<div style="color:black;font: 14pt Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">joe, love this:<br>
<div style="font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:10pt;color:black"><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid blue; padding-left: 3px;">“it’s not the information in my life but the life in my information that counts!”</blockquote></div>
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<span style="font-size: 18.6667px;">with warmth and oomph--howard</span><br>
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From: konstantin lidin <lidinkl@hotmail.com><br>
To: joe.brenner@bluewin.ch <joe.brenner@bluewin.ch>; fis@listas.unizar.es <fis@listas.unizar.es>; 'Roy Morrison' <roy.morrison114@yahoo.com><br>
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Subject: Re: [Fis] emotions. Mae West<br>
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<div class="yiv3096562661ContentPasted1">I agree with you that a materialistic approach to the study of information and emotions can be useful in a variety of fields of scientific knowledge. But I prefer to assert something concrete only where I have reliable practical
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<div class="yiv3096562661ContentPasted1">In the field of image analysis and synthesis (mainly in architecture and design) I have such experience.</div>
You can watch the presentation of my lecture at this link, there are beautiful pictures there))))</div>
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<b>To:</b> 'konstantin lidin' <lidinkl@hotmail.com>; fis@listas.unizar.es <fis@listas.unizar.es>; 'Roy Morrison' <roy.morrison114@yahoo.com><br clear="none">
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Fis] emotions. Mae West</font>
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<span style="font-family:sans-serif;">Thank you for these two brief but fascinating insights into your work and your approach to life. To paraphrase Mae West, “it’s not the information in my life but the life in my information that counts!”</span></div>
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<span style="font-family:sans-serif;">If anything, I find one conclusion of your theory too modest: I think it permits much more philosophically and scientifically than just building “quantitative models for the analysis and synthesis of images”.
It may open a path to rigorous <i>qualitative </i>models and the logical oppositions in real processes, emotional and others.
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<b>From:</b> Fis <fis-bounces@listas.unizar.es> <b>On Behalf Of </b>konstantin lidin<br clear="none">
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, March 1, 2023 9:10 AM<br clear="none">
<b>To:</b> fis@listas.unizar.es; Roy Morrison <roy.morrison114@yahoo.com><br clear="none">
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fis] emotions</div>
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;">the calculation of the amount of information contained in one human personality is based on the following considerations:
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;">the number of nitrogenous bases in a DNA molecule is 3.2 billion. Each base contains two bits of information. In total, the amount of information in one DNA molecule is about a gigabyte (10^9);</span></div>
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;">all cells of the human body are different and, therefore, the information in each cell does not coincide with the information in other cells. Therefore, the amount of information in the body needs to be multiplied
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;">the total is 10 ^ 23 bytes, that is, one hundred zettabytes. Even considering that 99% of cellular information is repeated, the amount of unique information in a living organism is zettabytes. It is the amount of
information per unit of mass that is the fundamental difference between a living organism and an inanimate one.</span></div>
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;">Our model can be useful for the study of intrapsychic processes. Unfortunately, the format of a short message does not allow us to fully describe all the results obtained over twenty-five years of development of this
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;">You are absolutely right; the human personality is complex enough that its individual fragments can experience different emotions at the same time. A person can simultaneously experience fear of a shark, tenderness
and trust in it, sadness from his loneliness in the middle of an endless ocean, and so on.</span></div>
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;">The role of hormones and neurotransmitters in the movement of information through the nervous system has not been sufficiently studied. The processes occurring in the synaptic cleft are associated with the adaptation
of the nervous system to the nature of the flow of information. The balance of neurotransmitters in the synaptic cleft corresponds to the characteristics of the information flow - for example, adrenaline promotes the passage of chaotic flows (emotion "fear"),
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;">Rapid and strong changes in the balance of neurotransmitters correspond to "emotional storms", which is so characteristic of young poets...</span></div>
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<b><span style="color:black;">From:</span></b><span style="color:black;"> Roy Morrison <<a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:roy.morrison114@yahoo.com" href="mailto:roy.morrison114@yahoo.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">roy.morrison114@yahoo.com</a>><br clear="none">
<b>Sent:</b> 01 March 2023 06:54<br clear="none">
<b>To:</b> <a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:fis@listas.unizar.es" href="mailto:fis@listas.unizar.es" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">fis@listas.unizar.es</a> <<a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:fis@listas.unizar.es" href="mailto:fis@listas.unizar.es" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">fis@listas.unizar.es</a>>; konstantin lidin <<a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:lidinkl@hotmail.com" href="mailto:lidinkl@hotmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">lidinkl@hotmail.com</a>><br clear="none">
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;">I powerful and important take on emotions as experience of information flow. </span></div>
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;">Really appreciate "</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:serif;color:black;">In turn, we understand information as a structural aspect of the existence of matter, along with
the inertial aspect (substance) and the dynamic aspect (energy). We believe that information is no less material than matter and energy. "</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;"></span></div>
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:serif;color:black;">"The total amount of information contained on all media in all libraries, archives and other repositories of mankind is about a zettabyte (10^23 bits). About the same amount of information
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;"> From my experience as a lunatic, ok as a neurotic, the complexity of emotion is complicated by issues of what is conscious/ repressed/ unconscious.</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;"></span></div>
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;">Your model making distinctions between Order-Chaos and Weak flow- Intense Flow does not fully explain issues of unconscious roiling repression this is driven in part by hormonal emotional activation
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;">Watching video of a fisherman who saved a great white shark trapped it nets. The shark keep returning to the fishman's small boat for days. Shark rolled on her? back next to his boat so he could
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<div class="yqt7065410758" id="yqtfd68490" style=""><font face="arial, helvetica" size="2">Former Visiting Scholar, Graduate Psychology Department, New York University, Former Core Faculty Member, The Graduate Institute; Current Kepler Space University Senior Scholar.</font></div>
<div class="yqt7065410758" id="yqtfd68490" style=""><font face="arial, helvetica" size="2">Founder: International Paleopsychology Project. Founder, Space Development Steering Committee. Member Of Board Of Governors, National Space Society. Founding Board Member: Epic of Evolution Society. Founding Board Member, The Darwin Project.</font></div>
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