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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Dear All,</div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">I will develop a couple of aspects,
from Plamen and from Ted. Hopefully they may be interconnected.</div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">In my modest opinion it was a great
idea to bring the monastic system paradigm at the beginning of the
NY Lecture. The change of mind in the historiography about those
(dark???) times and the role of monasteries has been radical. From
classics such as Lynn White and Lewis Mumford, to more recent
David Noble, James Hannan, Rodney Stark, Tom Holland, Nancy M.
Brown, Thomas Cahill, etc etc. (some authors in Spanish too, which
I do not consign). One of the most interesting points is that the
monasteries followed an inner organization of knowledge from late
Roman times: the trivium and the quadrivium. They constituted the
"Liberal Arts". It was not bad for connecting with the religious
views, but there was not a single word on a "dishonest" activity:
physical & technical work. So, for the "ora et labora", only
the former religious/intellectual aspect was dignified. Not the
latter. Until one of the monastic figures, Hugh of St Victor in
his Didascalicon, decided to dignify the crucial technical
activities of monasteries. The " 7 Mechanical Arts" parallel to
the 7 liberal arts were born... So, in our own terms, <u>they
solved an important imbalance, cultural and intellectual,
between the "sciences" of the time and the applied
"technologies". </u> The success of the term was impressive, we
are still talking, centuries later, about "Mechanics".</div>
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<p>We suffer nowadays another strong imbalance between
hyper-developed computer and AI techs (Web, social networks,
robotics, etc.) and some infra-developed, scarcely coherent
scientific fields--missing a parallel information body which could
bring a new understanding and consistency. How could this
imbalance be solved? Ted speaks about different historical
possibilities that could have transcended the limitations, so to
speak, generated from the reductionist cradle. He mentions the
"information flow". Indeed, for decades, several people, Ted and
me included, have been influenced by the "vertical information
flow" from Michael Conrad. I am currently thinking that it has
been a nice & elegant term, but it badly needed a further step
or steps. Otherwise it was acting as a limit for further
advancement. In my opinion, the information flow, in each
dimensional jump, crosses through "transformers" that reorganize
and transform it, leaving it ready for the next jump. A firm
candidate to such transforming capability is "the cycle" --I think
Koichiro may resonate with this. The cycle, either "natural" or
"artificial", becomes an arrangement that may integrate (or
alternative disintegrate) masses of data into a meaningful item.
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Best wishes to all,</div>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">--Pedro<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix"> El 09/01/2023 a las 9:43, Dr. Plamen
L. Simeonov escribió:<br>
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Ted,</div>
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(7,55,99)">you
have always surprised me with your original, unorthodox
approach to finding solutions.</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Jan 8, 2023 at 1:11
AM Ted Goranson <<a href="mailto:tedgoranson@me.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">tedgoranson@me.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Plamen
— <br>
<br>
I am a bit surprised how this has begun, based on our many
conversations about how modern institutions are broken.</blockquote>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px
0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">My
proclivaty would be to review history with an eye to where
we went wrong. If we can sort out the way we think about the
world through accidents of civilization, from more
fundamental mechanisms, then we can revisit some of those
accidents.<br>
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(7,55,99)">Yes,
accidents/anomalies/surprises are turning/inflection
points in history. Important events with a priori
uncertain outcome or such that ended against the
expectations. Also small events with big impact. I can
recall at least a dozen of them like Constantine’s victory
in the battle of the Milvian Bridge in 312 AD that brought
us to where we are now in this (shared view of the)
universe. Perhaps an AI-based TDA tool could
systematically explore the huge set of historical data to
find and classify such events that changed history. Also
interesting conclusions like those of the existence of
supreme powers or destiny could be made in such an
analysis.</div>
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<div> </div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px
0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">A
general candidate is how civilisation spawned the notion of
ownership, so our mathematical abstractions migrated to
properties and numbers of objects, and thence to commerce
and concepts of value. </blockquote>
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(7,55,99)">This
is an important remark too, but I don't know if we can
change this foundation in the way the WEF ideology currently
promotes: to own nothing and be happy?</div>
<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(7,55,99)">Ownership
is not an only human characteristic. Wild animals are
marking their territory too. Our stone age ancestors would
not be pleased to share their cave with a family of bears. </div>
<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(7,55,99)"><br>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px
0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">These
notions of thingness, tense and numeration are assumed to be
fundamental, and we build our abstractions of agency and
thence information flow on these. But I hold that this is an
accident of history.<br>
</blockquote>
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<div class="gmail_default"><font
style="font-family:arial,sans-serif" color="#073763">Oliver
Heaviside said: "<i>Mathematics is an experimental science
and definitions do not come first, but later on. </i><span
style="caret-color: rgb(32, 33, 36);"><i>They make
themselves, when the nature of the subject has
developed itself.</i></span></font><font face="arial,
sans-serif" color="#073763"><span style="caret-color:
rgb(32, 33, 36);">” I am inclined to share his view. </span></font></div>
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style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><font color="#073763"><span
