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    <p>Hi Jason,<br>
      <br>
      While I am not an expert of Freud, and don't intend to become one,
      I believe that Freud did not really distinguish<br>
      between the pleasure of drinking and that of sexual arousal. For
      example:<br>
      <br>
      Freud (1920: p.36):<br>
      "Die erste und lebenswichtigste Tätigkeit des Kindes, das Saugen
      an der Mutterbrust (oder an ihren Surrogaten), muß es bereits mit
      dieser Lust vertraut gemacht haben. Wir würden sagen, die Lippen
      des Kindes haben sich benommen wie eine erogene Zone, und die
      Reizung durch den warmen Milchstrom war wohl die Ursache der
      Lustempfindung."<br>
      <br>
      Let me try a translation:<br>
      "The first activity of the child, and the most relevant for
      survival, the sucking at the mother's breast (or its surrogates)
      must have acquainted it with this delight [of satisfaction]. We
      would say that the child's lips have behaved like an erogenous
      zone, and the stimulation by the warm stream of milk was likely
      the cause of the sensation of delight."<br>
      <br>
      If I understand your argument correctly, you link the child's
      (asexual!) pleasure of drinking to the later sexual interest of
      men in breasts and nipples. However, soon after weaning the
      infants develop lactose intolerance which strongly prevents them
      from the pleasure of drinking mother's milk. It is unclear to me
      how that interest in breasts, based on drinking milk as a baby,
      should return after sexual maturation without any interest in
      drinking milk from the girlfriend's breast. And, also girls do
      drink milk when being babies, so why don't they develop a similar
      sexual interest in inspecting breasts as boys have?<br>
      <br>
      Anyway, your hierarchy of needs is nice. Thanks for that. Hope we
      manage level 8.<br>
      <br>
      Rainer</p>
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          <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">Hi Rainer,</div>
          <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">"<span
              style="background-color:rgb(231,242,255)">A</span> nice
            memory of when we were newborn babies feeding from the
            breasts" is not sexuality, IMHO. I <span class="Asgive ng">mentioned</span>
            the word <span class="Q6ibn ng">"food" only.</span> </div>
          <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">Therefore,
            your linking my words to Freud <span class="Asgive ng">does
              not hold.</span> 😉 </div>
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          <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">In oriental
            culture, we have <span class="Asgive ng">"an</span>
            hierarchy of needs" different from Maslow's. "Food" is the
            first layer. "Sex" is the second. Here is my version:</div>
          <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large"><span
              class="Asgive ng">1-Drink-Food(survival);</span></div>
          <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">2-Male-Female(sex);</div>
          <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">3-Sound-Color(art);</div>
          <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">4-Dog-Horse(hunting);</div>
          <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">5-Wave-watching(history-society);</div>
          <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">6-Tide-playing(participation
            in politics & businesses);</div>
          <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">7-Speaking
            of Tao(authoring);</div>
          <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large"><span
              class="Q6ibn ng">8-Reaching Understanding(Communicatics)</span></div>
          <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">My initial
            message to you was on level 1, not level 2. Now I'm trying
            on level 8 with you.</div>
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          <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">Best -
            Jason</div>
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          <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Feb 18, 2026 at
            3:43 AM Rainer Feistel (IOW) <<a
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              <p>Hi Jason,<br>
                <br>
                I believe your argument had already been presented in
                detail by Siegmund Freud,<br>
                e.g. in Freud, S. (1920): Drei Abhandlungen zur
                Sexualtheorie. F. Deuticke, Leipzig,<br>
                <a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.psychanalyse.lu__;!!D9dNQwwGXtA!UhlNA6rvuC1-sJH711lTW3-XpCYIJ98u0tj7rX0KkP7sTKbd09Do4R2Luu3VPXCqGH3VC60jgltTGWAywQ3qHFeDp6Y$" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">www.psychanalyse.lu</a> (there
                should likely be an English edition, too).<br>
                Freud argues that breastfeeding is a sexual experience
                for sucklings, accompanied by sexual arousal.<br>
                <br>
                I do not at all share Freud's hypothesis.<br>
                If so, why don't have all mammals sexy breasts, cats and
                dogs, pics and cows, and especially chimps?<br>
                In fact, they all reduce their mammary glands after
                weaning, just in contrast to humans. Why?<br>
                Do boys/men find their mother's breasts sexually
                attractive and do they always attempt to squeeze and
                suck those?<br>
                Do mothers typically present their breasts to their sons
                with sexual intentions?<br>
                Could this regularly be observed or often personally be
                experienced, in retrospect?<br>
                <br>
                On Nov 5, 1953, in a phone call with his friend Johanna
                Fantova in Priceton, Albert Einstein concluded that<br>
                "Freud was a bright man, but a lot of his theory I
                consider as rubbish"<br>
                I share Einstein's opinion regarding Freud's Oedipus
                complex.<br>
                <br>
                Perhaps it is American prudery that prohibits
                breastfeeding in the public as a sexual offence.<br>
                In my view, breastfeeding is natural childcare rather
                than sexual exhibitionism.</p>
              <p>Stastically, the milk production of women is
                uncorrelated with the size of their adipose breasts.</p>
              <p>As far as I may imagine, most women do not want to miss
                their breasts as female symbols.<br>
                Losing them for medical reasons is usually a hard
                decision if there is no other way. Some even<br>
