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<div class="ContentPasted0">As part of the work on our model, we also came to the methods of statistical content analysis of texts. We also take into account the frequency of the presence of words and lemmas in the modern language in order to take into account
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<div class="ContentPasted0">We also found that in works on the content analysis of the emotional spectra of the text, words that do not denote emotions as such are often taken into account. For example, the word "love" and those close to it do not have an unambiguous
relationship to any particular emotion. Love is a phenomenon of perception, not an emotional experience (although it can cause many different emotions).</div>
<div class="ContentPasted0">If you are interested in our approach, it is briefly outlined here:
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In this paper, we analyzed the texts of several official sites during the COVID-19 pandemic and found out that these sites spread a neurotic attitude towards the pandemic (although they should counteract this attitude).<br>
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<b>Sent:</b> 03 April 2023 00:55<br>
<b>To:</b> Howard Bloom <howlbloom@aol.com>; fis@listas.unizar.es <fis@listas.unizar.es><br>
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<p>Dear Howard and FIS colleagues,</p>
<p>Sorry for the delay to respond but I have had very complicated weeks.</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="">Regarding sentiment analysis, in my new research group at the University of Zaragoza, we have developed a new approach based on the combination of machine learning techniques, in particular sentiment analysis
using lexicons, and multivariate statistical methods in order to assess the evolution of
</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="">public opinion </span><span lang="EN-GB" style="">and
</span><span lang="EN-GB" style=""></span><span lang="EN-GB" style="">social mood during social crises and natural disasters. Specifically:</span></p>
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<li><span lang="EN-GB" style="">Public opinion on the Covid-19 vaccination process in Spain (via
</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="">analysis of </span><span lang="EN-GB" style="">Twitter messages):
</span><span class="x_identifier"><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://doi.org/10.1016/j.puhe.2022.12.003__;!!D9dNQwwGXtA!Tq_3t8ANuucqGc7VWAY8pdd_llK9KFP1oYCuWAlg37TJT6TX99iZJMrnOCek7snlH2xuBzbHAnLtnuek4FBGoy1ZAymR$" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-GB" style="">10.1016/j.puhe.2022.12.003
</span></a></span><span lang="EN-GB" style=""></span></li><li><span lang="EN-GB" style="">Press media impact of the Cumbre Vieja volcano activity in the island of La Palma (Canary Islands, Spain):
<a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4292722__;!!D9dNQwwGXtA!Tq_3t8ANuucqGc7VWAY8pdd_llK9KFP1oYCuWAlg37TJT6TX99iZJMrnOCek7snlH2xuBzbHAnLtnuek4FBGox0RDJC7$" class="x_moz-txt-link-freetext">
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4292722</a></span></li></ul>
<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="">The approach has also shown utility, in an indirect way, to gauge the social support for public policies during the catastrophes. Some results using Fourier transform are rather impresive.<br>
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<span lang="EN-GB" style="">Perhaps the approach is not very advanced in its conceptualization of the basic emotions (anger, fear, anticipation, trust, surprise, sadness, joy, and disgust) and three valences regarding sentiments (positive, neutral, and negative).
Actually I am working with Pedro in some better connection of sentiment analysis with the complex landscape of social emotions--so much abused in social networks. We think our concept of the "sociotype" could be useful to understand better the different kinds
of social emotions and to denounce their perverse use in social media.</span>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="">Regards,</span></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="">Jorge Navarro</span></p>
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<div class="x_moz-cite-prefix">El 17/03/2023 a las 2:02, Howard Bloom escribió:<br>
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<div><span style="font-size:18.6667px">with warmth and oomph--howard</span><br>
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<div><span lang="EN-GB" style="">I will be happy to discuss on sentiment analysis, but perhaps there is not much interest in the list about this topic. Is there?
