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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Dear Konstantin,</div>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Many thanks for your previous
      responses. I appreciate having heard about Wilhelm Wundt's
      approach to emotions, who rarely appears in the current
      literature. Not being a practicing researcher in this field I have
      being relying on recent literature (Ekman, Feldman, Damasio...),
      rather dissatisfying for may taste. Perhaps Panksepp, given his
      meaningful biological connections, is the most interesting for me.
      I am trying to connect emotions with the biological information
      flow as realized in the cell's life-cycle, on the one side, and in
      the other side with "sentiment analysis" in artificial
      intelligence (following the work of my long-term collaborator
      Jorge Navarro--Jorge, are you around??). So, perhaps we are not
      too far from your own concerns. In the field of sentiment
      analysis, very important for all those companies monetizing
      Internet activities (steeling our "cookies" or manipulating in the
      new social networks), I have also found a rather primitive concept
      of emotions, basically those "6 big" of Ekman or a few more. It is
      a very important problem, I think. There is a beautiful quotation
      from philosopher Ortega y Gasset abou that, which I will leave for
      next exchanges.<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Somehow, the above connects with your
      sentence below "<span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US">Emotions
        don't make us human, but emotions make us alive." I agree in the
        second part of the sentence. In my opinion,  the virtual "body
        of emotions" is substantially reorganized in each species and
        along its ontogenetic development, and of course it depends on
        gender too (what was called "sex" before the woke cultural
        mutation). Therefore, human emotions would make us human, and
        wolf emotions would make them Canis lupus. Using a computer
        metaphor, emotions "software" would have evolved in accordance
        with the rest of the bodily "hardware", both making possible the
        advancement of a particular life story in the evolutionary
        niche. <br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix"><span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US"
        lang="EN-US"><br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix"><span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US"
        lang="EN-US">In daily life terms, forgetting how cultures mingle
        in our emotional development, </span><span
        style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US">how similar </span><span
        style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US">are man and women
        emotions?  </span>
      <div class="moz-cite-prefix"><span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US"
          lang="EN-US">Also, how similar are the emotions of our pets to
          our own? <br>
        </span></div>
      <div class="moz-cite-prefix"><span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US"
          lang="EN-US"></span><span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US"
          lang="EN-US">People lacking a minimum of emotional background,
          we call them "inhuman"</span><span
          style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US">...</span></div>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix"><span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US"
        lang="EN-US">Best regards,</span></div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix"><span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US"
        lang="EN-US">--Pedro<br>
      </span></div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix"><br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">  El 13/03/2023 a las 12:25, konstantin
      lidin escribió:<br>
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        <span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US">Dear Pedro,<o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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        <span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US">dear
          colleagues,<o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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        <span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US">I continue to
          answer the questions listed in Pedro's letter.<o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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        <span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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        <span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US">2.
          information flows of zettabyte intensity are inherent not only
          to humans. A large amount of information per unit of substance
          is a characteristic feature of the living compared to the
          inanimate. Emotions don't make us human, but emotions make us
          alive.<o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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        <span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US">Regarding the
          individual "pattern" of emotions, I would like to add the
          following:
          <o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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        <span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US">if we add a
          third dimension to the two axes of the Cartesian plane, then
          we will have the opportunity to depict the individual
          characteristics of the emotional sphere of the personality.
          The third dimension is valence (attractiveness) - the
          subjective (individual) experience of emotions by a person. In
          three-dimensional space, we get a certain figure or relief,
          unique for each individual. This relief is also subject to
          changes over time. For example, a healthy and normally
          developing child experiences maximum pleasure from
          experiencing the emotions of the "interest" group. But with
          age, traumas and crises can shift the point of maximum valence
          to other areas of the "space of emotions".<o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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        <span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US">Emotions that
          have the maximum valence for a particular person are called
          "genuine happiness (felicitas)" of that person.<o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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        <span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US">An example of
          an individual relief is shown in the figure:<o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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          style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US"><o:p> <img
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        <span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US">Unfortunately,
          I don't have enough data to draw conclusions about the
          prevalence of certain types of genuine happiness (felicitas).