                prefer to risk their life rather than living without
                breasts. But this is just my personal impression.</p>
              <p>Rainer</p>
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                  <div style="font-size:large">I just browsed the recent
                    FIS discussions triggered by your interesting
                    ideas.  I'm <span>puzzled about</span> why nobody
                    so far has suggested a different but simpler
                    hypothesis about man's love of female breasts: </div>
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                  <div style="font-size:large">Could it be just a nice
                    memory of when we were newborn babies feeding from
                    the breasts? <span>Would that nice, warm,
                      satisfying feeling be memorized in the pool of </span>our
                    instinct after growing up? The preference for the
                    bigger breasts also becomes explainable - it simply
                    means more <span>milk</span> food. 😍  For adult
                    males searching for a good mate, larger breasts are
                    informational symbols of "my baby can be well fed,"
                    therefore, a desirable plus in addition to
                    everything else. </div>
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                  <div style="font-size:large">This hypothesis, however,
                    needs to be checked from the women's perspective. I
                    don't know if women like breasts as much as men do.
                    But there might be two more differentiating
                    variables: Women might have "extra inconvenience" of
                    having to carry such fat mass (e.g., when having to
                    run fast), and men might have some "envy of not
                    having those nice body parts." </div>
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                  <div style="font-size:large">Just my two cents of food
                    for thought.</div>
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                  <div style="font-size:large">Regards - Jason</div>
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                  <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Feb 17, 2026
                    at 6:49 AM Rainer Feistel (IOW) <<a
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                      <p>Caro Francesco,</p>
                      <p>My Italian is only rudimentary. Is this what
                        you ask for?</p>
                      <p>Dear Pedro & the experts of art:<br>
                        <br>
                        You wrote that "a great movie ... made me
                        laugh". <br>
                        <br>
                        Can we agree that films are a specific form of
                        art?<br>
                        Films represent something else (namely, e.g.,
                        certain humans in certain situations)<br>
                        than they physically are themselves (namely,
                        strings of photos or of computer bits).<br>
                        Given that, can we agree that films are symbols,
                        even if complex ones?<br>
                        May we also agree that even art in general
                        consists of specific kinds of symbols?<br>
                        <br>
                        Art is produced by humans with the intention to
                        be received by (mostly) other humans.<br>
                        Can we agree that art is symbolic communication
                        between humans?<br>
                        And that the artist's intended effect of art at
                        the receiver is inducing emotions?<br>
                        In the body, emotions are carried by symbols,
                        either certain chemicals, nerve pulses<br>
                        or cellular excitation states.<br>
                        <br>
                        So, is art a specific kind of symbolic
                        information transfer between humans?<br>
                        <br>
                        By the way, also sex symbols such as bosoms have
                        the purpose of inducing emotions.<br>
                        <br>
                        Rainer</p>
                      <div>Am 17.02.2026 um 13:32 schrieb Francesco
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Ke hoʻouna aku nei au iā ʻoe i kahi ʻaoʻao mai Allied, Conciliar, and Theological Economy: Light of Love or Love of Light (Aracne, Roma, 2007) ma kēia kumuhana.
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                                                          <div dir="ltr"
class="gmail_attr">Il giorno lun 16 feb 2026 alle ore 21:34 Pedro C.
                                                          Marijuán <<a
href="mailto:pedroc.marijuan@gmail.com" target="_blank"
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                                                          ha scritto:<br>
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                                                          <div>Dear
                                                          Rainer &
                                                          FIS
                                                          Colleagues,</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>First, I
                                                          would like to
                                                          join our
                                                          Chinese
                                                          Colleagues in
                                                          the
                                                          Celebration of
                                                          their New
                                                          Year. The year
                                                          of the Horse: <span
                                                          lang="en"><span><b>新年快乐
                                                          (Xīnnián
                                                          kuàilè)</b> </span></span></div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>And then
                                                          I would like
                                                          to ad some fun
                                                          to the
                                                          provocative
                                                          hypothesis of
                                                          Rainer on the
                                                          evolution of
                                                          female breast.
