<div dir="ltr"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm;text-align:justify;text-indent:14.2pt;line-height:normal;background:rgb(248,249,250);font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:rgb(31,31,31)">Dear László,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm;text-align:justify;text-indent:14.2pt;line-height:normal;background:rgb(248,249,250);font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:rgb(31,31,31)">emo-rationality and critical-discerning consciousness
or super-consciousness serve to: -architect or un-discover the economy of the
world or the world of the economy of living beings, humans and animals (at
least for now, excluding plants, although they are subjects of
phyto-sociology); -conserve-enhance and not pollute the inorganic world;
-conceive an economic Theo-human-ology or theo-human-logical economy. God
became human so that human beings could become God [Aracne, Rome, 2024].</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm;text-align:justify;text-indent:14.2pt;line-height:normal;background:rgb(248,249,250);font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:rgb(31,31,31)">Your “human spark” is a beautiful and valuable
invention. Thank you.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm;text-align:justify;text-indent:14.2pt;line-height:normal;background:rgb(248,249,250);font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:rgb(31,31,31)">Francesco. </span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm;text-align:justify;text-indent:14.2pt;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Caro László, </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm;text-align:justify;text-indent:14.2pt;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">emo-ra-zionalità e coscienza o
super-coscienza critico-discernente servono a: -architettare o s-coprire l’<b>economia
del mondo</b> o il <b>mondo dell’economia</b> degli esseri viventi umani e
animali (almeno per ora vegetali esclusi, sebbene siano soggetti di
fito-sociologia); conservare-valorizzare e non inquinare il mondo inorganico; -concepire
una <i>Teo-umano-logia economica o economia teo-umano-logica. Dio sìè fatto
umano affinché l’essere umano possa diventare Dio</i> [Aracne, Roma, 2024].</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm;text-align:justify;text-indent:14.2pt;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">La tua “scintilla umana” è una bella e pregevole
invenzione. Grazie.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm;text-align:justify;text-indent:14.2pt;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Francesco. </span></p></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Il giorno mer 21 gen 2026 alle ore 01:17 Csáji László Koppány <<a href="mailto:csaji.koppany@gmail.com">csaji.koppany@gmail.com</a>> ha scritto:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div style="margin-top:0.5em;margin-bottom:0.5em">Dear John, Marcus, Louis, Eric, Mark, and all FiS colleagues,</div><div style="margin-top:0.5em;margin-bottom:0.5em">We have witnessed excellent argumentations that were both inspiring and thought provking. I am grateful to participate.</div><div style="margin-top:0.5em;margin-bottom:0.5em">I circulate around an easy question after all these considerations: how the cellars' cognitive functions, self-cognition, and consciousness relate to each other, and how "emotion" as a factor links to them. Theoretically, all living creatures differ from crystals, stones, fluid, or aeriform materials by having a kind of "decision-making"--an ability of "willing" that gives them a "plus". </div><div style="margin-top:0.5em;margin-bottom:0.5em">Nevertheless, this ability is not an art form; it is just a differentia specifica between living ones and those that exist without a decision-making gift (capability). Art seems to be a step further, which elevates the material environment to a level that could be called "super-consciousness", or something like that. Super-consciousness empowers us not only to shape the world but to imagine it in another way, and create "new realities"--in a way that would not be possible physically.</div><div style="margin-top:0.5em;margin-bottom:0.5em">This kind of imagination--that exceeds the animals' "rationality" (causability?), creativity, and communicative acts...</div><div style="margin-top:0.5em;margin-bottom:0.5em">Can we specify--and how can we?--such a "plus" (I called it a "human spark" in my initial paper), or is this evolutionary thesis just a delusion?</div><div style="margin-top:0.5em;margin-bottom:0.5em">Cheers,</div><div> László </div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Mark Johnson <<a href="mailto:johnsonmwj1@gmail.com" target="_blank">johnsonmwj1@gmail.com</a>> ezt írta (időpont: 2026. jan. 19., H, 10:05):<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Yes! Thank you Joe!</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, 19 Jan 2026 at 08:33, <<a href="mailto:joe.brenner@bluewin.ch" target="_blank">joe.brenner@bluewin.ch</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><u></u>
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<span style="font-size:13pt">We have not talked to each other recently, but I follow your work with interest and wanted to applaud the last three lines of your 19.1 note: ... </span><span style="color:rgb(33,33,33);font-family:BlinkMacSystemFont,-apple-system,"Segoe UI",Roboto,Oxygen,Ubuntu,Cantarell,"Fira Sans","Droid Sans","Helvetica Neue",sans-serif;font-size:large">"the 'logic' of the Cosmos. Symbiogenesis is the mechanism by which life has acquired the logic of the Cosmos. In other words there is a continuum from the foundations of the Cosmos to life that is expressed in art."</span>
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<div>Date : 17.01.2026 22:58 CET</div>
<div>Sujet : [Fis] What is Art?</div>
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<span style="font-size:large">Dear FIS, I am of the opinion that art is an expression of consciousness, raising the question Art as to what consciousness is? I fell down this 'rabbit hole' twenty years ago, having performed a series of experiments to understand how and why Parathyroid Hormone-related Protein (PTHrP) is necessary for the formation of alveoli in the lung (<span style="color:rgb(33,33,33);font-family:BlinkMacSystemFont,-apple-system,"Segoe UI",Roboto,Oxygen,Ubuntu,Cantarell,"Fira Sans","Droid Sans","Helvetica Neue",sans-serif">Rubin LP, Kovacs CS, De Paepe ME, Tsai SW, Torday JS, Kronenberg HM. Arrested pulmonary alveolar cytodifferentiation and defective surfactant synthesis in mice missing the gene for parathyroid hormone-related protein. Dev Dyn. 2004 Jun;230(2):278-89)? The duplication of the PTHrP Receptor gene during the water-land transition amplified all of the vertebrate physiologic adaptations to land- lungs, kidneys, skeleton, skin- and since PTHrP is a stretch-sensitive gene, I tested the hypothesis that PTHrP mediated the vertebrate adaptation to the force of gravity. If cells are exposed to zero gravity they lose their differentiated phenotypes (i.e. they devolve), and when yeast are exposed to zero gravity they cannot conduct a calcium flux, meaning that they are unconscious. Moreover, human consciousness has been driven by bipedalism (</span><span style="color:rgb(33,33,33);font-family:BlinkMacSystemFont,-apple-system,"Segoe UI",Roboto,Oxygen,Ubuntu,Cantarell,"Fira Sans","Droid Sans","Helvetica Neue",sans-serif">Torday JS. A central theory of biology. Med Hypotheses. 2015 Jul;85(1):49-57)</span><span style="color:rgb(33,33,33);font-family:BlinkMacSystemFont,-apple-system,"Segoe UI",Roboto,Oxygen,Ubuntu,Cantarell,"Fira Sans","Droid Sans","Helvetica Neue",sans-serif">, freeing our forelimbs for tool making, including language as a tool, and locomotion. Importantly, both language and locomotion are under control by the FoxP2 gene, so that positive selection pressure for FoxP2 would have coordinately stimulated language and locomotion, expressed through our hands and minds as art of all kinds- literature, painting, sculpture, music- in other words, art is a manifestation of our need to communicate with our environment and with other humans.</span></span>
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