<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">Eric this is very interesting. Please build on “entangled”.  In Stuart Kauffman and Andre Roli,”What is Consciousness?”, J. Linnean Society 2023, we explore how humans can carry out multistep jury-rigging. Here there are no “local clues” that one is improving. One needs somehow to “find” or “glimpse" the total solution because no steps are deductive. Andrea and I find ourselves suggesting that mind is quantum, entangles with the world, then “I” collapse the wave function and experience the single state as a qualia.  It may work.  Dean Radin and colleagues have data that a human by “trying” can alter the outcome of the two slit experiment. The effect is weak, but summed over 24 experiments that data stand at 6.49 sigma. Mind may play a role in the becoming of the universe. Check his results.<div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div><br></div><div>Stu<br id="lineBreakAtBeginningOfMessage"><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On May 16, 2024, at 2:58 AM, Eric Werner <eric.werner@oarf.org> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div>

  
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  <div><p>Dear Kate and All,</p><p>Big heading too much to say, not enough time or space to put this
      in an email. So some short points:</p><p>1. Emotions occur in the context of a social-physical space of
      possibilities. The emotions cover this space evaluating it in
      multiple dimensions. <br>
    </p><p>2. The social space includes the intentional states of the agents
      interacting in that space. <br>
    </p><p>3. There is an intimate relationship between information,
      intention, and  ability underlying the emotional space or
      capacity. They form a complex multidimensional system that cannot
      be easily reduced without loss of the overall architecture. And
      loss of understanding of how it all fits together. <br>
    </p><p>4. The social mind has representations of this structure to be
      able to act in its social-physical world. <br>
    </p><p>5. Kate opens a door that allows us to look at this complex
      social-mental entangled system.</p><p>6. When say entangle I mean something analogous but not identical
      to QM. It is a hyper-space of entangled strategies that underlie
      the intentional-evaluative states of agents acting in the social
      space. <br>
    </p><p>7. There is certainly are logics involved: The logic of can, the
      logic of cooperative ability, the logic of intentions. These are
      time-dependent logics. But these logics need to interact in the
      reasoning social minds. <br>
    </p><p>8. Is there a logic of emotions? If so it probably goes beyond a
      binary or ternary or even a multi-valued ones.<br>
    </p><p>My warm greetings to all you brilliant people. </p><p>We are all experts with varying degrees of intersections and
      commonalities. With a lot of patience we may make some significant
      discoveries on the nature of the social mind. <br>
    </p><p>-Eric Werner <br>
    </p><p><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://ericwerner.com/__;!!D9dNQwwGXtA!UdK6lr46N75z7LB7DVAwITiZYScuLgYRkx6MQA2kDHeCCF5-yEM14bJU8aD_wqIDKuCkuGCqYT8BEPqPLmYKUyI$" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://ericwerner.com</a>
      -if you want to see some relevant articles to my way of looking at
      this complex topic. <br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/13/24 10:37 AM,
      <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:joe.brenner@bluewin.ch">joe.brenner@bluewin.ch</a> wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:1934032819.9489.1715589449184@bluewin.ch">
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      <font size="3">Dear Lou and All,</font>
      <div><font size="3"><br>
        </font></div>
      <div><font size="3">Basarab Nicolescu (1942 -    ), friend and
          continuator of Stéphane Lupasco, deserves the historical
          credit for showing that the "logic of the included middle" of
          the latter can be seen as a superposition of physical states
          in the macroscopic domain. </font></div>
      <div><font size="3"><br>
        </font></div>
