<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">Dear Xueshan and All, <div><br></div><div>Let me give my own view of information that I use when developing theories of multi agent cooperation and communication.  </div><div>1. Information can exist in at least two forms: </div><div> 1.1. As an extensional information-set of possibilities that the information allows. <br id="lineBreakAtBeginningOfSignature"><div dir="ltr">Sent from my iPad</div><div dir="ltr">1.2. As a positive core of properties that all the possible states in an information set have in common . </div><div dir="ltr">1.3. However, most information sets do not have a common core. This is the problem with Barwise-Perry situation semantics any theory of information that attempts a common core definition. </div><div dir="ltr">1.4. Information creates abilities for the agent (see my work on the logic of ‘can’).</div><div dir="ltr">1.5. Intentions and intentional states of agents rely on these abilities for their creation. </div><div dir="ltr">1.6. Probabilistic abilities and intentional states are forced by information states without a common core.  This is the human condition for most informational states. </div><div dir="ltr">1.7. Communication by language, by nature or by the world creates possibilities that are actionable, possible actions for the agent. </div><div dir="ltr">1.8. It also allows cooperative multi agent action. </div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">I will let Thomas Goernitz fill in how this relates to his view of QM and consciousness if at all. </div><div dir="ltr">Ok my speech for the morning,</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Eric </div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Dec 6, 2024, at 10:03 AM, Gordana Dodig Crnkovic <gordana.dodig-crnkovic@chalmers.se> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Book";mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Thank you for your message.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Book";mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I wish I could reply directly, but as I already used my two messages for this week,

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I must wait until Monday.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Book";mso-fareast-language:EN-US">With best wishes,<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">From:

</span></b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Fis <fis-bounces@listas.unizar.es> on behalf of Xueshan Yan <yxs@pku.edu.cn><br>

<b>Organisation: </b>CHINA<br>

<b>Reply to: </b>"yxs@pku.edu.cn" <yxs@pku.edu.cn><br>

<b>Date: </b>Friday, 6 December 2024 at 09:36<br>

<b>To: </b>FIS <fis@listas.unizar.es><br>

<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Fis] Five Clouds over Fundamental Information Science. Information and Computation<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Dear Gordana,<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">It can be argued that information processing and information transmission are two parallel issues; however, it may be inappropriate to suggest that information

 processing and information structure are parallel. Drawing on Joseph's expertise, I am more inclined to see research on information structure as an ontological study of information, while research on information processing and transmission should be viewed

 as a study of information dynamics. If we can provide both ontological and dynamic explanations for any specialized information problem, then we will have achieved a significant milestone.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Mark's proposal to study information problems in computers is very clear. Adhering to his rigorous academic standards, he has provided precise definitions

 for each concept: Hardware, Software, and Infware. The computer science community is home to some of the brightest scientists in the world today, and after 20 years, if information problems in computer science can indeed be studied, why aren’t computer scientists

 addressing them? I believe the issue lies in the nature of computer IPS; they are heteropoietic, whereas only autopoietic information systems hold genuine research value. I have not read Mark's original research on this topic, so my comments may not be entirely

 accurate and should be taken as a reference.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Xueshan<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"> fis-bounces@listas.unizar.es

 <fis-bounces@listas.unizar.es> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Gordana Dodig Crnkovic<br>

<b>Sent:</b> Friday, December 6, 2024 1:42 AM<br>

<b>To:</b> yxs@pku.edu.cn; FIS <fis@listas.unizar.es><br>

<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fis] Five Clouds over Fundamental Information Science. Information and Computation<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Dear

</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Xueshan</span><span lang="SV" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I would like to comment on the following passage:<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">“Dear Gordana,<br>

They are not parallel. We are not discussing the same issue.<br>

I was shocked to see Mark's statement; we all coincidentally thought of the root of the word "information" in English. Mark used "inf," while I used "infor," and the root of the word "goods" is "ware." The significance of Mark's work lies in his attempt to

 bring computer science back to the path of information science. ‘Hardware,’ ‘Software,’ and ‘Infware’ – three beautiful instances of parallelism. If it were me, I would likely have created this new word as well.

<b>It is already a well-known mystery that computer science does not study information issues.<br>

</b>Gordana, thank you for providing this clue.</span><span lang="SV" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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Best wishes,<br>

Xueshan”</span><span lang="SV" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">This was

</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">the</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">

</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">response to my original inquiry regarding Mark Burgin's perspective, as described in his book:<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Burgin, M. (2005).