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<div><span lang="EN-GB" style="">Best regards,</span></div>
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<div><span lang="EN-GB" style="">Jorge</span></div>
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<div class="x_yiv6543463300moz-cite-prefix">Many thanks for your previous responses. I appreciate having heard about Wilhelm Wundt's approach to emotions, who rarely appears in the current literature. Not being a practicing researcher in this field I have being
relying on recent literature (Ekman, Feldman, Damasio...), rather dissatisfying for may taste. Perhaps Panksepp, given his meaningful biological connections, is the most interesting for me. I am trying to connect emotions with the biological information flow
as realized in the cell's life-cycle, on the one side, and in the other side with "sentiment analysis" in artificial intelligence (following the work of my long-term collaborator Jorge Navarro--Jorge, are you around??). So, perhaps we are not too far from
your own concerns. In the field of sentiment analysis, very important for all those companies monetizing Internet activities (steeling our "cookies" or manipulating in the new social networks), I have also found a rather primitive concept of emotions, basically
those "6 big" of Ekman or a few more. It is a very important problem, I think. There is a beautiful quotation from philosopher Ortega y Gasset abou that, which I will leave for next exchanges.<br clear="none">
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<div class="x_yiv6543463300moz-cite-prefix">Somehow, the above connects with your sentence below "<span lang="EN-US" style="">Emotions don't make us human, but emotions make us alive." I agree in the second part of the sentence. In my opinion, the virtual
"body of emotions" is substantially reorganized in each species and along its ontogenetic development, and of course it depends on gender too (what was called "sex" before the woke cultural mutation). Therefore, human emotions would make us human, and wolf
emotions would make them Canis lupus. Using a computer metaphor, emotions "software" would have evolved in accordance with the rest of the bodily "hardware", both making possible the advancement of a particular life story in the evolutionary niche.
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<div class="x_yiv6543463300moz-cite-prefix"><span lang="EN-US" style="">In daily life terms, forgetting how cultures mingle in our emotional development,
</span><span lang="EN-US" style="">how similar </span><span lang="EN-US" style="">are man and women emotions?
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<div class="x_yiv6543463300moz-cite-prefix"><span lang="EN-US" style="">Also, how similar are the emotions of our pets to our own?
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<div class="x_yiv6543463300moz-cite-prefix"><span lang="EN-US" style=""></span><span lang="EN-US" style="">People lacking a minimum of emotional background, we call them "inhuman"</span><span lang="EN-US" style="">...</span></div>
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<div class="x_yiv6543463300moz-cite-prefix"> El 13/03/2023 a las 12:25, konstantin lidin escribió:<br clear="none">
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<span lang="EN-US" style="">2. information flows of zettabyte intensity are inherent not only to humans. A large amount of information per unit of substance is a characteristic feature of the living compared to the inanimate. Emotions don't make us human, but
emotions make us alive. </span></div>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="">Regarding the individual "pattern" of emotions, I would like to add the following: </span></div>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="">if we add a third dimension to the two axes of the Cartesian plane, then we will have the opportunity to depict the individual characteristics of the emotional sphere of the personality. The third dimension is valence (attractiveness)
- the subjective (individual) experience of emotions by a person. In three-dimensional space, we get a certain figure or relief, unique for each individual. This relief is also subject to changes over time. For example, a healthy and normally developing child
experiences maximum pleasure from experiencing the emotions of the "interest" group. But with age, traumas and crises can shift the point of maximum valence to other areas of the "space of emotions". </span></div>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="">Emotions that have the maximum valence for a particular person are called "genuine happiness (felicitas)" of that person. </span></div>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="">An example of an individual relief is shown in the figure: </span></div>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="">Unfortunately, I don't have enough data to draw conclusions about the prevalence of certain types of genuine happiness (felicitas). Some indication on this score can be obtained by analyzing the volumes of markets on which certain