          Some indication on this score can be obtained by analyzing the
          volumes of markets on which certain emotions are sold.<o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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        <span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US">An
          approximate analysis is shown in Figure 2:<o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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        <span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US">Of course,
          the volume of sales of emotions is influenced not only by
          individual preferences, but also by fashion, advertising and
          other types of social pressure on the individual.<o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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      <div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font style="font-size:11pt"
          face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000"><b>From:</b> Fis
          <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:fis-bounces@listas.unizar.es"><fis-bounces@listas.unizar.es></a> on behalf of Pedro C.
          Marijuán <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:pedroc.marijuan@gmail.com"><pedroc.marijuan@gmail.com></a><br>
          <b>Sent:</b> 11 March 2023 20:52<br>
          <b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:fis@listas.unizar.es">fis@listas.unizar.es</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:fis@listas.unizar.es"><fis@listas.unizar.es></a><br>
          <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fis] emotions</font>
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        <div class="x_moz-cite-prefix">Dear Konstantin and FIS
          Colleagues,</div>
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        <div class="x_moz-cite-prefix">Thanks a lot for all the ideas in
          your initial texts and in the responses. I would like to
          receive some further comments in a few  issues (better if you
          take some time and different days to answer--also to attract
          other parties to the reflection).</div>
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        <div class="x_moz-cite-prefix">First, the James Russell's
          "circumplex model" (1980). That Cartesian diagram of emotions
          you present is an interesting variant of what he published
          involving "arousal" and "valence" as main coordinates. There
          has been quite a few development and changes thereafter, with
          another relevant graphic model by Robert Plutchik (also in
          1980!) known as the "emotion wheel", interesting to discuss
          the combinatoric of emotions. Unfortunately much of the later
          research has gone to describe more and more emotion lists,
          larger and larger ones. So, it is very interesting to see your
          causal model related to the info flow. Although some reference
          to the Connectome and the role of the different areas could
          also be interesting (not only the synapse) to enlarge the
          panorama.<br>
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        <div class="x_moz-cite-prefix">Second, about the life cycle. If
          emotions are what makes us human (which I agree), we would see
          an ontogenetic development of the emotional panoply, according
          to age, gender, and personality, and also with cultural
          modifications or channeling in the expression of emotions.
          This should affect, I think, the configuration of that
          Cartesian diagram. And in this aspect the difference between
          sentiments and emotions has to be clarified regarding also
          their "permanence" in time.
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        <div class="x_moz-cite-prefix">Third, the relationship with
          rationality. Reminding System1 and System2 reaction types
          described by Kahneman, there could be an interesting
          connection with our "identity", guarded by emotions as a sort
          of behavioral "immune system" that tries to preserve our
          fitness. So, System 1 works as an emotional system that helps
          to preserve our immediate maintenance in time, in an innate
          way (like the innate branch of our immune system), later on
          complemented by System 2 "adaptive" mass of experiential
          learning and rationality. In this link with identity, maybe
          the ideas of Sheri Markose and Lou Kauffman could dovetail
          here.
