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<p>Dear Materialists,</p>
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<h1>Reality of possibilities far exceeds material reality<br>
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<li>There are more possibilities in most situations than there
is space in the universe to contain them,</li>
<li>Possibilities are real.<br>
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<li>Therefore, not all reality is physical or in physical space
time.</li>
<li>In quantum mechanics there are more possibilities than space
in the universe to contain them.</li>
<li>Therefore, there must be one or more extra dimensions to
contain them.</li>
<li>The consciousness and cloning problem shows the
consciousness must be in another dimension beyond our four
dimensional space time</li>
<li>The soul if it exists may be partly in our four dimensional
space-time and partly in other dimensions of reality.<br>
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<li>Materialism is just one aspect of reality. <br>
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<li>Reality is not just material it also contains the immaterial
which by far exceeds the material.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">At least those are my thoughts this
morning on a rainy day.</div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">-Eric <br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/11/25 8:35 PM, Peter Erdi wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr" id="divRplyFwdMsg"><span
style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><b>From:</b> Fis
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:fis-bounces@listas.unizar.es"><fis-bounces@listas.unizar.es></a> on behalf of Gordana
Dodig Crnkovic <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gordana.dodig-crnkovic@chalmers.se"><gordana.dodig-crnkovic@chalmers.se></a><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 11, 2025 1:41 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Eric Werner <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:eric.werner@oarf.org"><eric.werner@oarf.org></a>; Katherine
Peil <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:ktpeil@outlook.com"><ktpeil@outlook.com></a>; Howard Bloom
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:howlbloom@aol.com"><howlbloom@aol.com></a>; <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:fis@listas.unizar.es">fis@listas.unizar.es</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:fis@listas.unizar.es"><fis@listas.unizar.es></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fis] Emotional Contagion?</span>
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<p
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style="font-family: "Avenir Book"; font-size: 11pt;">Dear
Eric, Kate, Howard, and All,<br>
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</span></p>
<p
style="margin: 0cm; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span
style="font-family: "Avenir Book"; font-size: 11pt;">Being
a physicist, and reading recent discussions, I would like to
argue that there is no such thing as immaterial emotions.</span></p>
<p
style="margin: 0cm; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span
style="font-family: "Avenir Book"; font-size: 11pt;">At
the core, emotions are material phenomena.</span></p>
<p
style="margin: 0cm; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span
style="font-family: "Avenir Book"; font-size: 11pt;">Likewise,
<i>relations</i> are fundamentally material. There is no
information without physical implementation, as Landauer
famously argued.</span></p>
<p
style="margin: 0cm; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span
style="font-family: "Avenir Book"; font-size: 11pt;">Below
are my five arguments on embodyment of emotional contagion.</span></p>
<p
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style="font-family: "Avenir Book"; font-size: 11pt;"> </span></p>
<p
style="margin: 0cm; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span
style="font-family: "Avenir Book"; font-size: 11pt;"><b>1.
Emotional Contagion is a Biological Process</b></span></p>
<p
style="margin: 0cm; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span
style="font-family: "Avenir Book"; font-size: 11pt;">Emotional
contagion occurs through bodily interactions—facial
expressions, gestures, tone of voice, posture, and even subtle
physiological signals (heart rate, breathing patterns). When
one person smiles, it activates mirror neurons in the
observer’s brain, prompting similar facial muscles to
contract, causing measurable physical changes and subsequent
shifts in emotional state.</span></p>
<p
style="margin: 0cm; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span
style="font-family: "Avenir Book"; font-size: 11pt;"><b>2.
Emotional Contagion is Chemically Mediated</b></span></p>
<p
style="margin: 0cm; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span
style="font-family: "Avenir Book"; font-size: 11pt;">Emotional
states are directly connected to biochemical substances like
oxytocin, cortisol, dopamine, and serotonin. When emotional
contagion happens, it does so through these material
biochemical mediators.</span></p>
<p
style="margin: 0cm; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span
style="font-family: "Avenir Book"; font-size: 11pt;"><b>3.
Emotional Contagion Based on Embodiment of Emotion</b></span></p>
<p
style="margin: 0cm; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span
style="font-family: "Avenir Book"; font-size: 11pt;">Emotions
are not "floating" entities—they are communicated via bodily
presence. The presence of a physical body expressing emotion
is essential for contagion. Without physical embodiment
(special facial expressions, sound, rhythm, smell, touch,
posture, movements), emotional contagion does not occur.
Emotions transmitted through screens (video calls) are weaker
compared to face-to-face interactions precisely because
physical embodiment.</span></p>
<p
style="margin: 0cm; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span
style="font-family: "Avenir Book"; font-size: 11pt;"><b>4.
Manipulability of Emotional Contagion</b></span></p>
<p
style="margin: 0cm; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span
style="font-family: "Avenir Book"; font-size: 11pt;">Emotional
contagion can be modified or dampened pharmacologically (e.g.,
through anxiety-reducing drugs). If emotions were immaterial,
medications wouldn't alter emotional responses. Beta-blockers
reduce physical symptoms of anxiety (heartbeat, shaking),
weakening emotional contagion (e.g., stage fright contagion).