                                                          It comes from
                                                          a great movie:</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p>"... this
                                                          scene from <a
href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://alligator-tunny-3mj4.squarespace.com/config/It's*20a*20Mad*20Mad*20Mad*20Mad*20World__;JSUlJSUl!!D9dNQwwGXtA!WFVu5YtDhZzbe0e_7mOB2Pt7JnW7MHh2IhYnE6n_cPg0KuCsp1MfjahpRzbtgplyPcZUTLkte8H-PEOkRlkp8unyo9Od$"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">It's a Mad Mad Mad Mad World</a> featuring
                                                          Milton Berle
                                                          (J. Russell
                                                          Finch) and
                                                          Terry-Thomas
                                                          (J. Algernon
                                                          Hawthorne) -
                                                          it made me
                                                          laugh and I
                                                          ended up
                                                          watching the
                                                          rest of the
                                                          film.</p>
                                                          <p><strong>J.
                                                          Algernon
                                                          Hawthorne</strong>:
                                                          I must say
                                                          that if I had
                                                          the grievous
                                                          misfortune to
                                                          be a citizen
                                                          of this
                                                          benighted
                                                          country, I
                                                          should be the
                                                          most hesitant
                                                          of offering
                                                          any criticism
                                                          whatever of
                                                          any other. </p>
                                                          <p><strong>J.
                                                          Russell Finch</strong>:
                                                          Wait a minute,
                                                          are you
                                                          knocking this
                                                          country? Are
                                                          you saying
                                                          something
                                                          against
                                                          America? </p>
                                                          <p><strong>J.
                                                          Algernon
                                                          Hawthorne</strong>:
                                                          Against it? I
                                                          should be
                                                          positively
                                                          astounded to
                                                          hear anything
                                                          that could be
                                                          said FOR it.
                                                          Why the whole
                                                          bloody place
                                                          is the most
                                                          unspeakable
                                                          matriarchy in
                                                          the whole
                                                          history of
                                                          civilization!
                                                          Look at
                                                          yourself! The
                                                          way your wife
                                                          and her
                                                          strumpet of a
                                                          mother push
                                                          you through
                                                          the hoop!</p>
                                                          <p>As far as I
                                                          can see,
                                                          American men
                                                          have been
                                                          totally
                                                          emasculated-
                                                          they're like
                                                          slaves! They
                                                          die like flies
                                                          from coronary
                                                          thrombosis
                                                          while their
                                                          women sit
                                                          under
                                                          hairdryers
                                                          eating
                                                          chocolates
                                                          &
                                                          arranging for
                                                          every 2nd
                                                          Tuesday to be
                                                          some sort of
                                                          Mother's Day!</p>
                                                          <p>And this
                                                          positively
                                                          infantile
                                                          preoccupation
                                                          with bosoms.
                                                          In all time in
                                                          this wretched
                                                          Godforsaken
                                                          country, the
                                                          one thing that
                                                          has appalled
                                                          me most of all
                                                          this this
                                                          preposterous
                                                          preoccupation
                                                          with bosoms.</p>
                                                          <p>Don't you
                                                          realize they
                                                          have become
                                                          the dominant
                                                          theme in
                                                          American
                                                          culture: in
                                                          literature,
                                                          advertising
                                                          and all fields
                                                          of
                                                          entertainment
                                                          and
                                                          everything.
                                                          I'll wager you
                                                          anything you
                                                          like that if
                                                          American women
                                                          stopped
                                                          wearing
                                                          brassieres,
                                                          your whole
                                                          national
                                                          economy would
                                                          collapse
                                                          overnight."</p>
                                                          <p>The two
                                                          characters are
                                                          in a car,
                                                          maintaining
                                                          this bizarre
                                                          dialogue while
                                                          driving in the
                                                          quest for a
                                                          lost booty.
                                                          Curiously in a
                                                          previous scene
                                                          there is
                                                          another
                                                          amazing
                                                          dialogue about
                                                          all the
                                                          possible
                                                          partitions of
                                                          that booty
                                                          among the
                                                          different
                                                          groups
                                                          involved in
                                                          the quest.