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        <div class="x_moz-cite-prefix">And fourth, I am very interested
          in your application to urbanism (and other related aspects)
          and in general concerning the essential role of emotions in
          our daily life. In particular, the connection with urbanism
          has never been discussed in our list.</div>
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        <div class="x_moz-cite-prefix">Thanks again for your stimulating
          views (I leave the discussion on information metrics &
          dynamics for further exchanges).</div>
        <div class="x_moz-cite-prefix"><br>
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        <div class="x_moz-cite-prefix">Best--Pedro<br>
          <div class="x_moz-cite-prefix"><br>
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        <div class="x_moz-cite-prefix"><br>
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        <div class="x_moz-cite-prefix">El 02/03/2023 a las 14:55,
          konstantin lidin escribió:<br>
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                x_ContentPasted0">You are absolutely right, emotions are
                a powerful tool for understanding a person and the
                world. Unfortunately, they are very little studied (much
                less than cognitions) and mostly remain in the realm of
                the unconscious. The concept of "emotional intelligence"
                is often found in the scientific literature, but it most
                often means only the skill of recognizing basic emotions
                by the facial expression of the interlocutor. Obviously,
                this is absolutely not enough. As a result, emotions are
                often perceived as some kind of "demons" that prevent a
                person from thinking clearly and acting rationally, and
                from which it is desirable to get rid of altogether.</div>
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                x_ContentPasted0">This is very strange and inconvenient,
                especially considering the huge role that emotions play
                in people's behavior and in the economy. We rarely
                realize how much the price of emotions occupies in the
                consumer price of our everyday purchases. Here is an
                illustration - the price of coffee in its "natural"
                form, then the price of coffee preparation services, and
                then the price with the addition of prestige emotions (a
                fashion brand brings valuable emotions from the "joy -
                pride" group).</div>
              In our daily life, spending on emotions accounts for about
              90% of all expenses, and the richer the country, the
              greater this share</div>
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              color="#000000"><b>From:</b> Howard Bloom
              <a class="x_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                href="mailto:howlbloom@aol.com" moz-do-not-send="true"><howlbloom@aol.com></a><br>
              <b>Sent:</b> 02 March 2023 09:29<br>
              <b>To:</b> <a class="x_moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
                href="mailto:lidinkl@hotmail.com" moz-do-not-send="true">
                lidinkl@hotmail.com</a> <a
                class="x_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                href="mailto:lidinkl@hotmail.com" moz-do-not-send="true">
                <lidinkl@hotmail.com></a>; <a
                class="x_moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
                href="mailto:13francesco.rizzo@gmail.com"
                moz-do-not-send="true">
                13francesco.rizzo@gmail.com</a> <a
                class="x_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                href="mailto:13francesco.rizzo@gmail.com"
                moz-do-not-send="true">
                <13francesco.rizzo@gmail.com></a><br>
              <b>Cc:</b> <a class="x_moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
                href="mailto:fis@listas.unizar.es"
                moz-do-not-send="true">
                fis@listas.unizar.es</a> <a
                class="x_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                href="mailto:fis@listas.unizar.es"
                moz-do-not-send="true">
                <fis@listas.unizar.es></a>; <a
                class="x_moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
                href="mailto:roy.morrison114@yahoo.com"
                moz-do-not-send="true">
                roy.morrison114@yahoo.com</a> <a
                class="x_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                href="mailto:roy.morrison114@yahoo.com"
                moz-do-not-send="true">
                <roy.morrison114@yahoo.com></a><br>
              <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fis] emotions</font>
            <div> </div>
          </div>
          <div>
            <div style="color:black; font:14pt
              Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">
              excellent point on the importance of emotions.  and on the
              commercial sale of emotions.
