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<td>RE: [Fis] Where does the information come from?</td>
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<td>Christophe Menant <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:Christophe.Menant@hotmail.fr"><Christophe.Menant@hotmail.fr></a></td>
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<td>Krassimir Markov <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:itheaiss@gmail.com"><itheaiss@gmail.com></a></td>
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<td>'<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:fis@listas.unizar.es">fis@listas.unizar.es</a>' <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:fis@listas.unizar.es"><fis@listas.unizar.es></a></td>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt" lang="EN-US">Dear
Krassimir,<br>
You may remember your 2017 paper “data versus information”
(attached) where you presented part of our FIS discussions
that took place at that time.
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Don’t you think that some points of the paper could be part
of an answer to the question “where does information come
from”?<br>
Another way to introduce that subject could be to recall
that information exists by the meaning it has for agents
that manage it (create it or use it). Would you let us know
how you position your today answer to the question
relatively to the 2017 paper?
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(on my side I’m still with <a
href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://philpapers.org/rec/MENITA-7__;!!D9dNQwwGXtA!TidKCS2GLM7DaQhB48HmzMiNMzMvlknmrkHRnCwm21MNIScNyCQuBgVeotjWWHZ3X0XIRYYNmZpIeDZ7ukJnSGInOLweZiC1$"
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All the best <br>
Christophe</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt" lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:fis-bounces@listas.unizar.es"><fis-bounces@listas.unizar.es></a>
<b>De la part de</b> Krassimir Markov<br>
<b>Envoyé :</b> mercredi 17 janvier 2024 17:43<br>
<b>À :</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:fis@listas.unizar.es">fis@listas.unizar.es</a><br>
<b>Objet :</b> [Fis] Where does the information come from?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt">Dear Stu
and colleagues,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>Where does the information come from?</b></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="font-size:13.5pt">This has been a central
question of philosophy for centuries.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:13.5pt">And for centuries there have
been two clear, radically different answers:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="font-size:13.5pt">1. From the Creator, that is,
from God or it is God himself !</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt">2.
Information is a type of subjective reflection that is
recognized by the subject what it reflects. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt">I.e.
information is a class of subjective reflections that
the subject eventually uses to create mental models.<br>
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The first answer is unconstructive. It leads to
passivity in the study of informational phenomena. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt">Note
that apart from vague definitions of what information
is, nothing else is offered - neither useful theories,
nor practical implications.<br>
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While the second answer gives wide scope for research
and development. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="font-size:13.5pt">There are currently a number of
information theories, two of which are General.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:13.5pt">Thanks to the fact that after
our conversation in Tbilisi, Mark agreed that
information is an impact that is recognized by the
"infological system" and causes a change in it, he came
to a serious result in the form of a "General Theory of
Information".</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt">The
other, the earlier "General Information Theory",
completely steps on the primary concept of "reflection"
and builds a neat system, which for years has been used
in the training of computer scientists and the
realization of new computational approaches, which come
close in terms of possibilities to some characteristics
of life consciousness.<br>
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With respect,<br>
Krassimir</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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