<a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/link.springer.com/book/10.1007/b138114__;!!D9dNQwwGXtA!SZCLtfB-RpGZJrjsbZ9Wcw-pVbw69K8QbmBoBOD435-v1mdSbK8iefs6_k8nawrcKY1naRZEoxIAn7LNgp0LB-uaBT_J-ci1$">

Super-Recursive Algorithms,</a> Springer Monographs in Computer Science. p. 4:<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">"Any IPS, we denote it by W, consists of three components:<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Hardware, which consists of physical devices of the I</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">nformation

</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">P</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">rocessing

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">S<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">ystem, IPS<span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">.

<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Software, which contains programs that regulate the IPS functioning.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Infware, which represents information processed by the IPS."<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Mark’s concept of “infware” (which, in my opinion, could alternatively be termed “infoware”) aligns interestingly with the linguistic layers

 of syntax, semantics, and pragmatics. This demonstrates a parallel between the structure of information and its processing within computational systems.</span><span lang="SV" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">The connection between information and computation is fundamental:

</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">nformation

</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">is a</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> structure. Computation is

</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">information

</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">processing.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">In Europe Computer Science (Computing) field is named “Informatics”.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">World Scientific has a book series</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">: <a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.worldscientific.com/series/wssis__;!!D9dNQwwGXtA!SZCLtfB-RpGZJrjsbZ9Wcw-pVbw69K8QbmBoBOD435-v1mdSbK8iefs6_k8nawrcKY1naRZEoxIAn7LNgp0LB-uaBYVjKnoR$">World

 Scientific Series in Information Studies</a></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">to which many of the members of FIS community as well as IS4SI community have contributed during the years.<br>

Book series was edited for many years by Mark Burgin. </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Here are the series volumes for reference:</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:18.0pt"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.worldscientific.com/worldscibooks/10.1142/13892__;!!D9dNQwwGXtA!SZCLtfB-RpGZJrjsbZ9Wcw-pVbw69K8QbmBoBOD435-v1mdSbK8iefs6_k8nawrcKY1naRZEoxIAn7LNgp0LB-uaBYW3dvwG$"><span lang="EN-US">Volume

 17-Forthcoming </span>-<b>Understanding Information and Its Role as a Tool: In Memory of Mark Burgin</b></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:54.0pt"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.worldscientific.com/author/Schroeder*2C*Marcin*J__;JSsr!!D9dNQwwGXtA!SZCLtfB-RpGZJrjsbZ9Wcw-pVbw69K8QbmBoBOD435-v1mdSbK8iefs6_k8nawrcKY1naRZEoxIAn7LNgp0LB-uaBUGZmEr1$" title="Marcin J Schroeder">Marcin

 J Schroeder</a> (Akita International University, Japan) and <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:54.0pt"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.worldscientific.com/author/Hofkirchner*2C*Wolfgang__;JSs!!D9dNQwwGXtA!SZCLtfB-RpGZJrjsbZ9Wcw-pVbw69K8QbmBoBOD435-v1mdSbK8iefs6_k8nawrcKY1naRZEoxIAn7LNgp0LB-uaBZlMFRWP$" title="Wolfgang Hofkirchner">Wolfgang

 Hofkirchner</a> (TU Wien, Austria & The Institute for a Global Sustainable Information Society (GSIS), Austria)</span><span lang="SV" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:54.0pt"><span lang="SV" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:18.0pt"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.worldscientific.com/worldscibooks/10.1142/13319__;!!D9dNQwwGXtA!SZCLtfB-RpGZJrjsbZ9Wcw-pVbw69K8QbmBoBOD435-v1mdSbK8iefs6_k8nawrcKY1naRZEoxIAn7LNgp0LB-uaBUdivYLu$">Volume

 16-<b>Probability,</b> <b>Information, and Physics: Problems with Quantum Mechanics in the Context of a Novel Probability Theory</b></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:54.0pt"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.worldscientific.com/author/Rocchi*2C*Paolo__;JSs!!D9dNQwwGXtA!SZCLtfB-RpGZJrjsbZ9Wcw-pVbw69K8QbmBoBOD435-v1mdSbK8iefs6_k8nawrcKY1naRZEoxIAn7LNgp0LB-uaBekIwcmz$" title="Paolo Rocchi">Paolo