      <div><font size="3">The "middle" in question is "half-way" between
          the actualization (presence) and potentialization (absence) of
          real contradictorial  physical phenomena, such as emotions,
          with the caveat that the absolute ideal limits (0 and 1) of
          either are not attained.</font></div>
      <div><font size="3"><br>
        </font></div>
      <div><font size="3">In my reformulation of this logic as "Logic in
          Reality", I have suggested that this concept applies in
          principle to complex phenomena. such as information,
          processes, or other wider contexts in Lou's term. An example
          of one such context would be useful to help focus this part of
          the debate.</font></div>
      <div><font size="3"><br>
        </font></div>
      <div><font size="3">Unfortunately, the principle is not applied in
          practice, with the result that complex changing phenomena are
          usually described in the static terms of standard, value-free
          logic. Partial exceptions can be found in the work of Aerts
          and Khrennikov, but their real-world applications are again
          too limited (constructed). </font></div>
      <div><font size="3"><br>
        </font></div>
      <div><font size="3">I would greatly value Kate's view as to
          whether she sees the components of emotion as following
          something like the laws of the "spaces" that Lou describes
          here, and to which my logic gives a possible physical
          interpretation.</font></div>
      <div><font size="3"><br>
        </font></div>
      <div><font size="3">Thank you and best wishes,</font></div>
      <div><font size="3">Joseph   <br>
        </font>
        <blockquote style="margin-right: 0px; margin-left:15px;">----Message
          d'origine----<br>
          De : <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:loukau@gmail.com">loukau@gmail.com</a><br>
          Date : 13/05/2024 - 09:53 (E)<br>
          À : <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:joe.brenner@bluewin.ch">joe.brenner@bluewin.ch</a><br>
          Cc : <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:plamen.l.simeonov@gmail.com">plamen.l.simeonov@gmail.com</a>, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:fis@listas.unizar.es">fis@listas.unizar.es</a>,
          <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:alexhankey@gmail.com">alexhankey@gmail.com</a><br>
          Objet : Re: [Fis] Comments on Questions from Katherine Peil<br>
          <br>
          Indeed one can formulate “quantum logic” without quantum
          theory.
          <div> One way is to incorporate the notion of
            superposition in the logic so that A v B is a superposition
            of states from A and from B.
          </div>
          <div> This can be axiomatized or one can use models
            such as vector spaces or lattices that exhibit the
            appropriate properties.
          </div>
          <div> For example, let V be a vector space over a
            field F with an inner product structure <a|b> for
            vectors a and b in V.
          </div>
          <div> Consider the collection L of subspaces of V.
          </div>
          <div> If A and B are subspaces of V, define ~A to be
            the orthogonal complement of A with respect to the inner
            product on V.
          </div>
          <div> Let A v B denote the subspace spanned by A and
            B.
          </div>
          <div> Let A ^ B denote the intersection of the
            subspaces A and B.
          </div>
          <div> Thus L is closed under v and ^ and ~.
          </div>
          <div> You can then verify that 
          </div>
          <div> A v ~A = V
          </div>
          <div> A ^ ~A = 0 (the 0 subspace)
          </div>
          <div> ~ ~A = A
          </div>
          <div> The distributive law does not hold.
          </div>
          <div> Such a structure gives a quantum physical logic
            when F is the complex numbers, but can be used as a
             non-distributive logic in wider contexts.
          </div>
          <div> The same is the case for various lattice
            models.