                                                          Watch it!  </p>
                                                          <p>Best
                                                          wishes,</p>
                                                          <p>--Pedro </p>
                                                          <br>
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                                                          <div>El
                                                          16/02/2026 a
                                                          las 11:21,
                                                          Rainer Feistel
                                                          (IOW)
                                                          escribió:<br>
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                                                          <p>Dear
                                                          Krassimir,</p>
                                                          <p>Yes,
                                                          thanks, I
                                                          fully agree. </p>
                                                          <p>It is
                                                          evident that
                                                          e.g. viruses
                                                          inject their
                                                          own genetic
                                                          information
                                                          into<br>
                                                          the host cell
                                                          which then
                                                          starts
                                                          producing more
                                                          viruses ...</p>
                                                          <p>Genetic
                                                          information, I
                                                          think, is the
                                                          first form of
                                                          symbolic
                                                          information,
                                                          so<br>
                                                          that the
                                                          origin of life
                                                          is also the
                                                          origin of
                                                          symbols.<br>
                                                          <a
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                                                          <p>Rainer</p>
                                                          <div>Am
                                                          15.02.2026 um
                                                          23:19 schrieb
                                                          Krassimir
                                                          Markov:<br>
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                                                          <div dir="ltr">Dear
                                                          Rainer,<br>
                                                          Your ideas
                                                          that you have
                                                          been working
                                                          on lately are
                                                          interesting
                                                          and could find
                                                          wider support
                                                          among
                                                          specialists.<br>
                                                          For me, as a
                                                          specialist in
                                                          the field of
                                                          information
                                                          studies, this
                                                          is another
                                                          good example
                                                          of information
                                                          interaction.<br>
                                                          It should be
                                                          specially
                                                          noted that
                                                          verbal
                                                          information
                                                          interaction is
                                                          a small part
                                                          of all
                                                          possible ones
                                                          and is only
                                                          between
                                                          people.<br>
                                                          However, in
                                                          nature, forms
                                                          of information
                                                          interaction
                                                          are diverse
                                                          and occur at
                                                          all levels of
                                                          living matter
                                                          - starting
                                                          from the
                                                          lowest,
                                                          perhaps cells
                                                          (I have no
                                                          examples of a
                                                          lower level!)
                                                          and continuing
                                                          to the social
                                                          level between
                                                          people.<br>
                                                          With respect,<br>
                                                          Krassimir
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Dr. rer. nat. habil. Rainer Feistel
Physicist (emeritus)
PS Gustav Hertz Prize, Berlin 1981
CITAC Best Paper Award, Paris 2011
IAPWS Honorary Fellow, London 2013
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LS Daniel Ernst Jablonski Medal, Berlin 2021
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Recuerde que si está suscrito a una lista voluntaria Ud. puede darse de baja desde la propia aplicación en el momento en que lo desee.
<a href="http://listas.unizar.es" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">http://listas.unizar.es</a>
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_______________________________________________<br>
                                                          Fis mailing
                                                          list<br>
                                                          <a
href="mailto:Fis@listas.unizar.es" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">Fis@listas.unizar.es</a><br>
                                                          <a
href="http://listas.unizar.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fis"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">http://listas.unizar.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fis</a><br>
                                                          ----------<br>
                                                          INFORMACIÓN
                                                          SOBRE
                                                          PROTECCIÓN DE
                                                          DATOS DE
                                                          CARÁCTER
                                                          PERSONAL<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Ud. recibe
                                                          este correo
                                                          por pertenecer
                                                          a una lista de
                                                          correo
                                                          gestionada por
                                                          la Universidad
                                                          de Zaragoza.<br>
                                                          Puede
                                                          encontrar toda
                                                          la información
                                                          sobre como
                                                          tratamos sus
                                                          datos en el
                                                          siguiente
                                                          enlace: <a
href="https://sicuz.unizar.es/informacion-sobre-proteccion-de-datos-de-caracter-personal-en-listas"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://sicuz.unizar.es/informacion-sobre-proteccion-de-datos-de-caracter-personal-en-listas</a><br>
                                                          Recuerde que
                                                          si está
                                                          suscrito a una
                                                          lista
                                                          voluntaria Ud.