 Rocchi</a> (IBM, Italy & LUISS University, Italy)</span><span lang="SV" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:54.0pt"><span lang="SV" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:18.0pt"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.worldscientific.com/worldscibooks/10.1142/13280__;!!D9dNQwwGXtA!SZCLtfB-RpGZJrjsbZ9Wcw-pVbw69K8QbmBoBOD435-v1mdSbK8iefs6_k8nawrcKY1naRZEoxIAn7LNgp0LB-uaBW01EbBy$">Volume

 15-Chaos, <b>Information, and the Future of Physics: The Seaman-Rössler Dialogue with Information Perspectives by Burgin and Seaman</b></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:54.0pt"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.worldscientific.com/author/Seaman*2C*William__;JSs!!D9dNQwwGXtA!SZCLtfB-RpGZJrjsbZ9Wcw-pVbw69K8QbmBoBOD435-v1mdSbK8iefs6_k8nawrcKY1naRZEoxIAn7LNgp0LB-uaBYn6b74U$" title="William Seaman">William

 Seaman</a> (Duke University, USA), <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:54.0pt"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.worldscientific.com/author/R**Assler*2C*Otto*E__;w7YlKys!!D9dNQwwGXtA!SZCLtfB-RpGZJrjsbZ9Wcw-pVbw69K8QbmBoBOD435-v1mdSbK8iefs6_k8nawrcKY1naRZEoxIAn7LNgp0LB-uaBb9um78c$" title="Otto E Rössler">Otto

 E Rössler</a> (University of Tübingen, Germany), and <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:54.0pt"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.worldscientific.com/author/Burgin*2C*Mark__;JSs!!D9dNQwwGXtA!SZCLtfB-RpGZJrjsbZ9Wcw-pVbw69K8QbmBoBOD435-v1mdSbK8iefs6_k8nawrcKY1naRZEoxIAn7LNgp0LB-uaBSLYs8Sa$" title="Mark Burgin">Mark

 Burgin</a> (University of California, Los Angeles, USA)</span><span lang="SV" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:54.0pt"><span lang="SV" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:18.0pt"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.worldscientific.com/worldscibooks/10.1142/12985__;!!D9dNQwwGXtA!SZCLtfB-RpGZJrjsbZ9Wcw-pVbw69K8QbmBoBOD435-v1mdSbK8iefs6_k8nawrcKY1naRZEoxIAn7LNgp0LB-uaBWdrmfg_$">Volume

 14-<b>The Logic of the Third: A Paradigm Shift to a Shared Future for Humanity</b></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:54.0pt"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.worldscientific.com/author/Hofkirchner*2C*Wolfgang__;JSs!!D9dNQwwGXtA!SZCLtfB-RpGZJrjsbZ9Wcw-pVbw69K8QbmBoBOD435-v1mdSbK8iefs6_k8nawrcKY1naRZEoxIAn7LNgp0LB-uaBZlMFRWP$" title="Wolfgang Hofkirchner">Wolfgang

 Hofkirchner</a> (The Institute for a Global Sustainable Information Society, Vienna, Austria)</span><span lang="SV" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:54.0pt"><span lang="SV" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:18.0pt"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.worldscientific.com/worldscibooks/10.1142/12601__;!!D9dNQwwGXtA!SZCLtfB-RpGZJrjsbZ9Wcw-pVbw69K8QbmBoBOD435-v1mdSbK8iefs6_k8nawrcKY1naRZEoxIAn7LNgp0LB-uaBTq6KVOl$">Volume

 13-<b>Ontological Information: Information in the Physical World</b></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:54.0pt"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.worldscientific.com/author/Krzanowski*2C*Roman__;JSs!!D9dNQwwGXtA!SZCLtfB-RpGZJrjsbZ9Wcw-pVbw69K8QbmBoBOD435-v1mdSbK8iefs6_k8nawrcKY1naRZEoxIAn7LNgp0LB-uaBb9S5XBP$" title="Roman Krzanowski">Roman

