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<p>Dear Francesco,</p>
<p>I agree with your intuition, but more general and objective than
<b>"information is TAKING shape by someone or something"</b> is "<b>information
is an interaction or contrast between considered objects. </b><br>
</p>
<p>Our reality is composed of entities (objects, features,
structures) that we can somehow distinguish. These structures
interact with each other through common and differentiating
features, that is through contrast. The common features cause the
different features to be compared/combined. This creates a
tension, which is the very essence of any interaction. One can
easily verify that this is what every interaction in nature,
whether physical or mental, is based on. <br>
</p>
<p> The Gregory Bateson's famous definition: (A unit of) <b>Information
is a Difference that Makes a Difference is similar but not
precise</b> because only differences does not exist (without
common features), there are only contrasts/interactions.
Until today contrast is incorrectly understood as a big difference
and there is no understanding/definition of interaction.</p>
<p>Below is more about contrast:<br>
</p>
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<![endif]--><span style="font-family:"Times New
Roman",serif;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-GB">Let’s
consider what makes this definition different from existing
general definitions
of contrast? For example, in French dictionary contrast is
defined as: “<span style="mso-bidi-font-weight:normal">opposition
(contradistinction) between two
or more things, emphasized and highlighted by their closeness
or a mutual
relationship</span>”? </span><span
style="font-family:"Times New
Roman",serif;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-GB">In
the first place, the new definition enables to analyze contrast
which is
understood here as the impact of varying value (contrast may be
stronger or
weaker), whereas existing definitions describe contrast as some
extreme value:
opposition, contradiction or a major distinction.</span><span
style="font-family:"Times New
Roman",serif;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-GB"></span><span
style="font-family:"Times New
Roman",serif;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-GB"><br>
</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"Times New
Roman",serif;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-GB">The
second modification is that we take into account common features
of contrasting
objects, which, just like differentiating features, may differ
in terms of
impact power and effect they have on the magnitude of contrast.</span><span
style="font-family:"Times New
Roman",serif;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-GB"><br>
</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"Times New
Roman",serif;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-GB">The
third change has to do with the nature of contrast being
understood as tension
resulting from the impacts of common and differentiating
features.</span><span style="font-family:"Times New
Roman",serif;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-GB"></span><span
style="font-family:"Times New
Roman",serif;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-GB"><br>
</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"Times New
Roman",serif;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-GB">And
the fourth change is that contrast so far has been understood as
a big
difference or contradiction, and, in consequence, it took into
account only one
feature (one quality) of contrasting objects – it is the
opposition within the
same feature (for example: small-large or light-dark). The new
definition of
contrast takes into account all features of contrasting objects
(all common and
differentiating features) and thus takes into account the <span
style="mso-bidi-font-weight:bold">diversity and complexity of
objects. </span></span>
</p>
<p>Best regards<br>
</p>
<p>Mariusz<br>
</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">W dniu 25.01.2023 o 08:13, Francesco
Rizzo pisze:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:CAEvKwyQ-R0updiisn4uCMWnhWOOJU2O5JSX=0H0bgQY_9KADvg@mail.gmail.com">
<meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8">
<div dir="ltr">
<div>Dear Mariusz, I agree with what you wrote, because it
coincides with what I have written repeatedly in the Fis
discussions. However, I suggest, once again, to define
information as a TAKING shape by someone or something,
abstractly or concretely or as a GIVING shape to someone or
something, abstractly or concretely. All the appreciated
examples you listed are nothing more than values-concepts of
different forms or forms of different values-concepts.