          </div>
          <div>  
          </div>
          <div>
            <div> <br>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <div> On May 12, 2024, at 10:13 AM, <a style="cursor:pointer; text-decoration:underline; color:blue" moz-do-not-send="true">joe.brenner@bluewin.ch</a>
                  wrote: </div>
                <br class="Apple-interchange-newline">
                <div> <font size="3">Dear Mark,
                    Plamen and others who have referred to a quantum or
                    quantum kind of logic,</font>
                  <div> <font size="3"><br>
                    </font> </div>
                  <div> <font size="3">I follow your
                      thought and insights, but your use of the term
                      "quantum" is superfetatory. What I think you are
                      looking for is a logic whose terms, like those of
                      quantum logic, do not commute or distribute. </font>
                  </div>
                  <div> <font size="3"><br>
                    </font> </div>
                  <div> <font size="3">What is true
                      of the quantum domain is true analytically -
                      particle-wave duality, <i>etc. </i>What
                      is true of the thermodynamic domain - actuality
                      moving to potentiality and <i>v.v. </i>is
                      true synthetically. Its logic is a dynamic logic
                      of processes, not quanta, and</font> <span style="font-size: inherit;"> the terms of
                      such a dynamic process logic can be said to
                      "breathe", accordingly.</span> </div>
                  <div> <font size="3"><br>
                    </font> </div>
                  <div> <font size="3">Best,</font> </div>
                  <div> <font size="3">Joseph<br>
                    </font>
                    <div> <br>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <blockquote style="margin-right: 0.0px;margin-left: 15.0px;"> ----Message d'origine---- <br>
                        De : <a style="cursor:pointer; text-decoration:underline; color:blue" moz-do-not-send="true">plamen.l.simeonov@gmail.com</a>
                        <br>
                        Date : 12/05/2024 - 14:54 (E) <br>
                        À : <a style="cursor:pointer; text-decoration:underline; color:blue" moz-do-not-send="true">johnsonmwj1@gmail.com</a>
                        <br>
                        Cc : <a style="cursor:pointer; text-decoration:underline; color:blue" moz-do-not-send="true">fis@listas.unizar.es</a>,
                        <a style="cursor:pointer; text-decoration:underline; color:blue" moz-do-not-send="true">alexhankey@gmail.com</a>
                        <br>
                        Objet : Re: [Fis] Comments on Questions from
                        Katherine Peil <br>
                        <br>
                        Thank you all, for this exciting turn in the
                        echo of Katherine’s topic. 
                        <div> <br>
                        </div>
                        <div> With breathing the subject
                          becomes much more interesting indeed.
                          Particularly if we want to be in control of
                          the lower self feelings. The quantum kind of
                          logic might make sense in rationalizing the
                          gain and spending of energy to perform certain
                          tasks. </div>
                        <div> <br>
                        </div>
                        <div> Alex, can you help with some good
                          references for laymen pranayama crash courses?
                        </div>
                        <div> <br>
                        </div>
                        <div> Best, </div>
                        <div> <br>
                        </div>
                        <div> Plamen <br>
                          <div dir="ltr"> <br>
                            <blockquote type="cite"> On May 12,
                              2024, at 11:08 AM, Mark Johnson < <a style="cursor:pointer; text-decoration:underline; color:blue" moz-do-not-send="true">johnsonmwj1@gmail.com</a>>
                              wrote: <br>
                              <br>
                            </blockquote>
                          </div>
                          <blockquote type="cite">
                            <div dir="ltr"> 
                              <div dir="auto"> Dear Alex and
                                Lou,
                                <div dir="auto"> <br>
                                </div>
                                <div dir="auto"> This seems to
                                  be much closer to the point - thank
                                  you.  </div>
                                <div dir="auto"> <br>
                                </div>
                                <div dir="auto"> Lou - I wonder
                                  if your question is a way of asking
                                  "is it possible to design a system
                                  that 'breathes'?" </div>
                                <div dir="auto"> <br>
                                </div>
                                <div dir="auto"> Current AI
                                  systems clearly do not. Our emotions
                                  do (As does music).  </div>
                                <div dir="auto"> <br>
                                </div>
                                <div dir="auto"> I'm intrigued
                                  by the possibility that there might be
                                  a quantum logic of breathing -
                                  something which is homologous to the
                                  function of the autonomic nervous
                                  system? </div>
                                <div dir="auto"> <br>
                                </div>
                                <div dir="auto"> One aspect to
                                  this which I think is important and
                                  which gets lost in discussion about
                                  emotions is that we breathe (and feel)
                                  together, and not alone.  </div>
                                <div dir="auto"> <br>
                                </div>
                                <div dir="auto"> Best wishes </div>
                                <div dir="auto"> <br>
                                </div>
                                <div dir="auto"> Mark </div>
                                <div dir="auto"> <br>
                                </div>
                                <div dir="auto"> <br>
                                </div>
                              </div>
                              <br>
                              <div class="gmail_quote">
                                <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"> On
                                  Sun, 12 May 2024, 08:43 Louis
                                  Kauffman, < <a style="cursor: pointer;text-decoration: underline;color: blue;" moz-do-not-send="true">loukau@gmail.com</a>>