 Krzanowski</a> (The Pontifical University of John Paul II, Poland)</span><span lang="SV" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:54.0pt"><span lang="SV" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:18.0pt"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.worldscientific.com/worldscibooks/10.1142/12273__;!!D9dNQwwGXtA!SZCLtfB-RpGZJrjsbZ9Wcw-pVbw69K8QbmBoBOD435-v1mdSbK8iefs6_k8nawrcKY1naRZEoxIAn7LNgp0LB-uaBbT7TUfM$">Volume

 12-<b>Trilogy of Numbers and Arithmetic: Book 1: History of Numbers and Arithmetic: An Information Perspective</b></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:54.0pt"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.worldscientific.com/author/Burgin*2C*Mark__;JSs!!D9dNQwwGXtA!SZCLtfB-RpGZJrjsbZ9Wcw-pVbw69K8QbmBoBOD435-v1mdSbK8iefs6_k8nawrcKY1naRZEoxIAn7LNgp0LB-uaBSLYs8Sa$" title="Mark Burgin">Mark

 Burgin</a> (University of California, Los Angeles, USA)</span><span lang="SV" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:54.0pt"><span lang="SV" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:18.0pt"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.worldscientific.com/worldscibooks/10.1142/11191__;!!D9dNQwwGXtA!SZCLtfB-RpGZJrjsbZ9Wcw-pVbw69K8QbmBoBOD435-v1mdSbK8iefs6_k8nawrcKY1naRZEoxIAn7LNgp0LB-uaBSXQQw3y$">Volume

 11-<b>Theoretical Information Studies: Information in the World</b></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:54.0pt"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.worldscientific.com/author/Burgin*2C*Mark__;JSs!!D9dNQwwGXtA!SZCLtfB-RpGZJrjsbZ9Wcw-pVbw69K8QbmBoBOD435-v1mdSbK8iefs6_k8nawrcKY1naRZEoxIAn7LNgp0LB-uaBSLYs8Sa$" title="Mark Burgin">Mark

 Burgin</a> (University of California, Los Angeles, USA) and <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:54.0pt"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.worldscientific.com/author/Dodig-Crnkovic*2C*Gordana__;JSs!!D9dNQwwGXtA!SZCLtfB-RpGZJrjsbZ9Wcw-pVbw69K8QbmBoBOD435-v1mdSbK8iefs6_k8nawrcKY1naRZEoxIAn7LNgp0LB-uaBay1vt5B$" title="Gordana Dodig-Crnkovic">Gordana

 Dodig-Crnkovic</a> (Chalmers University of Technology, Sweden & Mälardalen University, Sweden)</span><span lang="SV" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:54.0pt"><span lang="SV" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:18.0pt"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.worldscientific.com/worldscibooks/10.1142/11190__;!!D9dNQwwGXtA!SZCLtfB-RpGZJrjsbZ9Wcw-pVbw69K8QbmBoBOD435-v1mdSbK8iefs6_k8nawrcKY1naRZEoxIAn7LNgp0LB-uaBcIS1l8V$">Volume

 10-<b>Philosophy and Methodology of Information: The Study of Information in the Transdisciplinary Perspective</b></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:54.0pt"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.worldscientific.com/author/Dodig-Crnkovic*2C*Gordana__;JSs!!D9dNQwwGXtA!SZCLtfB-RpGZJrjsbZ9Wcw-pVbw69K8QbmBoBOD435-v1mdSbK8iefs6_k8nawrcKY1naRZEoxIAn7LNgp0LB-uaBay1vt5B$" title="Gordana Dodig-Crnkovic">Gordana

 Dodig-Crnkovic</a> (Chalmers University of Technology, Sweden & Mälardalen University, Sweden) and <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:54.0pt"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.worldscientific.com/author/Burgin*2C*Mark__;JSs!!D9dNQwwGXtA!SZCLtfB-RpGZJrjsbZ9Wcw-pVbw69K8QbmBoBOD435-v1mdSbK8iefs6_k8nawrcKY1naRZEoxIAn7LNgp0LB-uaBSLYs8Sa$" title="Mark Burgin">Mark

 Burgin</a> (University of California, Los Angeles, USA)</span><span lang="SV" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:54.0pt"><span lang="SV" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:18.0pt"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.worldscientific.com/worldscibooks/10.1142/10016__;!!D9dNQwwGXtA!SZCLtfB-RpGZJrjsbZ9Wcw-pVbw69K8QbmBoBOD435-v1mdSbK8iefs6_k8nawrcKY1naRZEoxIAn7LNgp0LB-uaBfGrG9Am$">Volume