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>i suspect that emotions are our fastest form of
                information processing.  in other words, they have a
                wisdom of their own.</div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>with warmth and oomph--howard<br>
                <br>
                <br>
                <div><font style="font-family:arial,helvetica;
                    font-size:10pt">-----Original Message-----<br>
                    From: konstantin lidin <a
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                      <lidinkl@hotmail.com></a><br>
                    To: Francesco Rizzo <a
                      class="x_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                      href="mailto:13francesco.rizzo@gmail.com"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">
                      <13francesco.rizzo@gmail.com></a><br>
                    Cc: <a class="x_moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
                      href="mailto:fis@listas.unizar.es"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">fis@listas.unizar.es</a>
                    <a class="x_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                      href="mailto:fis@listas.unizar.es"
                      moz-do-not-send="true"><fis@listas.unizar.es></a>;
                    Roy Morrison
                    <a class="x_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                      href="mailto:roy.morrison114@yahoo.com"
                      moz-do-not-send="true"><roy.morrison114@yahoo.com></a><br>
                    Sent: Wed, Mar 1, 2023 1:53 pm<br>
                    Subject: Re: [Fis] emotions<br>
                    <br>
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                          Dear Francesco,
                          <div class="x_x_yiv2999675076ContentPasted0
                            x_x_yiv2999675076elementToProof">indeed, it
                            is difficult to understand such difficult
                            ideas from such a brief message.</div>
                          <div class="x_x_yiv2999675076ContentPasted0
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                          <div class="x_x_yiv2999675076ContentPasted0">For
                            my part, I can add that emotions are a very
                            popular commodity. For example, tourism is
                            the sale of emotions of the "interest"
                            group. Gambling is an industry of emotions
                            of the group "excitement, risk". Cinema
                            produces and sells emotions of a wide range,
                            from "joy - pride" (comedies, family films)
                            to "disgust" (horror and punk films), and so
                            on. All these are market sectors with a
                            turnover of hundreds of billions of USD per
                            year.</div>
                          <div class="x_x_yiv2999675076ContentPasted0">Note
                            also that positive emotions (for example,
                            such a kind of "joy - pride" emotions as
                            prestige) often make up a significant part
                            of wages in some areas.</div>
                          Unfortunately, emotions are still not taken
                          into account in most economic models.<br
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                        <div id="x_x_yiv2999675076yqt73527"
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                          <div dir="ltr"
                            id="x_x_yiv2999675076divRplyFwdMsg"><font
                              style="font-size:11pt" face="Calibri,
                              sans-serif" color="#000000"><b>From:</b> Francesco
                              Rizzo
                              <a class="x_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                                href="mailto:13francesco.rizzo@gmail.com"
                                moz-do-not-send="true"><13francesco.rizzo@gmail.com></a><br
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                              <b>Sent:</b> 01 March 2023 23:49<br
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                              <b>To:</b> konstantin lidin <a
                                class="x_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                                href="mailto:lidinkl@hotmail.com"
                                moz-do-not-send="true">
                                <lidinkl@hotmail.com></a><br
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                              <b>Cc:</b> <a
                                class="x_moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
                                href="mailto:fis@listas.unizar.es"
                                moz-do-not-send="true">fis@listas.unizar.es</a>
                              <a class="x_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                                href="mailto:fis@listas.unizar.es"
                                moz-do-not-send="true"><fis@listas.unizar.es></a>;
                              Roy Morrison
                              <a class="x_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                                href="mailto:roy.morrison114@yahoo.com"
                                moz-do-not-send="true"><roy.morrison114@yahoo.com></a><br
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                              <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fis] emotions</font>
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                              <div>Dear Konstantin, </div>
                              <div>I would like to make the following
                                contribution: in my new economy it is
                                not necessary to separate humanitarian
                                information and natural information,
                                since I adopt a single trans-information
                                process based on the 3 surpluses or
                                thermodynamic, genetic
                                and semiotic-hermeneutic information;
                                that is, a theory of value underlying a
                                single piece of information, consisting
                                in giving or taking shape, measurable in
                                bits of entropy (in natural-rational
                                information and in neg-entropy (in
                                emotional-human communication). So
                                that the flow of information related to
                                emotion, can give rise to what I call
                                emo-rationality. Thank you! Do I have to
                                apologize for my (non)
                                simplicity?Francesco<br clear="none">
                              </div>
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                              Caro Konstantin,
                              <div>desidero dare il seguente contributo:
                                nella mia economia nuova non è
                                necessario separare l'informazione </div>
                              <div>umanitaria e l'informazione naturale,
                                poiché adotto un unico processo di
                                tras-informazione basato sui 3 </div>
                              <div>surplus o informazione termodinamica,
                                genetica e  semiotico-ermeneutica; cioè
                                una teoria del valore sottesa </div>
                              <div>da un'unica informazione, consistente
                                nel dare o nel  prendere forma,
                                misurabile in bit di entropia (nella </div>
                              <div>informazione natural-razionale e in
                                neg-entropia (nella comu  nicazione
                                emozional-umana). Sicchè il flusso di </div>
                              <div>informazioni connesse all'emozione,
                                può dar luogo a quella che io chiamo
                                emo-ra-zionalità. </div>
                              <div>Grazie! Dobbo scusarmi per la mia
                                (non) sempicità?</div>
                              <div>Francesco</div>
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                                class="x_x_yiv2999675076x_gmail_attr">Il
                                giorno mer 1 mar 2023 alle ore 09:11
                                konstantin lidin <<a
                                  href="mailto:lidinkl@hotmail.com"
                                  data-auth="NotApplicable" shape="rect"
                                  moz-do-not-send="true">lidinkl@hotmail.com</a>>
                                ha scritto:<br clear="none">
                              </div>
                              <blockquote
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                                  <div
                                    style="font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;
                                    font-size:12pt">the calculation of
                                    the amount of information contained
                                    in one human personality is based on
                                    the following considerations:
                                    <div>the number of nitrogenous bases
                                      in a DNA molecule is 3.2 billion.