style="caret-color: rgb(32, 33, 36);"><br>
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0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br>
I do modelling professionally as you know, and have my own
views on where things went wrong in my discipline. Thomas
Harriot is a godfather of abstract representation in my
story. He published little because he was constantly being
accused of heresy. </blockquote>
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<div><span
style="color:rgb(7,55,99);font-family:arial,sans-serif">Interesting
reference.</span><br>
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(7,55,99)">Mayne
you can find more of his writings here: <a
href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://echo.mpiwg-berlin.mpg.de/content/scientific_revolution/harriot__;!!D9dNQwwGXtA!VCu1M2dfm5745omNA3V8fc1N_612iJD6CPNs2Ekhf9IjJcJNLl8Jai8MoL6ued711_SA5rrfpCytppytRDMye9mzDfMR$"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://echo.mpiwg-berlin.mpg.de/content/scientific_revolution/harriot</a>.</div>
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style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(7,55,99)"><br>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px
0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">For
example, he wintered with a specific trading group of native
americans in 1585–86 and reported that they had a coherent
world view — described in kaballistic terms — but without a
Jesus. He saw creatures not enumerated in the bible and
therefore officially could not exist.<br>
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(7,55,99)">Yes,
without breaking rules and dogmas science would not be what
it is today.</div>
<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(7,55,99)">Here
is where also language in native cultures comes. Have you
read David Peat’s “Blackfoot Physics”?</div>
<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(7,55,99)">But
this has become a much broader subject now. </div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px
0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br>
His nuanced notion of equality/equivalence may have been
profoundly more useful for us today — what we have called
introspective intuitionistic phenomenalism using modern
labels. </blockquote>
<div><br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(7,55,99)">Yes.
But why not reintroducing it?</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px
0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">But
Newton overrode that notion with a simpler enumerable
equality. That’s an inflection point that has crippled us, </blockquote>
<div><br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(7,55,99)">Definitely.
This happened many time in many fields. That’s why we have
to examine these foundations and reintroduce lost concepts.</div>
<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(7,55,99)"><br>
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px
0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">I
believe. I think there may be many others, and it takes a
Kolmogorov or Voevodsky to see around those limiting
abstractions.<br>
</blockquote>
<div><br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(7,55,99)">Can
we change the direction of history by correcting and
reinventing science?</div>
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0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br>
So, I would see simple assumptions about the written word,
spiritual ‘truth', and deistic agency more as problems than
something to celebrate and honour, well before we note
governing conventions (rulers, slaves, taxes, and state
religions). If we assume that there are better ways to think
about the world (and information flow is central to that),
we have to think about why we aren’t naturally already
there. Some of these great men hurt us by developing
attractive abstractions.<br>
</blockquote>
<div><br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(7,55,99)">So,
you question the entire approach to search back for
lessons/recipes/patterns about how to solve the crises we
experience today with a distinct historical period and
focus? I don’t mind. This is valid, although it changes the
subject of the discussion. What you suggest is a good
candidate for another discussion topic. The great men who
hurt us continue doing so. Perhaps we should get rid of
their agency first.</div>
<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(7,55,99)"><br>
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(7,55,99)">Best,</div>
<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(7,55,99)"><br>
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(7,55,99)">Plamen</div>
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style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(7,55,99)"><br>
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0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br>
— Ted<br>
_______________<br>
Ted Goranson<br>
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> On 8 Jan 2023, at 8:40 am, Dai Griffiths <<a
href="mailto:dai.griffiths.1@gmail.com" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">dai.griffiths.1@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
> <br>
> Dear Plamen,<br>
> I agree that it is important to recognise the value of
monastic culture in the ‘dark ages’ and medieval period, and
its continuing influence on Western culture. As you point
out, in many ways the Catholic church is a continuation of
the Roman Empire by other means (a man in a robe sits on a
throne in Rome and issues commands). However, I am
unconvinced that this is the entirely positive thing that
you seem to suggest. Indeed, you mention that “Holland,
France and England became colonial powers dominating the sea
trade, yet at the price of slavery and exploiting the native
population”, and slavery was certainly an example set by the
Roman Empire. More generally, the Roman Empire was built on
central authority and power, and the Catholic Church was
constructed on these foundations, grafting them onto the
decentralised and contemplative traditions of the early
church. Intuitively, most people within traditionally
Christian countries assume, with Pelagius (c. 354–418), that
you get into heaven by doing good things. But this is not
compatible with an imperial church, as you no longer need
priests to achieve salvation, and hence have no authority or
power over the population. Augustine succeeded in winning
the argument with Pelagius, and establishing the doctrine of
original sin, which can only be overcome through the grace
of God, which is transmitted through priests. Hence infants
need to be baptised to avoid being condemned to purgatory
until the second coming. This is the doctrinal mechanism
whereby imperial authority was maintained by the church.