 9-<b>Information Studies and the Quest for Transdisciplinarity: Unity through Diversity</b></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:54.0pt"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.worldscientific.com/author/Burgin*2C*Mark__;JSs!!D9dNQwwGXtA!SZCLtfB-RpGZJrjsbZ9Wcw-pVbw69K8QbmBoBOD435-v1mdSbK8iefs6_k8nawrcKY1naRZEoxIAn7LNgp0LB-uaBSLYs8Sa$" title="Mark Burgin">Mark

 Burgin</a> (UCLA) and <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:54.0pt"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.worldscientific.com/author/Hofkirchner*2C*Wolfgang__;JSs!!D9dNQwwGXtA!SZCLtfB-RpGZJrjsbZ9Wcw-pVbw69K8QbmBoBOD435-v1mdSbK8iefs6_k8nawrcKY1naRZEoxIAn7LNgp0LB-uaBZlMFRWP$" title="Wolfgang Hofkirchner">Wolfgang

 Hofkirchner</a> (Vienna University of Technology, Austria)</span><span lang="SV" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:54.0pt"><span lang="SV" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:18.0pt"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.worldscientific.com/worldscibooks/10.1142/10015__;!!D9dNQwwGXtA!SZCLtfB-RpGZJrjsbZ9Wcw-pVbw69K8QbmBoBOD435-v1mdSbK8iefs6_k8nawrcKY1naRZEoxIAn7LNgp0LB-uaBcM2J8QZ$">Volume

 8-<b>The Future Information Society: Social and Technological Problems</b></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:54.0pt"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.worldscientific.com/author/Hofkirchner*2C*Wolfgang__;JSs!!D9dNQwwGXtA!SZCLtfB-RpGZJrjsbZ9Wcw-pVbw69K8QbmBoBOD435-v1mdSbK8iefs6_k8nawrcKY1naRZEoxIAn7LNgp0LB-uaBZlMFRWP$" title="Wolfgang Hofkirchner">Wolfgang

 Hofkirchner</a> (Vienna University of Technology, Austria) and <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:54.0pt"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.worldscientific.com/author/Burgin*2C*Mark__;JSs!!D9dNQwwGXtA!SZCLtfB-RpGZJrjsbZ9Wcw-pVbw69K8QbmBoBOD435-v1mdSbK8iefs6_k8nawrcKY1naRZEoxIAn7LNgp0LB-uaBSLYs8Sa$" title="Mark Burgin">Mark

 Burgin</a> (UCLA)</span><span lang="SV" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:54.0pt"><span lang="SV" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:18.0pt"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.worldscientific.com/worldscibooks/10.1142/10214__;!!D9dNQwwGXtA!SZCLtfB-RpGZJrjsbZ9Wcw-pVbw69K8QbmBoBOD435-v1mdSbK8iefs6_k8nawrcKY1naRZEoxIAn7LNgp0LB-uaBaVBzZd-$">Volume

 7-<b>Information Theory Models of Instabilities in Critical Systems</b></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:54.0pt"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.worldscientific.com/author/Wallace*2C*Rodrick__;JSs!!D9dNQwwGXtA!SZCLtfB-RpGZJrjsbZ9Wcw-pVbw69K8QbmBoBOD435-v1mdSbK8iefs6_k8nawrcKY1naRZEoxIAn7LNgp0LB-uaBROy9dnY$" title="Rodrick Wallace">Rodrick

 Wallace</a> (Columbia University, USA)</span><span lang="SV" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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 Burgin</a> (UCLA) and <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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 S Calude</a> (University of Auckland, New Zealand)</span><span lang="SV" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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 Wallace</a> (Columbia University, USA)</span><span lang="SV" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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 Hofkirchner</a> (Vienna University of Technology, Austria)</span><span lang="SV" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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 Dodig-Crnkovic</a> (Mälardalen University, Sweden) and <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:54.0pt"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.worldscientific.com/author/Burgin*2C*Mark__;JSs!!D9dNQwwGXtA!SZCLtfB-RpGZJrjsbZ9Wcw-pVbw69K8QbmBoBOD435-v1mdSbK8iefs6_k8nawrcKY1naRZEoxIAn7LNgp0LB-uaBSLYs8Sa$" title="Mark Burgin">Mark