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<span lang="EN-US" style="">An approximate analysis is shown in Figure 2: </span></div>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="">Of course, the volume of sales of emotions is influenced not only by individual preferences, but also by fashion, advertising and other types of social pressure on the individual. </span></div>
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<b>Sent:</b> 11 March 2023 20:52<br clear="none">
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<div class="x_yiv6543463300x_moz-cite-prefix">Dear Konstantin and FIS Colleagues,</div>
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<div class="x_yiv6543463300x_moz-cite-prefix">Thanks a lot for all the ideas in your initial texts and in the responses. I would like to receive some further comments in a few issues (better if you take some time and different days to answer--also to attract
other parties to the reflection).</div>
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<div class="x_yiv6543463300x_moz-cite-prefix">First, the James Russell's "circumplex model" (1980). That Cartesian diagram of emotions you present is an interesting variant of what he published involving "arousal" and "valence" as main coordinates. There has
been quite a few development and changes thereafter, with another relevant graphic model by Robert Plutchik (also in 1980!) known as the "emotion wheel", interesting to discuss the combinatoric of emotions. Unfortunately much of the later research has gone
to describe more and more emotion lists, larger and larger ones. So, it is very interesting to see your causal model related to the info flow. Although some reference to the Connectome and the role of the different areas could also be interesting (not only
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<div class="x_yiv6543463300x_moz-cite-prefix">Second, about the life cycle. If emotions are what makes us human (which I agree), we would see an ontogenetic development of the emotional panoply, according to age, gender, and personality, and also with cultural
modifications or channeling in the expression of emotions. This should affect, I think, the configuration of that Cartesian diagram. And in this aspect the difference between sentiments and emotions has to be clarified regarding also their "permanence" in
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<div class="x_yiv6543463300x_moz-cite-prefix">Third, the relationship with rationality. Reminding System1 and System2 reaction types described by Kahneman, there could be an interesting connection with our "identity", guarded by emotions as a sort of behavioral
"immune system" that tries to preserve our fitness. So, System 1 works as an emotional system that helps to preserve our immediate maintenance in time, in an innate way (like the innate branch of our immune system), later on complemented by System 2 "adaptive"
mass of experiential learning and rationality. In this link with identity, maybe the ideas of Sheri Markose and Lou Kauffman could dovetail here.
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<div class="x_yiv6543463300x_moz-cite-prefix">And fourth, I am very interested in your application to urbanism (and other related aspects) and in general concerning the essential role of emotions in our daily life. In particular, the connection with urbanism
has never been discussed in our list.</div>
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<div class="x_yiv6543463300x_moz-cite-prefix">Thanks again for your stimulating views (I leave the discussion on information metrics & dynamics for further exchanges).</div>
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Thank you, Howard.
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You are absolutely right, emotions are a powerful tool for understanding a person and the world. Unfortunately, they are very little studied (much less than cognitions) and mostly remain in the realm of the unconscious. The concept of "emotional intelligence"
is often found in the scientific literature, but it most often means only the skill of recognizing basic emotions by the facial expression of the interlocutor. Obviously, this is absolutely not enough. As a result, emotions are often perceived as some kind
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This is very strange and inconvenient, especially considering the huge role that emotions play in people's behavior and in the economy. We rarely realize how much the price of emotions occupies in the consumer price of our everyday purchases. Here is an illustration
- the price of coffee in its "natural" form, then the price of coffee preparation services, and then the price with the addition of prestige emotions (a fashion brand brings valuable emotions from the "joy - pride" group).</div>
In our daily life, spending on emotions accounts for about 90% of all expenses, and the richer the country, the greater this share</div>
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<div style="color:black; font:14pt Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">excellent point on the importance of emotions. and on the commercial sale of emotions.
