<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">Hi All, I have for years adopted W. Heisenberg’s interpretation of the quantum state as “potentia standing ghost- like between a dream and reality. From this I get to, Res potentia, ontologically real Possibles that are not true or false, and Res extensa, ontologically real Actuals that are true or false. Then collapse of the wave function is a conversion of a Possible to an Actual. Physical cause of collapse is almost ruled out.<div><br></div><div>This interpetation immediately answers superposition and Schrodinger’s cat. The cat is possibly alive and simultaneously possibly dead” is not a contradiction. The same interpretation explains: which way information, null measurement, no fact of the matter between measurement, non locality, why actualization of one among N particles instantaneously alters the amplitudes of the others, and probably the delayed choice experiment. Stu Humanity in a Creative Universe OUP 2016.</div><div><br></div><div>Res potenta and Res extensa is not a substance dualism because potentia are not substances, so it does not inherit the Mind Body problem. In turn this suggests a role for mind: Mind actualizes potentia- ie collapses the wave function. Dean Radin and colleagues have data at 6.49 sigma that human mind can alter the outcome of the two slit experiment. So MIND can play a role in the becoming of thee universe.</div><div><br></div><div>Non locality is firmly establihshed. Therefore we have no firm apriori grounds to prefer locality - spacetime - as fundamental If we start with non locality as fundamental we must explain an emegence of spacetime. One try by me is: Quantum Gravity if Nonlocality is Fundamental, Entropy 2022. Any such theory requires some mapping from Hilbert space outside of spacetime to spacetime events. I propose one such mapping.</div><div><br></div><div>It is not obvious potentia are In spacetime. Suppose potentia are not in spacetime and are the quantum vacuum. Unconscious mind = the potentia of the quantum vacuum. Qulia are in spacetime, via actualization of potentia in MY Brain. Sudip and I have a paper on line, Human Cognition Surpasses the Tisirelson Bound: Is Mind In Spacetime? The data are still weak. My bet is that mind = potentia is not in spacetime.</div><div><br></div><div>And Information = Possibles and choices among them.</div><div><br></div><div>Stu<br><div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Feb 28, 2024, at 2:55 AM, joe.brenner@bluewin.ch wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div><meta charset="UTF-8"><blockquote style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 24px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; margin-right: 0px; margin-left: 15px;"><font size="3">Dear Gordana, Stu and Karl,<br><br>It is a matter of scientific fact that apart from this brief reference by Gordana, for which thanks, what I have written on the subject of potential and potentiality has been systematically ignored. May I please start this response by giving the title of my 2017 article in arXiv Physics with R. Bishop:<br> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><span> </span>"Potentiality, Actuality and Non-Separability in Quantum and Classical Physics:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><i>Res Potentiae<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></i>in the Macroscopic World".<br><br>I have suggested that information fits the schema defined in this paper and the science on which it is based. In addition, it offers the major advantage (in my mind) of being able to describe information and other complex human cognitive phenomena without going outside the laws of physics in the spacetime in which we normally evolve - the macroscopic world. <br><br>The value for me of a non-transcendental explanation for thought and feeling is that requires the highest level of individual responsibility. I can not "pan off", to use an obsolescent trope, any of this responsibility to possible aspects of the universe of which I have no knowledge. When a radioactive nucleus emits a particle is outside the thermodynamic world of (non-standard) logic and responsibility.<br><br>I thus will insist, if I may, on the use of "probable" rather than "possible" in the debate. Possible is epistemic, and lets one off the hook. Probable is ontic and means real, even if low or small. Potential information is therefore for me something very concrete, present in or accompanying actual information, with a real probability that can be ascribed to its evolution.<br><br>I would much welcome comments on the above,<br><br>Best,<br>Joseph<br><br></font><br>De :<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:gordana.dodig-crnkovic@chalmers.se">gordana.dodig-crnkovic@chalmers.se</a><br>Date : 27/02/2024 - 16:47 (E)<br>À :<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:michael.levin@allencenter.tufts.edu">michael.levin@allencenter.tufts.edu</a><br>Cc :<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:fis@listas.unizar.es">fis@listas.unizar.es</a><br>Objet : Re: [Fis] [External] Re: "express matter and energy in terms of information"<br><br><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1;"><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">On 2024-02-27, 15:42, "Fis on behalf of Levin, Michael" <<a href="mailto:fis-bounces@listas.unizar.es">fis-bounces@listas.unizar.es</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><<a href="mailto:fis-bounces@listas.unizar.es">mailto:fis-bounces@listas.unizar.es</a>> on behalf of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:michael.levin@allencenter.tufts.edu">michael.levin@allencenter.tufts.edu</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><<a href="mailto:michael.levin@allencenter.tufts.edu">mailto:michael.levin@allencenter.tufts.edu</a>>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">> 'latent information' exists: waiting to be *discovered* … waiting to<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">be *invented* as new views,<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">this is a very important and interesting point.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: "Avenir Book"; color: rgb(4, 50, 255);"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: "Avenir Book"; color: rgb(4, 50, 255);">Thanks, Mike and Marcus.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: "Avenir Book"; color: rgb(4, 50, 255);">Indeed! We have been discussing the world as ”potential information” (in the sense of Aristotle’s potentiality) several times. In the sense of Informational structural realism (Floridi), also in exchanges with Joseph.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">I have been working on a notion of this (Platonic?) space of potential inventions, ideas,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">etc. as being under “positive pressure” in some sense - it is not<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">observed, but it *wants* to be observed, it's pushing outward.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: "Avenir Book"; color: rgb(4, 50, 255);">In the Aristotelian sense, potentiality is in the world.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: "Avenir Book";"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: "Avenir Book"; color: rgb(4, 50, 255);">In the Platonic sense</span><span style="font-family: "Avenir Book"; color: rgb(4, 50, 255);">, the material world that we perceive with our senses is not the real world but merely a shadow of the real world. The real world,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: "Avenir Book"; color: rgb(4, 50, 255);">for</span><span style="font-family: "Avenir Book"; color: rgb(4, 50, 255);"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Plato, is a non-physical realm that consists of ideal forms or ideas.