 Burgin</a> (University of California, Los Angeles, USA)</span><span lang="SV" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:18.0pt"><b><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.worldscientific.com/worldscibooks/10.1142/7048__;!!D9dNQwwGXtA!SZCLtfB-RpGZJrjsbZ9Wcw-pVbw69K8QbmBoBOD435-v1mdSbK8iefs6_k8nawrcKY1naRZEoxIAn7LNgp0LB-uaBfHZ6ruC$"><span style="font-weight:normal">Volume

 1-</span>Theory of Information: Fundamentality, Diversity and Unification</a><o:p></o:p></span></b></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:54.0pt"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.worldscientific.com/author/Burgin*2C*Mark__;JSs!!D9dNQwwGXtA!SZCLtfB-RpGZJrjsbZ9Wcw-pVbw69K8QbmBoBOD435-v1mdSbK8iefs6_k8nawrcKY1naRZEoxIAn7LNgp0LB-uaBSLYs8Sa$" title="Mark Burgin">Mark

 Burgin</a> (University of California, Los Angeles, USA)</span><span lang="SV" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">This collection, especially Volume 2, provides insights into the relationship between information (structure) and computation

</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">(</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">its dynamics), with contributions from

 prominent scholars like Marvin Minsky, Aaron Sloman, Oron Shagrir, John Collier, Greg Chaitin, and Søren Brier, among others.</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="SV" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Avenir Light",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Gordana<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">From:

</span></b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Fis <<a href="mailto:fis-bounces@listas.unizar.es">fis-bounces@listas.unizar.es</a>> on behalf of Xueshan Yan <<a href="mailto:yxs@pku.edu.cn">yxs@pku.edu.cn</a>><br>

<b>Organisation: </b>CHINA<br>

<b>Reply to: </b>"<a href="mailto:yxs@pku.edu.cn">yxs@pku.edu.cn</a>" <<a href="mailto:yxs@pku.edu.cn">yxs@pku.edu.cn</a>><br>

<b>Date: </b>Thursday, 5 December 2024 at 14:31<br>

<b>To: </b>FIS <<a href="mailto:fis@listas.unizar.es">fis@listas.unizar.es</a>><br>

<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Fis] Five Clouds over Fundamental Information Science<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Dear Joseph,<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">No, no, we are your students, forever. For many years, you have always used beautiful language and a natural scientist's perspective to sharply narrate

 every information issue, which is evident to all.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Today, from a philosophical perspective, you have examined every question I have raised, and I am very pleased. Especially your review: “Hidden in Cloud

 4 is the 'philosopher's stone' with which the nature of information can be tested. The question is whether the phenomenon under study is capable of effecting change.”<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">We have exchanges over 10 years and understand each other very easily.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Best wishes</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:DengXian;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">，</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Xueshan<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">==========================<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Dear Marcus,<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Explanation 1*: It explains the background behind my proposal for the concept of inforware.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Explanation 2**: An inforware is divided into three levels: Information, Sign, and Substrate. The substrate is at the bottom level and is typically outside

 the scope of information science research. "ENTITY" and "AGENT" are good words, feel free to use them instead of worrying too much about what I said.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Best wishes,<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Xueshan<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">==========================<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Dear Eric,<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">I really appreciate your explanation. When reviewing the different definitions of "information" by information scientists, we find that many scholars define

 it as "code" or "sequence". At the same time, when looking back at the history of the definition of genes, from the original concept of “gene” to “genetic material”, most molecular biologists prefer to use "information" instead of "gene" today. Therefore,

 I would like try to express this issue using a language of fundamental information science: CRISPR is a technology that edits base signs sequences through genetic engineering, ultimately leading to changes in genetic information. I don't know if this statement

 is correct.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Best wishes,<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Xueshan<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Dear Gordana,<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">They are not parallel. We are not discussing the same issue.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">I was shocked to see Mark's statement; we all coincidentally thought of the root of the word "information" in English. Mark used "inf," while I used "infor,"

 and the root of the word "goods" is "ware." The significance of Mark's work lies in his attempt to bring computer science back to the path of information science. “Hardware”, “Software”, “Infware" – three beautiful instances of parallelism. If it were me,

 I would likely have created this new word as well. It is already a well-known mystery that computer science does not study information issues.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Gordana, thank you for providing this clue.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Best wishes,<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Xueshan<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Dear Francesco,<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Your triad of meaning, information and communication is very interesting. Let's hear everyone's comments.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Best wishes,<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Xueshan<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">

