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<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">re interesting ai, here's an early version of an ai doppleganger of me. </div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">ask it a question. it comes up with some remarkable phrases and some remarkable ideas.</div></div><blockquote style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><div class="ydpf46dc04ayahoo-style-wrap" style="font-family:Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:24px;"><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span><p class="ydp5089f64aMsoBodyText2" align="center" style="text-align:center;mso-outline-level:1;tab-stops:400.5pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;mso-bidi-font-weight:bold"><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://chatgpt.com/g/g-67c5d93357288191875e624ac70e5a9a-howard-bloom-gpt__;!!D9dNQwwGXtA!XyLhkd4__FEG7U8QOvLTXVcX-hBFeTqSHwMBXiMpDuTzvJIZlqtZj7SKDZle6qCa0tQKF03imxNDXQGJhw$" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="enhancr_card_4058653555">ChatGPT - Howard Bloom GPT</a></span></p><div><br></div><div id="ydp7867bcdaenhancr_card_4058653555" class="ydp7867bcdayahoo-link-enhancr-card ydp7867bcdayahoo-link-enhancr-not-allow-cover ydp7867bcdaymail-preserve-class ydp7867bcdaymail-preserve-style" style="max-width: 400px; 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line-height: 19px; margin: 0px 0px 6px; font-family: YahooSans VF, YahooSans, OpenSans VF, OpenSans, Helvetica Neue, Segoe UI, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(29, 34, 40); max-width: 314px;">ChatGPT - Howard Bloom GPT</h2><p class="ydp7867bcdacard-description" style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 16px; margin: 0px; color: rgb(151, 158, 168);">Lite Version of a Howard Bloomesque GPT for Omnological Reasoning</p></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></a><div class="loadingSpinnerContainer" style="position: absolute; top: 0px; width: 100%; height: 100%; display: flex; align-items: center; justify-content: center; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.3);"><div class="D_F F_n gl_C ab_C H_6MGW o_h"><div class="W_6MGW H_6MGW D_X ah_1PEzoz" data-test-id="loading_indicator"><svg class="W_6MGW H_6MGW ah_Zq6hUs" viewBox="0 0 24 24" width="24" height="24"><path class="cdPFi_n cZ13pKbK_Z29WjXl cZ1XO2Ji_dRA c2abBOT_EY cZ1vNhDV_rd cZV8aCd_pI ah_14s73" d="M12,22C6.477,22,2,17.523,2,12S6.477,2,12,2"></path><path class="cdPFi_n cZ13pKbK_Z29WjXl cZ1XO2Ji_dRA c2abBOT_EY cZ1vNhDV_rd cZV8aCd_pI ah_14s73" d="M12,2c5.523,0,10,4.477,10,10s-4.477,10-10,10"></path></svg></div></div></div></div><div><br></div><p></p></span></div></div></blockquote><div>and</div><div><blockquote style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span><p class="ydpe1498679MsoBodyText2" align="center" style="text-align:center;mso-outline-level:1;tab-stops:400.5pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;mso-bidi-font-weight:bold"><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://chatgpt.com/g/g-67e49acf64988191b0c63c7f91bdbacf-the-omnologist-lab__;!!D9dNQwwGXtA!XyLhkd4__FEG7U8QOvLTXVcX-hBFeTqSHwMBXiMpDuTzvJIZlqtZj7SKDZle6qCa0tQKF03imxMIEXpIXw$" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="enhancr_card_4227045148">ChatGPT - The Omnologist Lab</a></span></p><div><br></div><div id="ydp94bae2a0enhancr_card_4227045148" class="ydp94bae2a0yahoo-link-enhancr-card ydp94bae2a0yahoo-link-enhancr-not-allow-cover ydp94bae2a0ymail-preserve-class ydp94bae2a0ymail-preserve-style" style="max-width:400px;font-family:YahooSans VF, YahooSans, OpenSans VF, OpenSans, Helvetica Neue, Segoe UI, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif" data-url="https://chatgpt.com/g/g-67e49acf64988191b0c63c7f91bdbacf-the-omnologist-lab" data-type="YENHANCER" data-size="MEDIUM" contenteditable="false"><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://chatgpt.com/g/g-67e49acf64988191b0c63c7f91bdbacf-the-omnologist-lab__;!!D9dNQwwGXtA!XyLhkd4__FEG7U8QOvLTXVcX-hBFeTqSHwMBXiMpDuTzvJIZlqtZj7SKDZle6qCa0tQKF03imxMIEXpIXw$" style="text-decoration:none !important;color:#000 !important" class="ydp94bae2a0yahoo-enhancr-cardlink" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><table border="0" class="ydp94bae2a0card-wrapper ydp94bae2a0yahoo-ignore-table" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="max-width:400px"><tbody><tr><td width="400"><table border="0" class="ydp94bae2a0card