Antidepressants directly alter emotional contagion by
stabilizing neurotransmitters.</span></p>
<p
style="margin: 0cm; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span
style="font-family: "Avenir Book"; font-size: 11pt;"><b>5.
Neuroscientific Evidence of Embodied Resonance</b></span></p>
<p
style="margin: 0cm; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span
style="font-family: "Avenir Book"; font-size: 11pt;">Neuroimaging
clearly demonstrates activation of specific physical brain
areas (mirror neuron systems, limbic system, amygdala) during
emotional reactions. This direct neural activity is material.
Seeing someone in pain activates similar pain circuits in the
observer's brain—physically embodying the emotion in neural
tissue.</span></p>
<p
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style="font-family: "Avenir Book"; font-size: 11pt;"><b> </b></span></p>
<p
style="margin: 0cm; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span
style="font-family: "Avenir Book"; font-size: 11pt;"><b>How
this counters the immaterial perspective?</b></span></p>
<p
style="margin: 0cm; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span
style="font-family: "Avenir Book"; font-size: 11pt;">Those
who argue emotions are "immaterial" claim emotions are
disconnected from the body. However, emotional contagion’s
dependence on observable, biological, chemical, and
neurological mechanisms refute this clearly. If emotions were
immaterial, contagion wouldn’t require physical presence with
related physiological processes involving chemical, or
neuronal pathways.</span></p>
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<p
style="margin: 0cm; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span
style="font-family: "Avenir Book"; font-size: 11pt;">All
the best,</span></p>
<p
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style="font-family: "Avenir Book"; font-size: 11pt;">Gordana</span></p>
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style="font-family: "Avenir Book"; font-size: 11pt;"> </span></p>
<p
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style="font-family: "Avenir Book"; font-size: 11pt;">PS</span></p>
<p
style="margin: 0cm; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span
style="font-family: "Avenir Book"; font-size: 11pt;">My
arguments are the result of a long discussion with GPT-4.5,
which produced 20 pages of text. These were the prompts I
used:</span></p>
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<li
style="font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; margin: 0cm;"><span
style="font-family: "Avenir Book"; font-size: 11pt;">Can you
please explain emotional contagion to me?</span></li>
<li
style="font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; margin: 0cm;"><span
style="font-family: "Avenir Book"; font-size: 11pt;">Do you
see a connection to the resonance phenomena in physics?*</span></li>
<li
style="font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; margin: 0cm;"><span
style="font-family: "Avenir Book"; font-size: 11pt;">What are
the main differences between physical resonance and
emotional contagion?<br>
(At this point, GPT-4.5 began to explain the view that
emotions, like consciousness, are subjective and therefore
immaterial, while physical resonance is a material
phenomenon. I argued that it confused "subjective" with
"immaterial." Subjective experience is necessarily embodied
and thus has a material substrate. GPT-4.5 accepted my
arguments.)</span></li>
<li
style="font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; margin: 0cm;"><span
style="font-family: "Avenir Book"; font-size: 11pt;">Can you
summarize this discussion?</span></li>
</ol>
<p
style="margin: 0cm; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span
style="font-family: "Avenir Book"; font-size: 11pt;">Finally,
I edited the summary, shortening it.</span></p>
<p
style="margin: 0cm; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span
style="font-family: "Avenir Book"; font-size: 11pt;">I
wrote this mail and asked GPT-4.5 to check my English.</span></p>
<p
style="margin: 0cm; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span
style="font-family: "Avenir Book"; font-size: 11pt;">What
was my contribution?<br>
A physicist's view on emotional contagion.</span></p>
<p
style="margin: 0cm; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span
style="font-family: "Avenir Book"; font-size: 11pt;"> </span></p>
<p
style="margin: 0cm; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span
style="font-family: "Avenir Book"; font-size: 11pt;">*
Resonance occurs when an external force or
<i>driving frequency matches the natural frequency of a system</i>,
causing the system to oscillate with greatly increased
amplitude.</span></p>
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style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;"><b>From:
</b>Fis <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:fis-bounces@listas.unizar.es"><fis-bounces@listas.unizar.es></a> on behalf of
Eric Werner <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:eric.werner@oarf.org"><eric.werner@oarf.org></a><br>
<b>Organisation: </b>OARF.org<br>
<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, 11 March 2025 at 16:24<br>
<b>To: </b>Howard Bloom <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:howlbloom@aol.com"><howlbloom@aol.com></a>,
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:fis@listas.unizar.es">"fis@listas.unizar.es"</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:fis@listas.unizar.es"><fis@listas.unizar.es></a>,
Katherine Peil <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:ktpeil@outlook.com"><ktpeil@outlook.com></a><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Fis] Emotional Contagion?</span></p>
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<p>Dear Kate, Howard and All,</p>
<p>I have had highs in concerts and deep experiences with the
Aborigines in the heart of Australia. These experiences seem to
have little to do with each other. </p>
<p>The insight given to me by my experience in Australia evoked
the thought "They are crazy over there". Where "over there" was
European and American industrialized societies, their wrong path
and lack of genuine meaning. </p>
<p>The insight given to me while blowing up balloons backstage at
a Rolling Stones concert was, well, seeing Mick Jagger from the
back while he elicited the highs in his frontal audience. (My
girlfriend and I didn't have tickets and tried to get in and
lucked out being asked if we wanted to help backstage.) So I,
the Ph.D. -logician-philosopher-computer AI
scientist-developmental biologist-cancer theorist-(back at you
Howard<span style="font-family: "Apple Color Emoji";">😉</span>),