Values-concepts that are transformed, giving rise to what I
call processes of trans-into-form-action. Congratulations and
best wishes. </div>
<div>Francesco.<br>
</div>
<div>Caro Mariusz,<br>
</div>
<div>condivido quanto hai scritto, perchè coincide con quanto ho
scritto ripetute volte nelle discussioni Fis. Tuttavia
suggerisco, </div>
<div>ancora una volta, di definire l'informazione come un
PRENDERE forma da parte di qualcuno o qualcosa, in astratto o
in concreto</div>
<div> oppure come un DARE forma a qualcuno o qualcosa, in
astratto o in concreto. Tutti gli apprezzati esempi che hai
elencato, non </div>
<div>sono altro che dei valori-concetti delle diverse forme o
delle forme dei diversi valori-concetti. Valori-concetti che
si tras-formano </div>
<div>dando luogo a quelli che io chiamo processi di
tras-in-form-azione.</div>
<div>Complimenti e saluti augurali.</div>
<div>Francesco.</div>
</div>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Il giorno mar 24 gen 2023 alle
ore 16:17 Mariusz Stanowski <<a
href="mailto:stanowskimariusz@wp.pl" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">stanowskimariusz@wp.pl</a>>
ha scritto:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px
0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div>
<p>You are right, it should be "can represent" or "can be
considered" instead of "is".<br>
</p>
<div>Thank you! <br>
</div>
<div>Mariusz<br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">
<p> </p>
<p><br>
</p>
<div>W dniu 24.01.2023 o 15:25, Alex Hankey pisze:<br>
</div>
<div dir="ltr">
<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:"times new
roman",serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(11,83,148)">How
about:</div>
<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:"times new
roman",serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(11,83,148)"><b>A<span>nything
that can be distinguished in any way can
represent <span></span><b>I<span>nformation </span></b></span></b><br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:"times new
roman",serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(11,83,148)">I
LIKE Your Approach, Maiuscz, Thanks!<br>
</div>
</div>
<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
</div>
<div>W dniu 24.01.2023 o 14:00, Mariusz Stanowski pisze:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<p><br>
</p>
<div>
<p>Hello,</p>
<blockquote type="cite">
<p
style="line-height:normal;background:white;vertical-align:baseline">
<span>I would like to take the opportunity to share
a definition of information that is general enough
to reconcile existing definitions and
understandings of information, including
ontological and epistemological information. I
would appreciate Your questions and comments.</span></p>
<p
style="line-height:normal;background:white;vertical-align:baseline">
<span> </span><b>I<span>nformation is anything that
can be distinguish in any way</span></b><span>
(both in and out of the mind and also in a
mind-dependent and mind-independent way). </span></p>
<p
style="line-height:normal;background:white;vertical-align:baseline">
<span> Examples of information:</span></p>
<p
style="line-height:normal;background:white;vertical-align:baseline">
<span>Information as a feature - size (e.g. of a
tree)</span></p>
<p
style="line-height:normal;background:white;vertical-align:baseline">
<span>Information as form - shape (e.g. of a stone)</span></p>
<p
style="line-height:normal;background:white;vertical-align:baseline">
<span>Information as an object - a stone </span></p>
<p
style="line-height:normal;background:white;vertical-align:baseline">
<span>Information as an abstract concept - e.g.
whiteness</span></p>
<p
style="line-height:normal;background:white;vertical-align:baseline">
<span>Information as structure - e.g. any
distinguishable regularity in a binary structure</span></p>
<p
style="line-height:normal;background:white;vertical-align:baseline">
<span> Any information interacts, so it must have
energy. E.g. a binary structure must have
ones-impulses of energy and their absence - zeros.</span><span
style="font-size:18pt;color:black"> </span><span
style="color:black">Structures </span><span>in
our mind are also equipped with energy.</span></p>
<br>
</blockquote>
Best regards
<p>Mariusz Stanowski</p>
<p><br>
</p>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>W dniu 24.01.2023 o 10:59, <a
href="mailto:joe.brenner@bluewin.ch" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">joe.brenner@bluewin.ch</a>
pisze:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite"> Dear All,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>The last two messages, taken together, make a lot
of sense: Howard's definition has the merit of
simplicity, and Konstantin's necessary extension
introduces the question of quality.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>The only way I have found to answer it is to relax
several abusive absolute dichotomies, in particular,
that between 1) subjective and objective and 2) of
their total separation.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>In any specific case, I assume that the terms
differ in degree of actuality and potentiality, not
only, say, information and noise, relevancy and
non-relevancy and similar pairs.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>This approach excludes, however, talking about
information at the level of quarks and their
"associations" since nothing is added to the basic
physics. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Thank you and best wishes,</div>
<div>Joseph<br>
<blockquote style="margin-right:0px;margin-left:15px">----Original
Message----<br>
From : <a href="mailto:lidinkl@hotmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">lidinkl@hotmail.com</a><br>
Date : 24/01/2023 - 08:33 (E)<br>
To : <a href="mailto:fis@listas.unizar.es"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">fis@listas.unizar.es</a>,
<a href="mailto:loet@leydesdorff.net"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">loet@leydesdorff.net</a>,
<a href="mailto:howlbloom@aol.com" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">howlbloom@aol.com</a><br>
Subject : Re: [Fis] definitions of information by
Theil (1972) derived from Shnnon (1948); back to the
basics?<br>
<br>
<div
style="font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
Thank you, Howard.