ydp94bae2a0yahoo-ignore-table" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%" style="max-width:400px;border-width:1px;border-style:solid;border-color:rgb(224, 228, 233);border-radius:2px"><tbody><tr><td><table border="0" class="ydp94bae2a0card-info ydp94bae2a0yahoo-ignore-table" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="background:#fff;position:relative;z-index:2;width:100%;max-width:400px;border-radius:0 0 2px 2px;border-top:1px solid rgb(224, 228, 233)"><tbody><tr><td style="background-color:#ffffff;padding:16px 0 16px 12px;vertical-align:top;border-radius:0 0 0 2px"></td><td style="vertical-align:middle;padding:12px 24px 16px 12px;width:99%;font-family:YahooSans VF, YahooSans, OpenSans VF, OpenSans, Helvetica Neue, Segoe UI, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;border-radius:0 0 2px 0"><h2 class="ydp94bae2a0card-title" style="font-size: 14px; line-height: 19px; margin: 0px 0px 6px; font-family: YahooSans VF, YahooSans, OpenSans VF, OpenSans, Helvetica Neue, Segoe UI, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(29, 34, 40); max-width: 314px;">ChatGPT - The Omnologist Lab</h2><p class="ydp94bae2a0card-description" style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 16px; margin: 0px; color: rgb(151, 158, 168);">Thought-training partner inspired by Howard Bloom</p></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></a></div><div><br></div><p></p></span></div></blockquote></div><div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span><p class="ydpe1498679MsoBodyText2" align="center" style="text-align:center;mso-outline-level:1;tab-stops:400.5pt"></p><div style="text-align: left; " dir="" data-setdir="true"><span>with warmth and oomph--howard</span><br></div><div style="text-align: left; " dir="" data-setdir="true"><div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>__________________________</div><div>Howard Bloom</div><div>The Howard Bloom Institute</div><div><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://howardbloom.institute__;!!D9dNQwwGXtA!XyLhkd4__FEG7U8QOvLTXVcX-hBFeTqSHwMBXiMpDuTzvJIZlqtZj7SKDZle6qCa0tQKF03imxMgISJTCQ$">https://howardbloom.institute</a></div><div>Author of: The Case of the Sexual Cosmos: Everything You Know About Nature is Wrong, coming March, 2025 ("A massive achievement, WOW!" Richard Foreman, MacArthur Genius Award Winner, Officer of the Order of Arts & Letters, France)</div><div>Previous books: The Lucifer Principle: A Scientific Expedition Into the Forces of History ("mesmerizing"-The Washington Post), </div><div>Global Brain: The Evolution of Mass Mind From The Big Bang to the 21st Century ("reassuring and sobering"-The New Yorker),</div><div>The Genius of the Beast: A Radical Re-Vision of Capitalism ("A tremendously enjoyable book." James Fallows, National Correspondent, The Atlantic), </div><div>The God Problem: How A Godless Cosmos Creates ("Bloom's argument will rock your world." Barbara Ehrenreich),</div><div>How I Accidentally Started the Sixties (“Wow! Whew! Wild! Wonderful!” Timothy Leary),</div><div>The Mohammed Code (“A terrifying book…the best book I’ve read on Islam.” David Swindle, PJ Media),</div><div>Einstein, Michael Jackson & Me: a Search for Soul in the Power Pits of Rock & Roll ("Amazing. The writing is revelatory." Freddy DeMann, manager of Michael Jackson and Madonna), Best Book of 2020, New York Weekly Times </div><div><br></div><div>A Quartz Magazine Pro</div><div>Professor of Practice, Kepler Space University </div><div>Co-founder, The Asian Space Technology Summit</div><div>Former Visiting Scholar, Graduate Psychology Department, New York University, Former Core Faculty Member, The Graduate Institute; </div><div>Founder: International Paleopsychology Project. Founder, Space Development Steering Committee. Member Of Board Of Governors, National Space Society. Founding Board Member: Epic of Evolution Society. Founding Board Member, The Darwin Project.</div><div><br></div><div>BRIC-TV's 66-minute film, The Grand Unified Theory of Howard Bloom, <a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atYmiEZ6YDU__;!!D9dNQwwGXtA!XyLhkd4__FEG7U8QOvLTXVcX-hBFeTqSHwMBXiMpDuTzvJIZlqtZj7SKDZle6qCa0tQKF03imxMamlwNlg$">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atYmiEZ6YDU</a></div><div>Best Picture, Science Design Film Festival. Best Documentary Feature, Not Film Festival, Italy. 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On Saturday, March 29, 2025 at 09:33:45 AM EDT, Pedro C. Marijuán <pedroc.marijuan@gmail.com> wrote:
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<div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Thanks, Lou, for your 'armchair' experiment. My initial reading in the <br></div><div dir="ltr">screen, was of open mouth and incredulity (and some mistrust realizing <br></div><div dir="ltr">that every response starts by a kind and flattering consideration on the <br></div><div dir="ltr">question itself). After printing and re-reading, I do not know what to <br></div><div dir="ltr">say. It is like talking with a faked superhuman creature. Chilling. So <br></div><div dir="ltr">many questions one could ask on these machine responses... Trying to be <br></div><div dir="ltr">practical:<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">1. Could we organize the discussion on the various fundamental AI <br></div><div dir="ltr">aspects? My suggestion is that anyone willing to address one of those <br></div><div dir="ltr">aspects, send me a working title and two or three commenting lines (no <br></div><div dir="ltr">more). If so, I would order the received proposals and we could devote <br></div><div dir="ltr">2-3 weeks to any of them, involving our usual mixing and 'tangents'.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">2. About directly involving AI in these debates, it may be problematic, <br></div><div dir="ltr">but probably doable by some dedicated work of our 'expert' colleagues, <br></div><div dir="ltr">such as Lou has done. There is an inconvenient regarding the longish <br></div><div dir="ltr">texts that are easily created by AI. This necessarily kills our <br></div><div dir="ltr">attention span. And may create trouble with our list server (see that <br></div><div dir="ltr">just in case I have deleted the body of Lou's message).<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">3. The problem of meaning and syntax, and creativity by the machine, <br></div><div dir="ltr">with the 5 points provided by the machine itself on possible avenues... <br></div><div dir="ltr">are so amazing. Would it be possible for the machine to detect its own <br></div><div dir="ltr">creativity and the impacts it may generate in the conceptual world and <br></div><div dir="ltr">even more in the practical world where human action and human life reside?<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Are we in the verge of a brave "New History"?<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Best--Pedro<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> El 28/03/2025 a las 8:18, Louis Kauffman escribió:<br></div><div dir="ltr">> I took up the AI discussion with ChatGPT.<br></div><div dir="ltr">> Here is the record of that conversation.<br></div><div dir="ltr">> Best,<br></div><div dir="ltr">> Lou Kauffman<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">_______________________________________________<br></div><div dir="ltr">Fis mailing list<br></div><div dir="ltr"><a href="mailto:Fis@listas.unizar.es" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Fis@listas.unizar.es</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><a href="http://listas.unizar.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fis" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://listas.unizar.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fis</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">----------<br></div><div dir="ltr">INFORMACIN SOBRE PROTECCIN DE DATOS DE CARCTER PERSONAL<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Ud. recibe este correo por pertenecer a una lista de correo gestionada por la Universidad de Zaragoza.<br></div><div dir="ltr">Puede encontrar toda la informacin sobre como tratamos sus datos en el siguiente enlace: <a href="https://sicuz.unizar.es/informacion-sobre-proteccion-de-datos-de-caracter-personal-en-listas" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://sicuz.unizar.es/informacion-sobre-proteccion-de-datos-de-caracter-personal-en-listas</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">Recuerde que si est suscrito a una lista voluntaria Ud. puede darse de baja desde la propia aplicacin en el momento en que lo desee.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><a href="http://listas.unizar.es" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://listas.unizar.es</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">----------<br></div></div>
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