worked for a time for Mick Jagger! </p>
<p>What is the point?: I learned more from my interaction with a
50,000 year old mind in Australia than from all the science and
even Mick Jagger! It was emotion but it was more. Certainly not
material.</p>
<p>As for the Beethoven sequence (of creating, encoding,
interpreting and executing the encoding, hearing the execution,
encoding and experiencing}, has interesting relations to
embryonic development. Such transformations are at the heart of
development and communication.</p>
<p>-Eric</p>
<p
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3/11/25 5:48 AM, Howard Bloom wrote:</p>
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<p
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style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 18pt;">kate,
your question about emotional contagion and what we can call
"the cloud effect" is a good one.</span></p>
<p
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style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 18pt;"> </span></p>
<p
style="margin: 0cm; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span
style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 18pt;">about
this statement, with which i deeply agree:</span></p>
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style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 18pt;"> </span></p>
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<p
style="margin: 0cm; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span
style="font-family: Avenir, sans-serif; font-size: 18pt;">science
is remiss if it fails to interrogate the nature and power
of “faith”, given our embodied capacities for anomalous or
“spiritual" experiences</span></p>
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<p
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style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 18pt;"> </span></p>
<p
style="margin: 0cm; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span
style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 18pt;">i'm
an atheist. when science first grabbed hold of my soul when
i was ten years old, its aspiration to me seemed to be
omniscience.</span></p>
<p
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style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 18pt;"> </span></p>
<p
style="margin: 0cm; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span
style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 18pt;">spiritual
experiences are real. they may not be manifestations of
god, especially to folks like me to whom there is no god.
so what the hell are they? where do they come from? how did
they evolve? what do they mean? what do they tell us about
the nature of the cosmos that has birthed them?</span></p>
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style="margin: 0cm; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span
style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 18pt;"> </span></p>
<p
style="margin: 0cm; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span
style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 18pt;">in
my fieldwork in mass behavior, working with people like
michael jackson and prince for 20 years, i saw collective
ecstasies, what emil durkheim called "collective
effervescence," ecstatic experiences at work in audiences
all over north america.</span></p>
<p
style="margin: 0cm; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span
style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 18pt;"> </span></p>
<p
style="margin: 0cm; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span
style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 18pt;">in
fact, one of the jobs of my entertainers was to reliably
evoke these transcendent experiences. and in building the
careers of people like Prince, it was my job to help deliver
these ecstasies. they are real.</span></p>
<p
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style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 18pt;"> </span></p>
<p
style="margin: 0cm; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span
style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 18pt;">if
science can't address the question of these experiences, it
abandons the aspiration to omniscience. and it's not
science.</span></p>
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style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 18pt;"> </span></p>
<p
style="margin: 0cm; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span
style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 18pt;">with
warmth and oomph--howard</span></p>
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style="font-family: "Helvetica Neue"; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);">On
Monday, March 10, 2025 at 07:49:34 PM EDT, Katherine Peil
</span><span
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href="mailto:ktpeil@outlook.com"
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moz-do-not-send="true"><ktpeil@outlook.com></a></u></span><span
style="font-family: "Helvetica Neue"; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);"> wrote:</span></p>
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All,</span></p>
<p
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style="font-family: Avenir, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);">The
discussion about
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style="font-family: Avenir, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);">“</span><span
style="font-family: Avenir, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);">nothing"
or “something" being exchanged between speakers and
listeners prompts this
</span><span
style="font-family: Avenir, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);">question:
What about the phenomenon of "emotional contagion”? Do
Mike Levin’s revelation about bioelectricity bear upon
the concept of “subtle energy”?</span></p>
<p
style="margin: 0cm; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span
style="font-family: Avenir, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);">Also,
science is remiss if it fails to
</span><span
style="font-family: Avenir, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);">interrogate</span><span
style="font-family: Avenir, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);"> the
nature and power of “faith”, given our embodied
capacities for anomalous or “spiritual" experiences.
Pre-emptive pejoratives are not good science, but they
abound.</span></p>
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style="font-family: Avenir, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);">Kate
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