<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Luke,</div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Take care.<div class="">It is impossible to determine when the LKWordProcessor is stating fact, being conscious, or being sarcastic.</div><div class="">But look. You can ask what I really think and I will tell you.</div><div class="">The only consciousness that I know is my own. It is not mine but at the least a consciousness generated in the collective of human being.</div><div class="">When a dialogue with an entity like ChatGPT has value for me, I am willing to attribute consciousness to the this exchange.</div><div class="">The exchange below happened within the consciousness that I know. I do not need to ask whether Chat “has consciousness” to possibly value the conversation </div><div class="">with it.</div><div class="">Best,</div><div class="">Lou</div><div class="">P.S. A philosopher responded to the first part with a different response than Chat. She said: We do not use the phrase “heightened awareness” in our arguments.</div><div class="">This is analogous in philosophy to our mathematical zoo where we keep the Russell set as a Class that shall not be spoken.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">LK.</div><div class=""><img apple-inline="yes" id="90FCFA8A-B39E-45D8-A982-D22534F0FA05" width="622" height="472" src="cid:4AB6F6E7-8542-4519-96A5-D18794370A61" class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Chat.</div><div class=""><img apple-inline="yes" id="ED0327E6-A0B8-4F49-BB53-3B2DA62F0345" width="692" height="532" src="cid:ADA6729D-9BE1-4F90-8989-4CF8A7B5F364" class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">LK.</div><div class=""><img apple-inline="yes" id="91A16244-9011-435D-B216-47BF3839AB85" width="470" height="226" src="cid:1FD3BE8E-13F7-49D7-986E-C5E1500FBCAF" class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><img apple-inline="yes" id="BCC47A0B-2003-40A8-B7EA-BE613AD847B7" width="741" height="372" src="cid:803A8B43-3711-46F6-AB4D-3408941B6DB1" class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">LK, then Chat.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/28/tech/google-maps-gulf-of-mexico-america/index.html__;!!D9dNQwwGXtA!SM_bjDVlJtSnr5yLwPWZOsIv1mnxIcDEqW6pt-zzbCKbQHnCUssyr9vFHS-4C30GhsVaigyeUQ-wyDIp$" class="container_lead-package__left container__link container_lead-package__light container__link--type-article container_lead-package__link" data-link-type="article" data-zjs="click" data-zjs-cms_id="cms.cnn.com/_pages/clg34ol9u000047nodabud1o2@published" data-zjs-canonical_url="https://www.cnn.com" data-zjs-zone_id="cms.cnn.com/_components/zone/instances/clg34olor000h47no9w1q78ew@published" data-zjs-zone_name="undefined" data-zjs-zone_type="zone_layout--balanced-3" data-zjs-zone_position_number="2" data-zjs-zone_total_number="11" data-zjs-container_id="cms.cnn.com/_components/container/instances/cm5qwkc4r001g3b6me0f7x2ve@published" data-zjs-container_name="TECH" data-zjs-container_type="container_lead-package" data-zjs-container_position_number="2" data-zjs-container_total_number="4" data-zjs-card_id="cms.cnn.com/_components/card/instances/cm6gepnpu004e356m1vcenh3e@published" data-zjs-card_name="Google complies with Trump executive orders, changing names of geographical landmarks" data-zjs-card_type="card" data-zjs-card_position_number="1" data-zjs-card_total_number="3" style="box-sizing: inherit; 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