<div> Your definition of information practically
coincides with Shannon's definition, only
elementary (sub-elementary) particles act as
inductors and recipients. </div>
<div> In the next step, however, this approach
leads us to the notion of information quality. A
message can contain both a signal (relevant
information) and noise. But the notion of
relevance of information is subjective.
Relevance is compliance with the goals that the
inductor-recipient pair sets when exchanging
information. </div>
<div> Do you think quarks and protons have goals
and free will? </div>
This is a very important question, because in most
areas, except for the Shannon theory of
communication, the quality of information is
ignored. The subjectivity of this parameter looks
too shocking to include it in a decent academic
model (about the same way the Heisenberg
uncertainty principle is still perceived) <br>
</div>
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dir="ltr"> <font style="font-size:11pt"
face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000"><b>From:</b>
Howard Bloom <a href="mailto:howlbloom@aol.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><howlbloom@aol.com></a><br>
<b>Sent:</b> 24 January 2023 08:21<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:lidinkl@hotmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
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information by Theil (1972) derived from Shnnon
(1948); back to the basics?</font>
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<div style="color:black;font:14pt
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definition of information in my book The God
Problem: How a Godless Cosmos Creates:
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<div> information is anything a sender emits
that a receiver can interpret. </div>
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<div> the first information appears when the
first quarks emerge in the first 10-34 of a
second of the big bang. quarks read each
other's social signals of attraction or
repulsion and acted on them to gang up in
groups of two or three, thus forming protons
and neutrons, which also gave off social
signals and agglomerated in proton-neutron
teams. </div>
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<div> <span style="font-size:18.6667px">with
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Unfortunately, Shannon's definition
can only be used in a very narrow
class of cases. When we consider any
process other than the transmission
of a message from the inductor to
the recipient, this definition does
not work.
<div> The most authoritative
researchers of the philosophy of
information admit that there is
still no general definition. The
concepts of information in
different spheres differ
significantly and cannot be
combined into something commonly
used </div>
Baumgaertner, B., Floridi, L.
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definitions of information by
Theil (1972) derived from Shnnon
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<div> Theil (1972) pp. 1 and 2: </div>
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<b><i><span
style="font-size:9.5pt;letter-spacing:0.45pt">1.1.
</span></i></b> <b><i><span
style="font-size:9.5pt;letter-spacing:0.45pt">Information</span></i></b>
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<span
style="font-size:10.5pt">Consider
an event <i>E </i>with
probability <i>p; </i>
the nature of the event is
irrelevant. At some point
in time we receive a
reliable message stating
that <i>E </i>in fact
occurred. The question is:
How should one measure the
amount of information
conveyed by this message?</span>
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<i><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;letter-spacing:-0.35pt">Information</span></i>
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<span
style="font-size:10.5pt;letter-spacing:-0.1pt">Since
the question is vague, we
shall try to answer it in
an intuitive manner.
Suppose that <i>p </i>is
close to 1 (e.g., <i>p =
</i>.95). Then, one may
argue, the message conveys
very little information,
because it was virtually
certain that <i>E w</i>ould
take place. But suppose
that <i>p = .01, </i>so
that it is almost certain
<i>E </i>will not occur.
If <i>E </i>nevertheless
does occur, the message
stating this will be
unexpected and hence
contains a great deal of
information.</span> </div>
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<div> <span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"New
serif"">These intuitive
ideas suggest that, if we
want to measure the
information derived from a
message in terms of the
probability </span> <i
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"New
serif"">p </i> <span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"New serif"">that
prevailed before or to the
arrival of the message, we
should select a </span> <i
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"New serif"">decreasing </i>
<span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"New
serif"">function. The
function proposed by SHANNON
(1948) is </span> <span
style="font-family:New;font-size:10pt">when
the probability prior to the
message is zero) to 0 (zero
information when the
probability is one).</span>
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</span> </div>
<div> <span
style="font-family:New;font-size:10pt">The
unit of information is
determined by the base of
the logarithm. Frequently 2
is used as a base, which
implies that any message
concerning a 50-50 event has
unit information: h() = log</span>
<span
style="font-family:New;font-size:7pt"><sub>2</sub></span>
<span
style="font-family:New;font-size:10pt">2
= 1, and information is then
said to be measured in
binary digits or, for short,
</span> <i><span
style="font-family:New;font-size:10pt">bits.
</span></i> <span
style="font-family:New;font-size:10pt">When
natural logarithms are used,
the information unit is a </span>
<i><span
style="font-family:New;font-size:10pt">nit. </span></i>
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