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            <td>RE: [Fis] Where does the information come from?</td>
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            <td>Wed, 17 Jan 2024 18:39:00 +0000</td>
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            <td>Christophe Menant <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:Christophe.Menant@hotmail.fr"><Christophe.Menant@hotmail.fr></a></td>
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            <td>Krassimir Markov <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:itheaiss@gmail.com"><itheaiss@gmail.com></a></td>
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            <td>'<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:fis@listas.unizar.es">fis@listas.unizar.es</a>' <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:fis@listas.unizar.es"><fis@listas.unizar.es></a></td>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt" lang="EN-US">Dear
            Krassimir,<br>
            You may remember your 2017 paper “data versus information”
            (attached) where you presented part of our FIS discussions
            that took place at that time.
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            Don’t you think that some points of the paper could be part
            of an answer to the question “where does information come
            from”?<br>
            Another way to introduce that subject could be to recall
            that information exists by the meaning it has for agents
            that manage it (create it or use it). Would you let us know
            how you position your today answer to the question
            relatively to the 2017 paper?
            <br>
            (on my side I’m still with <a
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            All the best <br>
            Christophe</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt" lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Fis
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              <b>De la part de</b> Krassimir Markov<br>
              <b>Envoyé :</b> mercredi 17 janvier 2024 17:43<br>
              <b>À :</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:fis@listas.unizar.es">fis@listas.unizar.es</a><br>
              <b>Objet :</b> [Fis] Where does the information come from?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt">Dear Stu
              and colleagues,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                <b>Where does the information come from?</b></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
                style="font-size:13.5pt">This has been a central
                question of philosophy for centuries.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
                style="font-size:13.5pt">And for centuries there have
                been two clear, radically different answers:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
                style="font-size:13.5pt">1. From the Creator, that is,
                from God or it is God himself !</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt">2.
                Information is a type of subjective reflection that is
                recognized by the subject what it reflects. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt">I.e.
                information is a class of subjective reflections that
                the subject eventually uses to create mental models.<br>
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                The first answer is unconstructive. It leads to
                passivity in the study of informational phenomena. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt">Note
                that apart from vague definitions of what information
                is, nothing else is offered - neither useful theories,
                nor practical implications.<br>
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                While the second answer gives wide scope for research
                and development. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
                style="font-size:13.5pt">There are currently a number of
                information theories, two of which are General.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
                style="font-size:13.5pt">Thanks to the fact that after
                our conversation in Tbilisi, Mark agreed that
                information is an impact that is recognized by the
                "infological system" and causes a change in it, he came
                to a serious result in the form of a "General Theory of
                Information".</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt">The
                other, the earlier "General Information Theory",
                completely steps on the primary concept of "reflection"
                and builds a neat system, which for years has been used
                in the training of computer scientists and the
                realization of new computational approaches, which come
                close in terms of possibilities to some characteristics
                of life consciousness.<br>
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                With respect,<br>
                Krassimir</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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