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Hi Howard</div>
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And not even an April Fool prank! Apart from also being interested in how you create a personalized version of ChatGPT, I have a few other questions.</div>
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I've also dug fairly deep into ChatGPT and am flabbergasted at the way it has blasted the Turing Test out of the water (its main failing being that it is far too knowledgeable to be an actual human). It is clear that something has emerged that transcends its
basic mechanisms as a token sequence probability machine.</div>
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One thing has stuck me though. The sign of true intelligence is critical evaluation: the ability to disagree and explain why. ChatGPT is remarkably good at following a line of reasoning, and even running ahead in following it through. It can also be seductively
flattering. But I've had trouble in getting it to do what is essential in the scientific process: telling me why I am wrong. I was wondering whether you have managed that?</div>
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Following this through I have a question about BloomGPT as your doppelganger: has it ever given answers that you would disagree with?</div>
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Or has it been sufficiently in-doctrine-ated to always operate within and out of your mind set?</div>
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In other words: is it a clone, a disciple or a colleague?</div>
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<b>Sent:</b> 01 April 2025 11:46<br>
<b>To:</b> Howard Bloom <howlbloom@aol.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Pedro C. Marijuán <pedroc.marijuan@gmail.com>; fis <fis@listas.unizar.es><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fis] cognitive limitations</font>
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<div dir="auto">Howard, actually quite brilliant. It would be good for all scientists to have this . Can you inform us how you did it? I mean the GPT chat
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<div dir="ltr">I have to give you that, Howard. You really know how to promote yourself! Amazing, already have your own ChatBot.
<div>I interacted with it (the one where you don’t have to sign in) and it is very argumentative and seems to reflect you very well. Unfortunately it did not let me save the chat. <br>
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<blockquote type="cite">On Mar 30, 2025, at 3:56 AM, Howard Bloom <howlbloom@aol.com> wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">re interesting ai, here's an early version of an ai doppleganger of me. </div>
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<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">ask it a question. it comes up with some remarkable phrases and some remarkable ideas.</div>
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Lite Version of a Howard Bloomesque GPT for Omnological Reasoning</p>
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<div>The Howard Bloom Institute</div>
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<div>Author of: The Case of the Sexual Cosmos: Everything You Know About Nature is Wrong, coming March, 2025 ("A massive achievement, WOW!" Richard Foreman, MacArthur Genius Award Winner, Officer of the Order of Arts & Letters, France)</div>
<div>Previous books: The Lucifer Principle: A Scientific Expedition Into the Forces of History ("mesmerizing"-The Washington Post), </div>
<div>Global Brain: The Evolution of Mass Mind From The Big Bang to the 21st Century ("reassuring and sobering"-The New Yorker),</div>
<div>The Genius of the Beast: A Radical Re-Vision of Capitalism ("A tremendously enjoyable book." James Fallows, National Correspondent, The Atlantic), </div>
<div>The God Problem: How A Godless Cosmos Creates ("Bloom's argument will rock your world." Barbara Ehrenreich),</div>
<div>How I Accidentally Started the Sixties (“Wow! Whew! Wild! Wonderful!” Timothy Leary),</div>
<div>The Mohammed Code (“A terrifying book…the best book I’ve read on Islam.” David Swindle, PJ Media),</div>
<div>Einstein, Michael Jackson & Me: a Search for Soul in the Power Pits of Rock & Roll ("Amazing. The writing is revelatory." Freddy DeMann, manager of Michael Jackson and Madonna), Best Book of 2020, New York Weekly Times </div>
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<div>Co-founder, The Asian Space Technology Summit</div>
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<div>Founder: International Paleopsychology Project. Founder, Space Development Steering Committee. Member Of Board Of Governors, National Space Society. Founding Board Member: Epic of Evolution Society. Founding Board Member, The Darwin Project.</div>
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<div dir="ltr">Thanks, Lou, for your 'armchair' experiment. My initial reading in the
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<div dir="ltr">such as Lou has done. There is an inconvenient regarding the longish
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<div dir="ltr">Are we in the verge of a brave "New History"?<br>
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<div dir="ltr"> El 28/03/2025 a las 8:18, Louis Kauffman escribió:<br>
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