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<p>Dear Pedro,</p>
<p>Very well said Pedro. AI not just the elephant in the room, it is
becoming the room. As I have said, at least to the Board of IAIS
that we should form a subgroup on the Conceptual Foundations of
AI. </p>
<p>Years ago I wrote an Chapter "Logical Foundations of Distributed
Artificial Intelligence" :<br>
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<p>While its focus in on systems of multiple agents interacting
linguistically and non-linguistically and the underlying logic of
individual and cooperative ability and intentional states, it has
direct relevance to future cooperative artificial social
intelligence. <br>
</p>
<p>We well beyond the doorstep of what a year ago would have seemed
fantasy, The amazing ability of these LLMs and their high
dimensional spaces being able to interact to combine very
different highly complex ideas and theories. That together with
their almost limitless knowledge gives LLMs capacities way beyond
that of humans. True they make make mistakes but for complex
issues it takes an expert to realize such. So there is still a
role for the specialist. <br>
</p>
<p>Combine AI with the genome and we enter yet another undiscovered
deep realm of science, life and social disruption. </p>
<p>See my upcoming: "DeepSeeking Genomes to Crack the Cancer Code:
Protocols combine Artificial Intelligence, Cancer CAD modeling
with CRISPR to Decode and Cure Cancer with the side effect of
Deciphering<br>
the Universal Code of All Multicellular Life" <br>
</p>
<p>Sure its speculative but not far from the mark, I bet.</p>
<p>Eric<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/27/25 9:39 PM, Pedro C. Marijuán
wrote:<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Dear FIS Colleagues,</div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Thanks, Francesco. First of all, we
already have the link of the recent IAIS Dialogue between Mike
Levin & Bill Miller.</div>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">You can find it at: <b><a
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href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.youtube.com/@IAISDIALOGUES/videos__;!!D9dNQwwGXtA!W_MByENbMEiSc_AycSgd4RTNdAtu0mZS6Yf4wIfyE6dfAEQclY0TkwcEDpfZ4urFIbNaowcWyNsSRkuPLEljiZ5bV0UY$"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.youtube.com/@IAISDIALOGUES/videos</a></b></div>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">It was a really exciting time, and we
were willing to continue, so we are arranging a discussion
session in FIS list (in one month or so). <br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">And the elephant in the room: in
little more than one year AI is leaving an astonishing trail of
revolutionary events--this time it is serious, and pregnant with
so many repercussions. In my view, the influence in science
probably will be positive filling in some of our most obvious
individual/collective limitations. But concerning economy and
social governance, it is undeniable that the unprecedented
concentration of money and power in those very few parties
related with AI is daunting. It is menacing, it is hurting. It
is jeopardizing not only market competition and economic
freedom, but also political competition and democratic
institutions the world over. Too many causes, too many
transformations, too many confusions, too many
would-be-autocrats. Indeed. The information revolution of past
decades is being dramatically accelerated by AI... towards?
There is a beautiful connection to be made between foundations
of AI and foundations of information, and that concern may be
essential to us. Yes, but all the rest??<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">These are my today lamentations of
Jeremiah--or not really. Shouldn't we arrange an
omni-comprehensive discussion on that? <br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Best--Pedro<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">El 27/03/2025 a las 7:48, Francesco
Rizzo escribió:<br>
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Pedro,</span></p>
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style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">non
solo la nostra scienza, ma anche la teo-antropo-logia è
sostanzialmente umana e risente dell’emergere</span><span
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dell’“ultra-socialità" umana, incentrata</span><span
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della conoscenza multi-disciplinare. In proposito,
nell’ottobre del 2024 ho pubblicato <i>Teo-umano-logia
economica o economia teo-umano-logica. Dio si fa essere
umano affinché l’essere umano possa diventare Dio</i>
(Aracne, Roma).</span></p>
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style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">Comunque,
grazie per questa tua superiore precisazione.</span></p>
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Pedro,</span></p>
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style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:rgb(31,31,31)">not
only our science, but also theo-anthropo-logy is
substantially human and is affected by the emergence of
human "ultra-sociality", centered on the anthropo-genesis
of multi-disciplinary knowledge. In this regard, in
October 2024 I published Economic Theo-Human-logy or
Theo-Human-Logical Economy. God Becomes Human So that the
Human Being Can Become God (Aracne, Rome).</span></p>
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thank you for this superior clarification of yours.</span></p>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Il giorno mer 26 mar 2025
alle ore 21:38 Pedro C. Marijuán <<a
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ha scritto:<br>
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<p>Dear List,</p>
<p>Some aspects of the recent discussions may be related
to a recent work that Jorge Navarro and me have
published. The title is:</p>
<p><b>Human cognitive limitations and emotions: The
emergence of social complexity</b></p>
<p><span><span lang="EN-US">During some days it will be
possible to freely download it at: </span></span><br>
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<p><a
href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://kwnsfk27.r.eu-west-1.awstrack.me/L0/https:*2F*2Fauthors.elsevier.com*2Fc*2F1km7114z5IDE74/1/0102019595d5b408-fe30ac7d-0548-4e79-9c8b-5e161194b73e-000000/Fp_Xfz32ooLCp30pDCIBKRfNPiI=417__;JSUlJQ!!D9dNQwwGXtA!QaJp_U8j7KCZVKLGZqmROuQJrM-7UaToNXtRULLF0bxZjCW9YN2eqTuWu_tAFZPPax4QHL34kJO81scBG4NKPlRDt30S$"
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moz-do-not-send="true">https://authors.elsevier.com/c/1km7114z5IDE74</a></p>
I remember in late 1980s reading a book edited by F.E.
Yates (1987), where he was saying "our science smells
human... and there is no way to take that odor away "
(reminded just by heart, probably the second part of the
sentence is not exact). As we state in the abstract of
our paper: "Ultimately, this social adaptation process
made possible the emergence of human ‘ultrasociality’ –the
crux of Anthropogenesis-- and the most conspicuous
behavioral traits still observable in contemporary
societies, the effects of which also reverberate in the
practice of science itself." We have listed several dozen
individual and collective limitations that help make sense
of what we see in science (particularly in the
multidisciplinary). A fascinating question is whether
generative AI will change the game--and clean the odor???
<p>Best greetings,</p>
<p>--Pedro</p>
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