<div dir="ltr"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm;text-align:justify;text-indent:14.2pt;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Caro
Marco,</span></p>

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hai chiesto a Pedro se aveva scritto qualcosa sui “gradi di libertà” in qualche
modo connessi con l’entropia. Nella mail che Ti inviato il 4 gennaio scorso ho
chiamato in causa le “strutture dissipative” per le quali Prigogine ha preso il
Nobel e imlicanti “fluttuazioni” o “instabilità” che com-portano la variabilità
dei gradi di libertà di queste variabili aleatorie che esprimono il numero
minimo dei dati sufficienti a valutare la quantità di informazione
(neg-entropia) contenuta nella statistica considerata. Infatti quando un dato
non è indipendente, l’infromazione che esso fornisce è già contenuta
implicitamente negli altri.</span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm;text-align:justify;text-indent:14.2pt;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Parlando
di neg-entropia non si può non evocare E. Schrodinger che applica i metodi
della fisica quantistica, per cui anche lui ha avuto il Nobel, allo studio
delle molecole vienti di interesse genetico. Da questo trend prende origine la
biologia molecolare informazionale.</span></p>

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addirittura, ne <i>Il giudizio di valore</i> (1971), ho anticipato l’impossibilità
della distribuzione dei prezzi dei beni immobili mediante la legge o curva di
Gauss avente il minor realistico grado di libertà e quindi la necessità di
prendere atto della geometria degli <i>Oggetti frattali</i> (1975) di B.B.
Mandelbrot. E potrei continuare cosi…</span></p>

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come fai a parlare di vaghezza del chimico-fisico e del fisico che hanno preso
il Nobel proprio parlando di questi argomenti, non di altro? Se mi sono
permesso di partecipare a questa discussione con uno spirito accogliente e
solidale è perché ritengo, con la dovuta umiltà, di avere inventato o scoperto
una Nuova economia quantistica, cioè proprio una «“eoria del campo unificato”
con molte facce». Quindi non v’ha alcun “re-indi-<b>rizz</b>ament<b>o </b>all’in-dietro
ai processi passati”.</span></p>

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comunque, sono educato a mantenere sempre la mia paziente disponibilità al
dialogo pluri-disciplinare anche perché la mia economia nuova prende dalle
altre scienze e dà alle altre scienze, quel che può o sa. Almeno questa è la
scienza della mia logica, senza alcuna presunzione.</span></p>

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bel saluto, sempre cordiale.</span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm;text-align:justify;text-indent:14.2pt;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"> </span></p></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Il giorno sab 7 gen 2023 alle ore 06:46 Francesco Rizzo <<a href="mailto:13francesco.rizzo@gmail.com" target="_blank">13francesco.rizzo@gmail.com</a>> ha scritto:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Dear Marco,<br>You asked Pedro if he had written anything about "degrees of freedom" somehow connected with entropy. In the email I sent you on January 4th, I mentioned the "dissipative structures" for which Prigogine was awarded the Nobel and the implying "fluctuations" or "instability" which lead to the variability of the degrees of freedom of these random variables which they express the minimum number of data sufficient to evaluate the amount of information (neg-entropy) contained in the considered statistic. In fact, when a datum is not independent, the information it provides is already implicitly contained in the others.<br>Speaking of neg-entropy, one cannot fail to mention E. Schrodinger who applies the methods of quantum physics, for which he too received the Nobel Prize, to the study of molecules of genetic interest. Informational molecular biology originates from this trend.<br>In The Value Judgment (1971), I even anticipated the impossibility of distributing the prices of real estate by means of Gauss's law or curve having the least realistic degree of freedom and therefore the need to take note of the geometry of Objects fractals (1975) by B.B. Mandelbrot. And I could go on like this…<br>So how can you talk about the vagueness of the physicist-chemist and the physicist who got the Nobel Prize talking about these topics, nothing else? If I allowed myself to participate in this discussion with a welcoming and supportive spirit, it is because I believe, with due humility, that I have invented or discovered a New Quantum Economy, that is, precisely a «“unified field theory” with many faces». So there is no "redirection back to past processes".<br>And in any case, I am educated to always maintain my patient availability for multi-disciplinary dialogue also because my new economics takes from the other sciences and gives to the other sciences what it can or knows. At least that's the science of my logic, without any presumptions.<br>A nice greeting, always cordial.<br>Francis.<br><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Il giorno ven 6 gen 2023 alle ore 09:21 Marcus Abundis <<a href="mailto:55mrcs@gmail.com" target="_blank">55mrcs@gmail.com</a>> ha scritto:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">Francesco,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">> defining two Nobel laureates, such as Prigogine and Schodinger . . . <</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">I 'define' nobody – I trust you are aware Prigogine and Schodinger offered ideas beyond topics for which they received Nobel prizes. It is THAT work which I found unsatisfying, and if THAT work was generally seen otherwise, I imagine they would have received further Nobel prizes . . . but that is not the case.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">There is a much larger issue serious thinkers are aware of, including Prigogine and Schodinger. In a forward-looking way, addressing issues related to a missing 'unified field theory', with many faces, is more interesting and on point. I do not see how backward-looking redirection to past prizes helps with progress on this front.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">Marcus</div><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;outline:0px;font-size:14px;font-family:proxima-nova-1,proxima-nova-2,Tahoma,Helvetica,Verdana,sans-serif;vertical-align:baseline;border-spacing:0px;color:rgb(51,51,51);line-height:18px"><tbody style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;outline:0px;font-style:inherit;font-family:inherit;vertical-align:baseline"><tr style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;outline:0px;font-style:inherit;font-family:inherit;vertical-align:baseline"><td style="padding:0px;border:0px;outline:0px;font-style:inherit;font-si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