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<div>i suspect that emotions are our fastest form of information processing. in other words, they have a wisdom of their own.</div>
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<div class="x_yiv6543463300x_x_yiv2999675076ContentPasted0">For my part, I can add that emotions are a very popular commodity. For example, tourism is the sale of emotions of the "interest" group. Gambling is an industry of emotions of the group "excitement,
risk". Cinema produces and sells emotions of a wide range, from "joy - pride" (comedies, family films) to "disgust" (horror and punk films), and so on. All these are market sectors with a turnover of hundreds of billions of USD per year.</div>
<div class="x_yiv6543463300x_x_yiv2999675076ContentPasted0">Note also that positive emotions (for example, such a kind of "joy - pride" emotions as prestige) often make up a significant part of wages in some areas.</div>
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<b>Sent:</b> 01 March 2023 23:49<br clear="none">
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<div>Dear Konstantin, </div>
<div>I would like to make the following contribution: in my new economy it is not necessary to separate humanitarian information and natural information, since I adopt a single trans-information process based on the 3 surpluses or thermodynamic, genetic and semiotic-hermeneutic
information; that is, a theory of value underlying a single piece of information, consisting in giving or taking shape, measurable in bits of entropy (in natural-rational information and in neg-entropy (in emotional-human communication). So that the flow of information
related to emotion, can give rise to what I call emo-rationality. Thank you! Do I have to apologize for my (non) simplicity?Francesco<br clear="none">
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Caro Konstantin,
<div>desidero dare il seguente contributo: nella mia economia nuova non è necessario separare l'informazione </div>
<div>umanitaria e l'informazione naturale, poiché adotto un unico processo di tras-informazione basato sui 3 </div>
<div>surplus o informazione termodinamica, genetica e semiotico-ermeneutica; cioè una teoria del valore sottesa </div>
<div>da un'unica informazione, consistente nel dare o nel prendere forma, misurabile in bit di entropia (nella </div>
<div>informazione natural-razionale e in neg-entropia (nella comu nicazione emozional-umana). Sicchè il flusso di </div>
<div>informazioni connesse all'emozione, può dar luogo a quella che io chiamo emo-ra-zionalità. </div>
<div>Grazie! Dobbo scusarmi per la mia (non) sempicità?</div>
<div>Francesco</div>
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<div style="font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt">the calculation of the amount of information contained in one human personality is based on the following considerations:
<div>the number of nitrogenous bases in a DNA molecule is 3.2 billion. Each base contains two bits of information. In total, the amount of information in one DNA molecule is about a gigabyte (10^9);</div>
<div>all cells of the human body are different and, therefore, the information in each cell does not coincide with the information in other cells. Therefore, the amount of information in the body needs to be multiplied by the number of cells - about 10 ^ 14;</div>
<div>the total is 10 ^ 23 bytes, that is, one hundred zettabytes. Even considering that 99% of cellular information is repeated, the amount of unique information in a living organism is zettabytes. It is the amount of information per unit of mass that is the
fundamental difference between a living organism and an inanimate one.</div>
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<div>Our model can be useful for the study of intrapsychic processes. Unfortunately, the format of a short message does not allow us to fully describe all the results obtained over twenty-five years of development of this model.</div>
<div>You are absolutely right; the human personality is complex enough that its individual fragments can experience different emotions at the same time. A person can simultaneously experience fear of a shark, tenderness and trust in it, sadness from his loneliness
in the middle of an endless ocean, and so on.</div>
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<div>The role of hormones and neurotransmitters in the movement of information through the nervous system has not been sufficiently studied. The processes occurring in the synaptic cleft are associated with the adaptation of the nervous system to the nature
of the flow of information. The balance of neurotransmitters in the synaptic cleft corresponds to the characteristics of the information flow - for example, adrenaline promotes the passage of chaotic flows (emotion "fear"), and gamma-aminobutyric acid "adjusts"
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<div dir="ltr">I powerful and important take on emotions as experience of information flow. </div>
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<div dir="ltr">Really appreciate "<span style="font-family:New; text-indent:47.2667px">In turn, we understand information as a structural aspect of the existence of matter, along with the inertial aspect (substance) and the dynamic aspect (energy). We believe
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<div dir="ltr"><span style="font-family:New; text-indent:47.2667px"><span style="text-indent:47.2667px">"The total amount of information contained on all media in all libraries, archives and other repositories of mankind is about a zettabyte (10^23 bits). About
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<div dir="ltr" style="text-indent:47.2667px">Watching video of a fisherman who saved a great white shark trapped it nets. The shark keep returning to the fishman's small boat for days. Shark rolled on her? back next to his boat so he could spoke her belly to
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