<a href="mailto:fis-bounces@listas.unizar.es">fis-bounces@listas.unizar.es</a> <<a href="mailto:fis-bounces@listas.unizar.es">fis-bounces@listas.unizar.es</a>>

<b>On Behalf Of </b><a href="mailto:joe.brenner@bluewin.ch">joe.brenner@bluewin.ch</a><br>

<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, December 4, 2024 6:32 PM<br>

<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:yxs@pku.edu.cn">yxs@pku.edu.cn</a>; FIS <<a href="mailto:fis@listas.unizar.es">fis@listas.unizar.es</a>><br>

<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fis] Five Clouds over Fundamental Information Science<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Dear Professor Yan,

<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">  <o:p>

</o:p></span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">You have given us

</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">–</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"> your "students"

</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">– </span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">a very difficult assignment. To make it a little easier for myself, I decided to look at the different issues from the perspective of

 the ontic-epistemic distinction, starting with those in your title. The real problem for me, thus is with the two lines of the second footnote (**):

<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">  <o:p>

</o:p></span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Clouds

<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">  <o:p>

</o:p></span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">      On first thought, a homogeneous form constituted by water droplets; on a second, the very embodiment of ontic change, appearance, growth and disappearance, with violent exchanges

 of energy as lightning. <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">  <o:p>

</o:p></span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Signs <o:p>

</o:p></span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">  <o:p>

</o:p></span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">      The sign is a representation, as accurate as you please, of a real object or process. On this basis it is essentially epistemic. Information, on the other hand, has both epistemic

 and ontic properties, and cannot be reduced to signs. <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">  <o:p>

</o:p></span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Meaning (Cloud 1)

<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">  <o:p>

</o:p></span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">      Following the second point, information and meaning can be considered as two different expressions of one existence (or existence

<em><span style="font-family:SimSun">tout court</span></em>), both embodying and applicable to

<em><span style="font-family:SimSun">change.</span></em> <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">  <o:p>

</o:p></span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Brain or Animal Informatics (Cloud 2)

<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">  <o:p>

</o:p></span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">      This Cloud seems mainly concerned with Informatics as an epistemic field, essentially self-defined. I have nothing particular to add.

<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">  <o:p>

</o:p></span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Genetics as a Discipline of Informatics (Cloud 3)

<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">  <o:p>

</o:p></span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">      What is being elaborated here is a further aspect of what I have concluded is an epistemic domain. Bases can function as signs, if you will, but the phenomena of interest are,

 exactly, those in neuroscience and endocrinology and it is the ontic properties of the bases (residual charge,

<span style="font-family:SimSun">etc.) that determine how the genetic material functions.

<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">  <o:p>

</o:p></span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Communication between Infowares

<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">  <o:p>

</o:p></span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">      Hidden in this Cloud 4 is the

</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">“</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">philosopher</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">’</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">s

 stone</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">”</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"> with which the nature of information can be tested. The question, as many have stated in their definitions of information, is whether

the phenomenon under study is capable of effecting <span style="font-family:SimSun">change.

On this basis, I can confirm by experience that my cats (<span style="font-family:SimSun">pace) and I communicated.

<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">  <o:p>

</o:p></span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Exploration of Fundamental Information Science

<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">  <o:p>

</o:p></span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">      The commonalities between in information disciplines, as embodied in most of the above Clouds, remain for me epistemic, questions of semantic modes of existence. That their

</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">“</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">complexity and enormity</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">”</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">

 exist all right and have been difficult to handle in science and philosophy is clear. In this view, however, Cloud 2 on Meaning is the counterargument to Line **, which I reproduce here:

<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">  <o:p>

</o:p></span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">      </span>

<span lang="ZH-CN" style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">“</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Studies focused solely on substrates

<strong><span style="font-family:SimSun">typically </span></strong>(emphasis mine) fall under the technical or natural sciences rather than information science.</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">”

</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">  <o:p>

</o:p></span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">      What this says to me is that at worst (at best?), my ontic approach to meaning-information is a-typical but can exist. It thus co-exists with the largely epistemic standard view,

 and this co-existence can be studied as an aspect of information science as well. I give the last word to the 5<sup>th</sup> Century BCE Greek playwright Aristophanes, whose a-typical play

<em><span style="font-family:SimSun">The Clouds </span></em>focused on problems of knowledge and existence (</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">“</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">The Thinkery</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">”</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">). 