</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: "Avenir Book"; color: rgb(4, 50, 255);"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>I think we can safely say that the Platonic ideal world is in our heads.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">So can we define a notion in which something is not directly observed (yet) but<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">does exert some kind of “influence” in the world before it is directly<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">embodied/perceived? Can Observers be influenced by things they haven’t<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">yet observed (but are putting themselves in a position to be able to<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">observe)?<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: "Avenir Book"; color: rgb(4, 50, 255);">Yes, in the Platonic sense of ideas in our heads, our ideas exert real-world influence as they guide our behavior.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Is it possible to formalize the idea of a subtle influence<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">from the denizens of the latent space - a kind of causality (akin to<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">that of synchronicity?) which is not normal physical causality but also<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">not nothing?<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: "Avenir Book"; color: rgb(4, 50, 255);">Currently, I am not aware of such a framework to express the contents of our heads.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>But in principle, why not.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">When can you trace a causal chain back to something that<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">*doesn’t* physically exist? do thoughts that haven’t been thought yet<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">contribute to the shape of an agent’s cognitive landscape?<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: "Avenir Book"; color: rgb(4, 50, 255);">Freud would say, surely.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">is that what cognitive agents are - transducers (bridges) from the latent space to<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">the physical space, which collapse or amplify potentialities from that<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">space into our world?<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: "Avenir Book"; color: rgb(4, 50, 255);">They surely are. They are processing actual information on the level of language plus the potential information which can under certain conditions become actual for an agent.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: "Avenir Book"; color: rgb(4, 50, 255);"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: "Avenir Book"; color: rgb(4, 50, 255);"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: "Avenir Book"; color: rgb(4, 50, 255);">Thank you Marcus and Mike for this important point. By Maturana quote* I wanted to point out the importance of an observer for actual knowledge of the world that we are sharing.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: "Avenir Book"; color: rgb(4, 50, 255);">But there is a potential information both in the world and embodied in cognizing agents.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Mike<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: "Avenir Book"; color: rgb(4, 50, 255);">Gordana<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: "Avenir Book"; color: rgb(4, 50, 255);"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: "Avenir Book"; color: rgb(4, 50, 255);">* After the advent of ChatGPT Maturana’s quote is no longer valid.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>There are utterances made by agents which are not observers.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">------ Original Message ------<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">From "Marcus Abundis" <<a href="mailto:55mrcs@gmail.com">55mrcs@gmail.com</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><<a href="mailto:55mrcs@gmail.com">mailto:55mrcs@gmail.com</a>>><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">To "Gordana Dodig-Crnkovic" <<a href="mailto:gordana.dodig-crnkovic@mdu.se">gordana.dodig-crnkovic@mdu.se</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><<a href="mailto:gordana.dodig-crnkovic@mdu.se">mailto:gordana.dodig-crnkovic@mdu.se</a>>><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Cc "fis" <<a href="mailto:fis@listas.unizar.es">fis@listas.unizar.es</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><<a href="mailto:fis@listas.unizar.es">mailto:fis@listas.unizar.es</a>>><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Date 2/27/24, 9:17:09 AM<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Subject [External] Re: [Fis] "express matter and energy in terms of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">information"<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">>A nice synopsis Gordana, thanks!<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">>I would add (predictably) not ALL information is observed. For example,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">>'latent information' exists: waiting to be *discovered* in our many<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">>'logical gaps', or waiting to be *invented* as new views, devices, and<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">>tools by humanity's very-few skilled individuals. Only when Truly<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">>Perfect Knowledge of the cosmos is achieved (if ever possible) can we<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">>say all information is observed.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">>Marcus<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">>Caution: This message originated from outside of the Tufts University<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">>organization. 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font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 24px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;">----------</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 24px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 24px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;">INFORMACI�N SOBRE PROTECCI�N DE DATOS DE CAR�CTER PERSONAL</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 24px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 24px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); 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word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;">Puede encontrar toda la informaci�n sobre como tratamos sus datos en el siguiente enlace:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a href="https://sicuz.unizar.es/informacion-sobre-proteccion-de-datos-de-caracter-personal-en-listas" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 24px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">https://sicuz.unizar.es/informacion-sobre-proteccion-de-datos-de-caracter-personal-en-listas</a><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 24px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; 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