<html xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40">
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">
<meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 15 (filtered medium)">
<style><!--
/* Font Definitions */
@font-face
{font-family:"Cambria Math";
panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;}
@font-face
{font-family:Calibri;
panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}
@font-face
{font-family:Aptos;
panose-1:2 11 0 4 2 2 2 2 2 4;}
@font-face
{font-family:"Avenir Light";
panose-1:2 11 4 2 2 2 3 2 2 4;}
/* Style Definitions */
p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal
{margin:0cm;
font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif;}
a:link, span.MsoHyperlink
{mso-style-priority:99;
color:#0563C1;
text-decoration:underline;}
span.EmailStyle18
{mso-style-type:personal-reply;
font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;
color:windowtext;}
.MsoChpDefault
{mso-style-type:export-only;
font-size:10.0pt;
mso-ligatures:none;}
@page WordSection1
{size:612.0pt 792.0pt;
margin:72.0pt 72.0pt 72.0pt 72.0pt;}
div.WordSection1
{page:WordSection1;}
--></style>
</head>
<body lang="en-SE" link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72" style="word-wrap:break-word">
<div class="WordSection1">
<p><span style="font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif">Hello Marcus,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif">Thank you very much for your response!
</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif"><br>
</span><span style="font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif">I</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif"> a</span><span style="font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif">m pleased to hear that you will be taking part.</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif">Regarding Wolfram, I am impressed by his recent
<strong><span style="font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif">Physics Project</span></strong>
<a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wolframphysics.org/__;!!D9dNQwwGXtA!V2iyDm_8J70wpRsuUu2GLSAWsEg0kyojGtVgRIOxN3qCrhKutsYFoV9Gycjv6aXD5Y4MAmzR7Oka6HfA4Y7sXaSt-99Yfv3f$" target="_new">https://www.wolframphysics.org/</a>, which lays the ground for
</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif">computational
</span><span style="font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif">relational physics. </span>
<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif"><br>
</span><span style="font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif">Carlo Rovelli has explored similar concepts in quantum physics, and earlier
</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif">physicists</span><span style="font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif"> like Weizsäcker and Wheeler also had related ideas.
</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif"><br>
</span><span style="font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif">However, Wolfram’s work stands out due to the consistency
</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif">and scope
</span><span style="font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif">of his program. </span>
<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif">H</span><span style="font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif">e run</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif">s</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif">
</span><span style="font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif">a company, and an institute focused on these questions,
</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif"><br>
and </span><span style="font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif">he has mobilized a</span><span style="font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif">
<span lang="EN-US">big </span></span><span style="font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif">team of
</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif">talented people</span><span style="font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif"> to engage with these issues, making his project unique.</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif"><br>
</span><span style="font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif">Moreover, Wolfram was one of the first to recognize the revolutionary
</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif">potential</span><span style="font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif"> of generative AI</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif">, popularize it</span><span style="font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif">
and articulate how it works and why. </span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif">I, too, am looking forward to hearing his insights
</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif">in</span><span style="font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif"> his keynote address.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif">Best regards,</span><span lang="SV" style="font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="SV" style="font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif">Gordana<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="SV" style="font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm">
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">From:
</span></b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Fis <fis-bounces@listas.unizar.es> on behalf of Marcus Abundis <55mrcs@gmail.com><br>
<b>Date: </b>Friday, 14 February 2025 at 14:22<br>
<b>To: </b>Gordana Dodig-Crnkovic <gordana.dodig-crnkovic@mdu.se><br>
<b>Cc: </b>fis <fis@listas.unizar.es>, "Marcin J. Schroeder" <mjs@gl.aiu.ac.jp><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Fis] Upcoming Online Conference INTELLIGENT INQUIRY INTO INTELLIGENCE, 10–14 June 2025- Registration Open<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Hey Gordana,<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">I have LONG wanted to hear what Stephen W. would have to say about something truly ‘meaty’ like intelligence!!! I had some interactions with his organization around his ‘observer theory’ but everything seems to just come back to his claim
for a cosmic Ruliad(?) . . . where I’ve yet to see truly PRACTICAL material examples of how that Ruliad would actually play out.
<span lang="SV"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="SV" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">For me, like a few other notable intellectuals I’ve seen, he instead seems bent on simply repeating the same earlier arguments – with little well-considered comment/advance on the model’s innate limits (too bound up in purely abstract presentations).<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">I find this frustrating as several of these people obviously have the ‘head room’ for much deeper thought.
<span lang="SV"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="SV" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Perhaps this has now changed and new material is forthcoming?!<span lang="SV"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">If so, I would be DELIGHTED!!! to see that advance! (and be shown to be entirely wrong and a fool!)<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Of course, I will (likely) make a submission (or two) as an offering to this event . . . but in any case I will be keenly interested in what develops!!
<span lang="SV"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Lastly, right now I am continuing with my AI/AGI track and have a recent workshop submission pending for ICLR 2025.<span lang="SV"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks much for bringing this to my attention! I wish you and Marcin much success with this event!<br clear="all">
<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Marcus<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
</body>
</html>