary. Is this what you ask for?</p>
<p>Dear Pedro & the experts of art:<br>
<br>
You wrote that "a great movie ... made me laugh". <br>
<br>
Can we agree that films are a specific form of art?<br>
Films represent something else (namely, e.g., certain
humans in certain situations)<br>
than they physically are themselves (namely, strings of
photos or of computer bits).<br>
Given that, can we agree that films are symbols, even if
complex ones?<br>
May we also agree that even art in general consists of
specific kinds of symbols?<br>
<br>
Art is produced by humans with the intention to be
received by (mostly) other humans.<br>
Can we agree that art is symbolic communication between
humans?<br>
And that the artist's intended effect of art at the
receiver is inducing emotions?<br>
In the body, emotions are carried by symbols, either
certain chemicals, nerve pulses<br>
or cellular excitation states.<br>
<br>
So, is art a specific kind of symbolic information
transfer between humans?<br>
<br>
By the way, also sex symbols such as bosoms have the
purpose of inducing emotions.<br>
<br>
Rainer</p>
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2026 alle ore 21:34
Pedro C. Marijuán
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<div>Dear Rainer
& FIS
Colleagues,</div>
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<div>First, I
would like to
join our Chinese
Colleagues in
the Celebration
of their New
Year. The year
of the Horse: <span lang="en"><span><b>新年快乐
(Xīnnián
kuàilè)</b> </span></span></div>
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<div>And then I
would like to ad
some fun to the
provocative
hypothesis of
Rainer on the
evolution of
female breast.
It comes from a
great movie:</div>
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<p>"... this
scene from <a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://alligator-tunny-3mj4.squarespace.com/config/It's*20a*20Mad*20Mad*20Mad*20Mad*20World__;JSUlJSUl!!D9dNQwwGXtA!WFVu5YtDhZzbe0e_7mOB2Pt7JnW7MHh2IhYnE6n_cPg0KuCsp1MfjahpRzbtgplyPcZUTLkte8H-PEOkRlkp8unyo9Od$" target="_blank">It's a Mad Mad Mad Mad World</a> featuring
Milton Berle
(J. Russell
Finch) and
Terry-Thomas
(J. Algernon
Hawthorne) -
it made me
laugh and I
ended up
watching the
rest of the
film.</p>
<p><strong>J.
Algernon
Hawthorne</strong>:
I must say
that if I had
the grievous
misfortune to
be a citizen
of this
benighted
country, I
should be the
most hesitant
of offering
any criticism
whatever of
any other. </p>
<p><strong>J.
Russell Finch</strong>:
Wait a minute,
are you
knocking this
country? Are
you saying
something
against
America? </p>
<p><strong>J.
Algernon
Hawthorne</strong>:
Against it? I
should be
positively
astounded to
hear anything
that could be
said FOR it.
Why the whole
bloody place
is the most
unspeakable
matriarchy in
the whole
history of
civilization!
Look at
yourself! The
way your wife
and her
strumpet of a
mother push
you through
the hoop!</p>
<p>As far as I
can see,
American men
have been
totally
emasculated-
they're like
slaves! They
die like flies
from coronary
thrombosis
while their
women sit
under
hairdryers
eating
chocolates
&
arranging for
every 2nd
Tuesday to be
some sort of
Mother's Day!</p>
<p>And this
positively
infantile
preoccupation
with bosoms.
In all time in
this wretched
Godforsaken
country, the
one thing that
has appalled
me most of all
this this
preposterous
preoccupation
with bosoms.</p>
<p>Don't you
realize they
have become
the dominant
theme in
American
culture: in
literature,
advertising
and all fields
of
entertainment
and
everything.
I'll wager you
anything you
like that if
American women
stopped
wearing
brassieres,
your whole
national
economy would
collapse
overnight."</p>
<p>The two
characters are
in a car,
maintaining
this bizarre
dialogue while
driving in the
quest for a
lost booty.
Curiously in a
previous scene
there is
another
amazing
dialogue about
all the
possible
partitions of
that booty
among the
different
groups
involved in
the quest.
Watch it! </p>
<p>Best wishes,</p>
<p>--Pedro </p>
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<div>El 16/02/2026
a las 11:21,
Rainer Feistel
(IOW) escribió:<br>
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<p>Dear
Krassimir,</p>
<p>Yes, thanks,
I fully
agree. </p>
<p>It is evident
that e.g.
viruses inject
their own
genetic
information
into<br>
the host cell
which then
starts
producing more
viruses ...</p>
<p>Genetic
information, I
think, is the
first form of
symbolic
information,
so<br>
that the
origin of life
is also the
origin of
symbols.<br>
<a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://doi.org/10.3390/sym16121611__;!!D9dNQwwGXtA!X718m_IsUTUPwzkksIp2P-qufhu6Y2ekUobXTt2dAG9yd4DvwJ2-H1uS-e8vs3XjNuUi6RlGTDVqIYC7t-01kz2dqqU$" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://doi.org/10.3390/sym16121611</a></p>
<p>Rainer</p>
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23:19 schrieb
Krassimir
Markov:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Dear
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Your ideas
that you have
been working
on lately are
interesting
and could find
wider support
among
specialists.<br>
For me, as a
specialist in
the field of
information
studies, this
is another
good example
of information
interaction.<br>
It should be
specially
noted that
verbal
information
interaction is
a small part
of all
possible ones
and is only
between
people.<br>
However, in
nature, forms
of information
interaction
are diverse
and occur at
all levels of
living matter
- starting
from the
lowest,
perhaps cells
(I have no
examples of a
lower level!)
and continuing
to the social
level between
people.<br>
With respect,<br>
Krassimir
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