                                                          puede darse de
                                                          baja desde la
                                                          propia
                                                          aplicación en
                                                          el momento en
                                                          que lo desee.<br>
                                                          <a
href="http://listas.unizar.es" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">http://listas.unizar.es</a><br>
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                                          </div>
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                        <pre>_______________________________________________
Fis mailing list
<a href="mailto:Fis@listas.unizar.es" target="_blank"
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                        class="moz-txt-link-freetext">Fis@listas.unizar.es</a>
<a href="http://listas.unizar.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fis"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                        class="moz-txt-link-freetext">http://listas.unizar.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fis</a>
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INFORMACIÓN SOBRE PROTECCIÓN DE DATOS DE CARÁCTER PERSONAL

Ud. recibe este correo por pertenecer a una lista de correo gestionada por la Universidad de Zaragoza.
Puede encontrar toda la información sobre como tratamos sus datos en el siguiente enlace: <a
href="https://sicuz.unizar.es/informacion-sobre-proteccion-de-datos-de-caracter-personal-en-listas"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                        class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://sicuz.unizar.es/informacion-sobre-proteccion-de-datos-de-caracter-personal-en-listas</a>
Recuerde que si está suscrito a una lista voluntaria Ud. puede darse de baja desde la propia aplicación en el momento en que lo desee.
<a href="http://listas.unizar.es" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                        class="moz-txt-link-freetext">http://listas.unizar.es</a>
----------
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                      <pre cols="72">-- 
Note: New Email Address: <a href="mailto:rainer.feistel@iow.de"
                      target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                      class="moz-txt-link-freetext">rainer.feistel@iow.de</a>
Dr. rer. nat. habil. Rainer Feistel
Physicist (emeritus)
PS Gustav Hertz Prize, Berlin 1981
CITAC Best Paper Award, Paris 2011
IAPWS Honorary Fellow, London 2013
BIPM Metrologia Highlight Articles, Paris 2016
EGU Fridtjof Nansen Medal, Vienna 2018
LS Daniel Ernst Jablonski Medal, Berlin 2021
IAPWS Gibbs Award, Boulder, Co., 2024</pre>
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                    _______________________________________________<br>
                    Fis mailing list<br>
                    <a href="mailto:Fis@listas.unizar.es"
                      target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                      class="moz-txt-link-freetext">Fis@listas.unizar.es</a><br>
                    <a
href="http://listas.unizar.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fis"
                      rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                      class="moz-txt-link-freetext">http://listas.unizar.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fis</a><br>
                    ----------<br>
                    INFORMACIÓN SOBRE PROTECCIÓN DE DATOS DE CARÁCTER
                    PERSONAL<br>
                    <br>
                    Ud. recibe este correo por pertenecer a una lista de
                    correo gestionada por la Universidad de Zaragoza.<br>
                    Puede encontrar toda la información sobre como
                    tratamos sus datos en el siguiente enlace: <a
href="https://sicuz.unizar.es/informacion-sobre-proteccion-de-datos-de-caracter-personal-en-listas"
                      rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                      class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://sicuz.unizar.es/informacion-sobre-proteccion-de-datos-de-caracter-personal-en-listas</a><br>
                    Recuerde que si está suscrito a una lista voluntaria
                    Ud. puede darse de baja desde la propia aplicación
                    en el momento en que lo desee.<br>
                    <a href="http://listas.unizar.es" rel="noreferrer"
                      target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                      class="moz-txt-link-freetext">http://listas.unizar.es</a><br>
                    ----------<br>
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                </div>
              </blockquote>
              <pre cols="72">-- 
Note: New Email Address: <a href="mailto:rainer.feistel@iow.de"
              target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
              class="moz-txt-link-freetext">rainer.feistel@iow.de</a>
Dr. rer. nat. habil. Rainer Feistel
Physicist (emeritus)
PS Gustav Hertz Prize, Berlin 1981
CITAC Best Paper Award, Paris 2011
IAPWS Honorary Fellow, London 2013
BIPM Metrologia Highlight Articles, Paris 2016
EGU Fridtjof Nansen Medal, Vienna 2018
LS Daniel Ernst Jablonski Medal, Berlin 2021
IAPWS Gibbs Award, Boulder, Co., 2024</pre>
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    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">-- 
Note: New Email Address: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:rainer.feistel@iow.de">rainer.feistel@iow.de</a>
Dr. rer. nat. habil. Rainer Feistel
Physicist (emeritus)
PS Gustav Hertz Prize, Berlin 1981
CITAC Best Paper Award, Paris 2011
IAPWS Honorary Fellow, London 2013
BIPM Metrologia Highlight Articles, Paris 2016
EGU Fridtjof Nansen Medal, Vienna 2018
LS Daniel Ernst Jablonski Medal, Berlin 2021
IAPWS Gibbs Award, Boulder, Co., 2024</pre>
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