                                  wrote: <br>
                                </div>
                                <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0 0 0 0.8ex;border-left: 1.0px rgb(204,204,204) solid;padding-left: 1.0ex;">
                                  <div style="word-wrap: break-word;line-break: after-white-space;">
                                    Dear Alex,
                                    <div> I agree with you. It
                                      is possible to design structures
                                      supported by digital systems that
                                      have their structure maintained by
                                      response to perturbations. </div>
                                    <div> There are very
                                      elementary cellular automata that
                                      are like that. </div>
                                    <div> Then we might have
                                      things like large language models
                                      that simulate biological systems
                                      with instability correction that
                                      verges on “experience” and
                                      “emotions”. </div>
                                    <div> Such systems could
                                      report on their own internal
                                      states, as we do. But present
                                      systems are not founded in this
                                      way. </div>
                                    <div> Best, </div>
                                    <div> Lou <br>
                                      <div> <br>
                                        <blockquote type="cite">
                                          <div> On May 12,
                                            2024, at 2:03 AM, Alex
                                            Hankey < <a style="cursor: pointer;text-decoration: underline;color: blue;" rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true">alexhankey@gmail.com</a>>
                                            wrote: </div>
                                          <br>
                                          <div>
                                            <div dir="ltr">
                                              <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family: times new roman , serif;font-size: large;color: rgb(11,83,148);">
                                                RE:  </div>
                                              <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family: times new roman , serif;font-size: large;color: rgb(11,83,148);">
                                                1. My take on the
                                                self-regulatory function
                                                emotion suggests that
                                                the dual  “purposes” of
                                                self-preservation and
                                                adaptive
                                                self-development (both
                                                mediated by Negative ~
                                                Positive categories of
                                                emotions) are rooted in
                                                <i>ancient
                                                  information signaling
                                                  and memory systems</i>.
                                                <div> 2. Is any
                                                  subjectivity involved
                                                  in information
                                                  processing? At what
                                                  point is it purely
                                                  mechanical? </div>
                                                <div> 3. And
                                                  once again, where does
                                                  the <i>semantic
                                                    value</i> enter the
                                                  picture? Not-self
                                                  pathogens? Too hot,
                                                  too cold? <br>
                                                </div>
                                                <div> <br>
                                                </div>
                                                <div> None of
                                                  these questions are
                                                  dealt with in terms of
                                                  digital information in
                                                  organisms of any kind.
                                                  Organisms treat them
                                                  in terms of
                                                  'Experience
                                                  Information', which is
                                                  entirely different,
                                                  being based on
                                                  naturally occurring
                                                  Instabilities in
                                                  organism response
                                                  systems, which cannot
                                                  support Digital
                                                  Information (for
                                                  obvious reasons), and
                                                  which are present to
                                                  enable the organism to
                                                  satisfy the
                                                  requirements of
                                                  Fractal Physiology. <br>
                                                </div>
                                              </div>
                                              <br>
                                              <span class="gmail_signature_prefix">-- </span> <br>
                                              <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature">
                                                <div dir="ltr">
                                                  <span style="font-family: arial , sans-serif;font-size: 13.0px;border-collapse: collapse;"><span style="font-family: times new roman , serif;font-size: large;color: rgb(11,83,148);"></span>Alex
                                                    Hankey M.A.
                                                    (Cantab.) PhD</span>
                                                  <span style="font-family: arial , sans-serif;font-size: 13.0px;border-collapse: collapse;"> (M.I.T.)