                                      Each base contains two bits of
                                      information. In total, the amount
                                      of information in one DNA molecule
                                      is about a gigabyte (10^9);</div>
                                    <div>all cells of the human body are
                                      different and, therefore, the
                                      information in each cell does not
                                      coincide with the information in
                                      other cells. Therefore, the amount
                                      of information in the body needs
                                      to be multiplied by the number of
                                      cells - about 10 ^ 14;</div>
                                    <div>the total is 10 ^ 23 bytes,
                                      that is, one hundred zettabytes.
                                      Even considering that 99% of
                                      cellular information is repeated,
                                      the amount of unique information
                                      in a living organism is
                                      zettabytes. It is the amount of
                                      information per unit of mass that
                                      is the fundamental difference
                                      between a living organism and an
                                      inanimate one.</div>
                                    <div><br clear="none">
                                    </div>
                                    <div>Our model can be useful for the
                                      study of intrapsychic processes.
                                      Unfortunately, the format of a
                                      short message does not allow us to
                                      fully describe all the results
                                      obtained over twenty-five years of
                                      development of this model.</div>
                                    <div>You are absolutely right; the
                                      human personality is complex
                                      enough that its individual
                                      fragments can experience different
                                      emotions at the same time. A
                                      person can simultaneously
                                      experience fear of a shark,
                                      tenderness and trust in it,
                                      sadness from his loneliness in the
                                      middle of an endless ocean, and so
                                      on.</div>
                                    <div><br clear="none">
                                    </div>
                                    <div>The role of hormones and
                                      neurotransmitters in the movement
                                      of information through the nervous
                                      system has not been sufficiently
                                      studied.  The processes occurring
                                      in the synaptic cleft are
                                      associated with the adaptation of
                                      the nervous system to the nature
                                      of the flow of information. The
                                      balance of neurotransmitters in
                                      the synaptic cleft corresponds to
                                      the characteristics of the
                                      information flow - for example,
                                      adrenaline promotes the passage of
                                      chaotic flows (emotion "fear"),
                                      and gamma-aminobutyric acid
                                      "adjusts" the nervous system to
                                      weak information flows (sadness).</div>
                                    Rapid and strong changes in the
                                    balance of neurotransmitters
                                    correspond to "emotional storms",
                                    which is so characteristic of young
                                    poets...<br clear="none">
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id="x_x_yiv2999675076x_m_-6765008708301074978m_8399411625045521235m_-5083224514283971032divRplyFwdMsg"><font
                                      style="font-size:11pt"
                                      face="Calibri, sans-serif"
                                      color="#000000"><b>From:</b> Roy
                                      Morrison <<a
                                        href="mailto:roy.morrison114@yahoo.com"
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                                      <b>Sent:</b> 01 March 2023 06:54<br
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                                      <b>To:</b> <a
                                        href="mailto:fis@listas.unizar.es"
                                        data-auth="NotApplicable"
                                        shape="rect"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">fis@listas.unizar.es</a> <<a
href="mailto:fis@listas.unizar.es" data-auth="NotApplicable"
                                        shape="rect"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">fis@listas.unizar.es</a>>;
                                      konstantin lidin <<a
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                                      <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fis] emotions</font>
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                                        <div dir="ltr">Konstantin</div>
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                                      </div>
                                      <div dir="ltr">I powerful and
                                        important take on emotions as
                                        experience of information flow. </div>
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                                      </div>
                                      <div dir="ltr">Really appreciate "<span
                                          style="font-family:New;
                                          text-indent:47.2667px">In