Unsurprisingly, Pelagius was condemned as a heretic. It is
worth meditating on this a little: “If you live a good life
you go to heaven” is heretical to the Catholic Church. I
certainly find the implications to be horrendous.<br>
> As a Welsh person, I am aware of Pelagius because he
was a Celt (Wales, Ireland and Brittany compete for the
honour or infamy of being his birthplace). The Celtic church
was monastic (think of the Book of Kells), and in Wales it
was a direct continuation of the Roman church in Roman
occupied Britain. The Welsh church maintained a
decentralised, Pelagian tradition until the annexation of
Wales by the English in 1534. So there is nothing inevitable
about the imperial nature of the church.<br>
> In 1276 Ramon Llull established a monastic school in
Mallorca, five kilometres from where I am typing these words
(see <a
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). There, the students (Franciscan Minors) studied Arabic,
and I believe also Greek and Hebrew, in line with Llull’s
belief that the three ‘peoples of the book’ (Christians,
Muslims and Jews) could be reconciled through learning and
logical discourse. For his efforts Llull was excommunicated
by the church, and conversion in Christianity and Islam
remained linked to imperial conquest. Current events in
Israel, Nigeria, and other countries are illustrating the
consequences of failing to attend to his vision. In our time
I have found Karen Armstrong’s writing valuable in
underlining the common foundations of the major religions.<br>
> I believe these examples help us “recognize the
patterns that let us down before and now” which you mention.
They help us consider how the Christian church in general,
and monasticism in particular, could have evolved if
Christianity had not taken on the trappings and political
imperatives of the Roman Empire. The benefits of monasticism
which you describe could still have been achieved, and
perhaps we could have sidestepped some of the most noxious
manifestations of authoritarian social structures and the
“clash of civilizations”. <br>
> <br>
> On Fri, 6 Jan 2023 at 12:50, Dr. Plamen L. Simeonov
<<a href="mailto:plamen.l.simeonov@gmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">plamen.l.simeonov@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
> Dear Colleagues,<br>
> <br>
> I wish you a HAPPY; HEALTHY AND PEACEFUL NEW YEAR 2023
!<br>
> <br>
> It is my pleasure to announce, -- also on behalf of our
generous and hard-working host Pedro C. Marijuan who has
provided us with this forum of wonderful exchange for so
many years (Hallelujah!), -- the opening of our New Year's
discussion session under the topic THE ROOTS OF
CIVILISATION. that will end on January 31st, 2023.<br>
> <br>
> I am eager and curious to read your ideas. Please feel
free to share whatever comes to your mind.<br>
> <br>
> Here is the abstract with the focus and some idea we
can extract/expect at the end:<br>
> <br>
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++<br>
> <br>
> THE ROOTS OF MODERN (WESTERN / EUROPEAN) CIVILISATION<br>
> INTRO: We are living today in uncertain times with
multiple overlapping human-made crises which an advanced
civilization is supposed to anticipate and prevent --
ecology, epidemics, overpopulation, economy with
disproportional energy and resources consume, cultural and
generational polarization, even questioning science, moral
values and an individual’s identity. Furthermore,
ideologically led old ghost teachings of division, conflict
and confrontation among social groups and utopic tech
visions for remodeling and resetting the world with
unpredictable consequences are contributing to the overall
confusion and wrong choices, thus deepening the crises even
more. Could we look back at the past for some lessons?<br>
> THE MAGISTERY OF HISTORY: There have been many episodes
of civilization crises along human history. Each one of them
has left a "recipe" in our collective memory of how to
overcome it. Maybe this time things have become too complex
and multi-faceted, like society itself. Or maybe an evil
intention is lurking behind? There are so many different
aspects at multiple levels in social life all over the world
that have been increasingly challenged by our tunnel vision
on technology oriented towards more production/profit and
less cleaning/reuse/benevolence, away from a stable
equilibrium (“homeostasis”). They need to be reorganized
coherently and in a commonly agreeable way, not in one
imposed by self-proclaimed authorities who got used to
changing long established definitions and rules of conduct
following their own agenda. This takes time, of course, as
it has always been. What about looking for lessons to learn
from the past, or at least to obtain some orientation in
order to make the right decisions in this difficult time?