                                                    DSc. (Hon Causa) </span>
                                                  <span style="font-family: arial , sans-serif;font-size: 13.0px;border-collapse: collapse;">Professor
                                                    Emeritus of Biology,</span>
                                                  <div> <span style="font-family: arial , sans-serif;font-size: 13.0px;border-collapse: collapse;"> MIT
                                                      World Peace
                                                      University, </span>
                                                  </div>
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                                            DE DATOS DE CAR�CTER
                                            PERSONAL <br>
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                                            Ud. recibe este correo por
                                            pertenecer a una lista de
                                            correo gestionada por la
                                            Universidad de Zaragoza. <br>
                                            Puede encontrar toda la
                                            informaci�n sobre como
                                            tratamos sus datos en el
                                            siguiente enlace: <a href="https://sicuz.unizar.es/informacion-sobre-proteccion-de-datos-de-caracter-personal-en-listas" rel="noreferrer" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" moz-do-not-send="true">https://sicuz.unizar.es/informacion-sobre-proteccion-de-datos-de-caracter-personal-en-listas</a>
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                                            suscrito a una lista
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                                            de baja desde la propia
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                                  DE CARÁCTER PERSONAL <br>
                                  <br>
                                  Ud. recibe este correo por pertenecer
                                  a una lista de correo gestionada por
                                  la Universidad de Zaragoza. <br>
                                  Puede encontrar toda la información
                                  sobre como tratamos sus datos en el
                                  siguiente enlace: <a href="https://sicuz.unizar.es/informacion-sobre-proteccion-de-datos-de-caracter-personal-en-listas" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" moz-do-not-send="true">https://sicuz.unizar.es/informacion-sobre-proteccion-de-datos-de-caracter-personal-en-listas</a>
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                                  Recuerde que si está suscrito a una
                                  lista voluntaria Ud. puede darse de
                                  baja desde la propia aplicación en el
                                  momento en que lo desee. <br>
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                              <br>
                              <span>----------</span> <br>
                              <span>INFORMACIÓN SOBRE
                                PROTECCIÓN DE DATOS DE CARÁCTER PERSONAL</span>
                              <br>
                              <span></span> <br>
                              <span>Ud. recibe este correo por
                                pertenecer a una lista de correo
                                gestionada por la Universidad de
                                Zaragoza.</span> <br>
                              <span>Puede encontrar toda la
                                información sobre como tratamos sus
                                datos en el siguiente enlace: <a href="https://sicuz.unizar.es/informacion-sobre-proteccion-de-datos-de-caracter-personal-en-listas" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" moz-do-not-send="true">https://sicuz.unizar.es/informacion-sobre-proteccion-de-datos-de-caracter-personal-en-listas</a></span>
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                              <span>Recuerde que si está
                                suscrito a una lista voluntaria Ud.
                                puede darse de baja desde la propia
                                aplicación en el momento en que lo
                                desee.</span> <br>
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                  _______________________________________________ <br>
                  Fis mailing list <br>
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                  <br>
                  ---------- <br>
                  INFORMACI�N SOBRE PROTECCI�N DE DATOS DE CAR�CTER
                  PERSONAL <br>
                  <br>
                  Ud. recibe este correo por pertenecer a una lista de
                  correo gestionada por la Universidad de Zaragoza. <br>
                  Puede encontrar toda la informaci�n sobre como
                  tratamos sus datos en el siguiente enlace: <a href="https://sicuz.unizar.es/informacion-sobre-proteccion-de-datos-de-caracter-personal-en-listas" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://sicuz.unizar.es/informacion-sobre-proteccion-de-datos-de-caracter-personal-en-listas</a>
                  <br>
                  Recuerde que si est� suscrito a una lista voluntaria
                  Ud. puede darse de baja desde la propia aplicaci�n en
                  el momento en que lo desee. <br>
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Fis mailing list
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Fis@listas.unizar.es">Fis@listas.unizar.es</a>
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Ud. recibe este correo por pertenecer a una lista de correo gestionada por la Universidad de Zaragoza.
Puede encontrar toda la información sobre como tratamos sus datos en el siguiente enlace: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://sicuz.unizar.es/informacion-sobre-proteccion-de-datos-de-caracter-personal-en-listas">https://sicuz.unizar.es/informacion-sobre-proteccion-de-datos-de-caracter-personal-en-listas</a>
Recuerde que si está suscrito a una lista voluntaria Ud. puede darse de baja desde la propia aplicación en el momento en que lo desee.
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        Oxford Advanced Research Foundation <br>
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