<div dir="auto"><div dir="auto">Dear Katherine, Francesco, all,</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">If the discussion about art turns to the question of emotion, then it must further turn to the question of emotion and logic. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I would suggest that the artist's intuition which drives the creative labour to find form and expression is driven by a "logic" which does not work in the way we conventionally reason. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">It's not just that "the heart has its reasons that the reason cannot perceive" (and don't we on FIS give it a good try!🤣). It is that Hume's "secret springs of the universe" work in a way which we cannot fit into a conventional logical scheme but which are coherent, and whose coherence finds expression if the artist does their job well. But our logical schemes (from Aristotle to Spencer Brown, Luhmann, etc) are deficient in apprehending this. There are plenty of artless logical descriptions of art to demonstrate this. We need instead an existential logic...</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">We may respond to the coherence of art with feeling, but the feeling is an epiphenomenon. Scholars like Panksepp and his giggling rats tell us something about the emotion and cognition. But it mistakes the epiphenomenon for the mechanism. The giggles are "assenting" to something. What? Why?</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">If we could imagine at the moment of our death what art and logic and emotion are all about, and thought backwards from that moment to the creative moments of living, we would have a better chance of apprehending an existential logic. What would we see? It's a pattern of assent - a giant "yes!". I don't think that's an emotion. It's more like a movement.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Best wishes</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Mark</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature" dir="auto"><div dir="ltr">Dr. Mark William Johnson<br><div dir="ltr" style="color:rgb(34,34,34)">Faculty of Biology, Medicine and Health</div><div dir="ltr" style="color:rgb(34,34,34)">University of Manchester</div><div dir="ltr" style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><br></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34)">Department of Science Education</div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34)">University of Copenhagen</div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><br></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34)">Department of Eye and Vision Science (honorary)</div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34)">University of Liverpool</div>Phone: 07786 064505<br>Email: <a href="mailto:johnsonmwj1@gmail.com" target="_blank">johnsonmwj1@gmail.com</a><br>Blog: <a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://dailyimprovisation.blogspot.com__;!!D9dNQwwGXtA!VxO1fzqrt33fEhVguijWuQ6yjcfDURMHwUy3bP5IXhO2kWkQAVjGL_4usEK-oK_p9qPMRHPaoq43xubDEWt_1ks$" target="_blank">http://dailyimprovisation.blogspot.com</a></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container" dir="auto"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, 14 Jan 2026, 11:32 Francesco Rizzo, <<a href="mailto:13francesco.rizzo@gmail.com">13francesco.rizzo@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Caro Mark,<div>non v'è niente che non sia causa o effetto di <b>emo-ra-zionalità</b>: quindi non solo <b>emozionalità</b> da sola o <b>razionalità</b> da sola.</div><div>Con grande rispetto.</div><div>Francesco</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Il giorno mer 14 gen 2026 alle ore 10:06 Mark Johnson <<a href="mailto:johnsonmwj1@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">johnsonmwj1@gmail.com</a>> ha scritto:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div><div dir="auto">Dear all,</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I wonder if we confuse art artefacts (and the feelings they produce in us) from the practice that produces them. Art is a labour intensive business. Indeed, it may be the epitome of "work" if Arendt's distinction between work and labour holds up. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">So while I am sympathetic to the relationship between emotion and art (particularly as was beautifully described by Suzanne Langer's view of music as a "picture" of emotion), there remain explanatory problems if we are to distinguish human art from natural processes that produce things which appear beautiful to us.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Animals certainly have emotion, but they don't have artistic practice in the way we do. Even the Lascaux pictures had to have been rehearsed and practiced (maybe using primitive technology - <a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/atxurra-cave-art-experimental-archaeology__;!!D9dNQwwGXtA!R_26-avMi9x22ING-WIFmusZlmTP8hzMs-p1hsl-3hIGe9TyyvxLi2fPYuCRg9ohDzF4BD-dNRsJoKK04zr4JRA$" style="text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(66,133,244)" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/atxurra-cave-art-experimental-archaeology</a>). The skill of execution had to be gained, and that requires focus and determination in learning and intention. While emotion plays a role, as it does in all conscious existence, there is something which drives the acquisition of skill, the construction of form, and the execution of intent which may result in something that evinces an emotion, but whose construction is not as emotional as one might suppose. Indeed emotion can get in the way. It cannot be emotion that drives this acquisition of skill, but insight and foresight into the effects of artistic execution.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">The prerequisite of such insight and foresight perhaps includes shared physiology and a shared environment. But perhaps Bucky Fuller hit on something when discussion his creative process - "I didn't set out to create a geodesic dome. I set out to discover the operative principles of the universe". </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">When Mozart expresses the view that “The whole, though it be long, stands almost finished and complete in my mind… I do not hear it successively, but all at once.” (a letter to Rochlitz in 1789), I suspect that there is a deep connection between Bucky Fuller's observation and Mozart, who must also have known something about the principles of the universe. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">And its important to say, such insight is culturally universal, and unites vastly different artistic practices across different cultures. The fundamental challenge to Paul Suni is that all humans inhabit the same universe. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Best wishes</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Mark</div><div dir="auto"><br style="font-size:12.8px;background-color:rgb(250,248,255)"></div></div><div><br></div><div><div dir="ltr">Dr. Mark William Johnson<br><div dir="ltr" style="color:rgb(34,34,34)">Faculty of Biology, Medicine and Health</div><div dir="ltr" style="color:rgb(34,34,34)">University of Manchester</div><div dir="ltr" style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><br></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34)">Department of Science Education</div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34)">University of Copenhagen</div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><br></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34)">Department of Eye and Vision Science (honorary)</div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34)">University of Liverpool</div>Phone: 07786 064505<br>Email: <a href="mailto:johnsonmwj1@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">johnsonmwj1@gmail.com</a><br>Blog: <a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://dailyimprovisation.blogspot.com__;!!D9dNQwwGXtA!R_26-avMi9x22ING-WIFmusZlmTP8hzMs-p1hsl-3hIGe9TyyvxLi2fPYuCRg9ohDzF4BD-dNRsJoKK0aYQdpIc$" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://dailyimprovisation.blogspot.com</a></div></div></div>
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