This appears to be more reasonable than starting to invent
novel directive-guided solutions from scratch deploying not
yet proven as safe technologies in a trial-and-error
fashion. We have an intriguing proposal for you. Let us
focus on a fascinating period in human history and find out
how the Western world was rebuilt and reintegrated from the
ruins of the Roman Empire. <a
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> <a
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> THE MONASTIC SYSTEM - A GREAT IDEA. A handful of people
may be credited with the design and realization of this
truly civilization project. During its golden ages, Rome was
defended by more than 200,000 legionaries, but after its
fall in 466 AD they were replaced by other, more powerful
spiritual warriors. They gradually covered the fragmented
(Western) Europe and expanded Christianity through
missionaries in the North by a coherent space of several
thousand Catholic Benedictine monasteries that peacefully
preserved and cultivated education, technology, economy,
medicine, law, art and moral values that integrated the
wisdom of the classical antiquity (Rom and Greece) and
enlightened the local communities through the Dark Ages.
Their success in ameliorating and guiding the human spirit
paved the way for the urban "cloisters" of universities
during the Renaissance Era (XII century ff.) where the seeds
of science found their fruitful grounds to grow. Thus,
several major crises, incl. alien invasions, the plague,
internecine wars and famines were overcome thanks to this
new resilient social scaffold.<br>
> <br>
> In Eastern Europe, the Roman-Byzantine Empire in
Constantinople, although shrunk through the waves of plague
and foreign invasions, survived for almost 1000 years thanks
to expanding Christianity and culture to its new neighbor
and rival, but also ally at times in the North, the
Bulgarian Empire. The latter developed the Cyrillic alphabet
during the IX century AD, translated the holy
books/prayers/songs in their language and began
disseminating them to the other Slavic people in today’s
territories of Serbia and Montenegro, Wallachia (Romania),
Ukraine and Russia. When the Bulgarian 3 kingdoms and
Constantinople surrendered in 1396 AD and 1453 AD to the
Ottoman Empire, the conquered people on the Balkan peninsula
continued to exist spiritually through a growing network of
Christian Orthodox monasteries that kept the local
communities together and finally led them to freedom through
the national liberation movements in the XIX century.<br>
> <br>
> Both Eastern and Western Europe endured those crises,
calamities and invasions because they maintained firm, sound
civilization roots based on the monastic system, the
universities and schools as education centers, and later on
industrial corporations. From today’s viewpoint the monastic
system is analogous to a modern resilient, redundant,
fault-tolerant and flexibly configurable computer network,
particularly with respect to its data storage and processing
resources, capable of self-diagnosis and self-healing, a
critical infrastructure per se. If a monastery was destroyed
or burned, the monks escaped with most of their valuable
books and artefacts via safe routes to neighboring
monasteries, where they could be preserved, replicated and
distributed again. <a
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> <a
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> THE SUCCESS OF THE WESTERN WORLD: Arguably, what we
call cultural Renaissance followed by scientific and
industrial revolutions were an evolutive product of medieval
society and the era of great geographical discoveries in the
New Worlds beyond Europe, North Africa and Asia. Quite
probably, they were only possible thanks to the first
missionary globalization and peaceful goods exchange along
the silk trade route following the pattern of the Antique
World trade across the territories surrounding the
Mediterranean Sea. Spain and Portugal brought to Europe not
only spices and silk, but also fundamental technologies from
Asia (gun powder, magnetic compass, paper, porcelain), and
later on a regular maritime trade routes from China via
Philippines and Mexico over the Atlantic that were active
for more than 250 years before Holland, France and England
became colonial powers dominating the sea trade, yet at the
price of slavery and exploiting the native population. The
further role of science and technology in the task of
changing Western societies was awesome, perhaps with the
infamous Cartesian breach between science and the
humanities, which no doubt has delivered a biased conception
of our rationality limits and led to awful ideological
misunderstandings that are absent in oriental
civilizations. <br>
> BACK TO THE PROBLEMS OF OUR TIME<br>
> And here we are. In a world that again faces illnesses
and adverse events from their anecdotic treatment to ask:
“How is the state of our civilization and our roots today?
What do we identify with today? Do we recognize the patterns
that let us down before and now? Do we know what can
reconcile and heal our multi-facetted society?”<br>
> We modestly, as scientists recognizing the societal
immune system, acknowledge the fact that we have the duty to
contribute to recovering the system with coherent visions
illuminating the "forking paths ahead" (as Borges put it).
First of all, on our own turf -- the flagrant incoherence
and misunderstandings around most fields where information
and communication, meaning and knowledge, as well as
collective intelligence need to be cleared up and nailed
down. We need to clean up our own backyard on this planet
and evolve to a new level, -- not necessarily a purely
technocratic one, -- before we set off for new missions in
space and meeting other civilizations out there.<br>
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> <br>
> Plamen<br>
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