                                          turn, we understand
                                          information as a structural
                                          aspect of the existence of
                                          matter, along with the
                                          inertial aspect (substance)
                                          and the dynamic aspect
                                          (energy). We believe that
                                          information is no less
                                          material than matter and
                                          energy. "</span></div>
                                      <div dir="ltr"><span
                                          style="font-family:New;
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                                        </span></div>
                                      <div dir="ltr"><span
                                          style="font-family:New;
                                          text-indent:47.2667px"> and</span></div>
                                      <div dir="ltr"><span
                                          style="font-family:New;
                                          text-indent:47.2667px"><br
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                                        </span></div>
                                      <div dir="ltr"><span
                                          style="font-family:New;
                                          text-indent:47.2667px"><span
                                            style="text-indent:47.2667px">"The
                                            total amount of information
                                            contained on all media in
                                            all libraries, archives and
                                            other repositories of
                                            mankind is about a zettabyte
                                            (10^23 bits). About the same
                                            amount of information
                                            contains one human
                                            personality."</span><br
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                                        </span></div>
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                                          text-indent:47.2667px"><span
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                                          </span></span></div>
                                      <div dir="ltr"><span
                                          style="text-indent:47.2667px"><span
style="text-indent:47.2667px">    From my experience as a lunatic, ok as
                                            a neurotic, the complexity
                                            of emotion is complicated by
                                            issues of  what is
                                            conscious/ repressed/
                                            unconscious.</span></span></div>
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                                      </div>
                                      <div dir="ltr"
                                        style="text-indent:47.2667px"><span
                                          style="text-indent:47.2667px">Your
                                          model making distinctions
                                          between Order-Chaos and Weak
                                          flow- Intense Flow does not
                                          fully explain issues of
                                          unconscious roiling repression
                                          this is driven in part by
                                          hormonal emotional activation
                                          and repression. At the same
                                          time I recognize the common
                                          and shared emotional
                                          expression we share across
                                          species. </span><br
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                                      </div>
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                                        style="text-indent:47.2667px">Watching
                                        video of a fisherman who saved a
                                        great white shark trapped it
                                        nets. The shark keep returning
                                        to the fishman's small boat for
                                        days. Shark rolled on her? back
                                        next to his boat so he could
                                        spoke her belly to her great
                                        pleasure.Evolutionary we share 
                                        common emotional expression and
                                        the similar brain chemicals.</div>
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                                        style="text-indent:47.2667px"><br
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                                      <div dir="ltr"
                                        style="text-indent:47.2667px">Roy</div>
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Fis mailing list
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<a class="x_moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://listas.unizar.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fis" moz-do-not-send="true">http://listas.unizar.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fis</a>
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INFORMACIÓN SOBRE PROTECCIÓN DE DATOS DE CARÁCTER PERSONAL

Ud. recibe este correo por pertenecer a una lista de correo gestionada por la Universidad de Zaragoza.
Puede encontrar toda la información sobre como tratamos sus datos en el siguiente enlace: <a class="x_moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://sicuz.unizar.es/informacion-sobre-proteccion-de-datos-de-caracter-personal-en-listas" moz-do-not-send="true">https://sicuz.unizar.es/informacion-sobre-proteccion-de-datos-de-caracter-personal-en-listas</a>
Recuerde que si está suscrito a una lista voluntaria Ud. puede darse de baja desde la propia aplicación en el momento en que lo desee.
<a class="x_moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://listas.unizar.es" moz-do-not-send="true">http://listas.unizar.es</a>
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