   <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">  <o:p>

</o:p></span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Best wishes,

<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Joseph               

<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">  <o:p>

</o:p></span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Le 02.12.2024 10:09 CET, Xueshan Yan <<a href="mailto:yxs@pku.edu.cn">yxs@pku.edu.cn</a>> a

</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">é</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">crit :

<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">  <o:p>

</o:p></span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">  <o:p>

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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#222222;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Dear colleagues,</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#222222;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">I have summarized five sets of puzzles faced by fundamental information science and called them 'clouds' ― some of which have been emphasized

 by Pedro on many occasions. I am now glade to hear everyone's different opinions.</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<strong><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:SimSun;color:black;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"> </span></strong><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#222222;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Best wishes,</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#222222;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Xueshan Yan</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<strong><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#222222;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Five Clouds over Fundamental Information Science</span></strong><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<strong><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#222222;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Inforware*</span></strong><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#222222;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">:

 Information must exist in signs, and signs must exist on substrates**. We define a trinity composed of information, sign, and substrate as an Inforware.</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<strong><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#222222;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Four Concomitant Disciplines:

</span></strong><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#222222;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Based on the structure of an inforware, we have Informatics for studying information, and Semiotics for studying signs―the

 existence mode of information. Since communication is the transmission of information and computation is the processing of information, we also have another two fundamental disciplines: Communication Studies and Computation Studies. These four disciplines

 are concomitant; that is, if one is present, the other three (or more) will eventually emerge.</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<strong><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#222222;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Cloud 1. Information and Meaning</span></strong><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#222222;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">:

 What is information? Since 1948, information scientists have been discussing it for 76 years, yet still cannot provide a definitive answer. What is meaning? Since 1825, linguists have been debating it for 200 years and still cannot reach a definitive conclusion.

 Nevertheless, linguistics has been established successfully. Let’s consider a hypothesis: if we were to suspend all discussions about the definition of information for three years, what else could we do? From a human perspective, are information and meaning

 two homogenous issues</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">? Or are they two different expressions of one existence</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#222222;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">?</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<strong><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#222222;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Cloud 2. Brain Informatics or Animal Informatics</span></strong><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#222222;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">:<strong><span style="font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif">

</span></strong>It has been demonstrated that any organism with a brain inforware can communicate with others; therefore, brain informatics must exist, ―storing, sending, and receiving information are fundamental functions of the brain―, and human informatics

 already exists. Similarly, we could explore bee informatics, elephant informatics, and so on. Can we assume that there are as many types of animal informatics as there are animal species?</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<strong><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#222222;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Cloud 3. Genetics as a Discipline of Informatics:</span></strong><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#222222;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">

 Cells can communicate. The central dogma of molecular biology describes the pathway of DNA→RNA→protein, through which genetic information flows. In this process, DNA serves as substrate, bases function as signs, and genomics represents informatics. If we propose

 that genetics is the most successful branch of informatics, what would be the response from biologists? Could a similar phenomenon also be observed in neuroscience and endocrinology?</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<strong><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#222222;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Cloud 4. Communication between Inforwares</span></strong><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#222222;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">:

 Some speculate that two supramolecules can communicate with each other. But can two ordinary molecules communicate? Can two atoms communicate? Can two celestial bodies communicate? Can plants communicate with one another? Can different inforwares communicate

 across different levels? Is the communication between humans and cats true communication (language comprehension) or false communication (conditional reflex)?</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<strong><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#222222;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Cloud 5. Exploration of Fundamental Information Science</span></strong><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#222222;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">:

 Can we regard fundamental information science as an exploration based on the inductive method, focusing on the commonalities among various fundamental information disciplines, especially the four concomitant disciplines mentioned above? The complexity and

 enormity of this venture have far exceeded anyone's imagination. Is it one of the most challenging disciplines to study in contemporary times? Or, does it not exist at all?</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<em><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#222222;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">*Any discipline has its own concept framework, which is why I coined the new term

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 For example, the computer science is built on the two primary concepts of hardware and software.</span></em><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<em><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#222222;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">**Studies focused solely on substrates typically fall under the technical or natural sciences rather than information science.</span></em><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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