<div dir="ltr">Cari Tutti,<div>l'onto-epistemo-logia è una scelta che una volta fatta rivela sua unicità.</div><div>Le dualità , come ad es., quella fisica tra la natura corpuscolare e ondulatoria </div><div>della luce e quella economica tra l'essere merce (materiale) e l'essere segno</div><div>(monetario o immateriale) dei beni, sono una cosa buona è inevitabile sia per</div><div>la scienza naturale sia per la scienza sociale,</div><div>Quelli che non vanno bene sono i dualismi.</div><div>Francesco</div><div><pre class="gmail-tw-data-text gmail-tw-text-large gmail-tw-ta" id="gmail-tw-target-text" dir="ltr" style="unicode-bidi:isolate;font-size:28px;line-height:36px;background-color:rgb(248,249,250);border:none;padding:2px 0.14em 2px 0px;font-family:inherit;overflow:hidden;width:270px;white-space:pre-wrap;color:rgb(32,33,36)"><span class="gmail-Y2IQFc" lang="en">Dear all, onto-epistemology is a choice that once made reveals its uniqueness. and being a sign (monetary or immaterial) of goods, they are a good thing is inevitable both for natural science and for social science, Those that are not good are dualisms.</span></pre><pre class="gmail-tw-data-text gmail-tw-text-large gmail-tw-ta" id="gmail-tw-target-text" style="unicode-bidi:isolate;font-size:28px;line-height:36px;background-color:rgb(248,249,250);border:none;padding:2px 0.14em 2px 0px;font-family:inherit;overflow:hidden;width:270px;white-space:pre-wrap;color:rgb(32,33,36)"><span class="gmail-Y2IQFc" lang="en">Francesco</span></pre></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Il giorno mar 26 apr 2022 alle ore 14:21 Pedro C. Marijuan <<a href="mailto:pcmarijuan.iacs@aragon.es" target="_blank">pcmarijuan.iacs@aragon.es</a>> ha scritto:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<div>Dear Mariusz,</div>
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<div>Beyond philosophical nuances, one of
the most intriguing aspects of art would concern its relationship
with the intellectual & cultural ethos of each epoch.</div>
<div>Art, stemming from inner drives of
almost unfathomable origins, seems to provide a compensation for
some of the absences in the daily life of citizens (a mostly urban
phenomenon).</div>
<div>The observer, or listener, gets some of
the intellective/emotional contents emitted by the art producer,
and that's satisfying for the permanent search for novelty that
characterizes our species in civilized life regimes.</div>
<div>Your polysemic use of "contrast" is
well adapted to discuss the above, I think, both in the art object
and in the receiver whole appreciation. <br>
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<div>The curious point is that the
historical evolution of art becomes a fascinating mirror of social
evolution itself. Thinking on Western art (classic, medieval,
renaissance, neoclassic, modern...), how contents and styles have
been evolved with the mentality of each epoch.... Reminding about
"media", It would echo what McLuhan was saying about means of
communication: every new media alters the psychic equilibrium and
forces a mental readaptation of the individual within the whole
communication mosaic. <br>
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<div>Coming to our times, How far could go
the present "deconstruction" of art, seemingly reduced to
presentation of brute "novelty"?</div>
<div> Is there a way back to art contents
satisfying the appetite for intellective/emotional contents?</div>
<div><br>
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<div>To complicate things for the worse,
some portions of "public art" seem to have been swallowed by the
superultimate "cancelation culture".</div>
<div>Is there anything left uncensored of
the cultural & artistic past? <br>
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<div><br>
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<div>I will appreciate your comments &
opinions --and of the list colleagues,</div>
<div>Best--Pedro<br>
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<div>El 26/04/2022 a las 9:41, Mariusz
Stanowski escribió:<br>
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<div><font size="4">Dear Joseph,</font></div>
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<div><font size="4">Thank you for your
clarification, however I was only referring to Cartesian
dualism. <br>
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<div><font size="4">You also write that
"the best art is neither totally realistic or abstract but has
features of both".</font></div>
<div><font size="4"> My understanding is
that there is no absolutely abstract or realistic art at all.
In the history of <br>
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<div><font size="4">art we had both
realism (Courbet) and abstractionism (Kandinsky).<br>
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<div><font size="4">Best regards</font></div>
<div><font size="4">Mariusz<br>
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<div>W dniu 2022-04-24 o 16:06, <a href="mailto:joe.brenner@bluewin.ch" target="_blank">joe.brenner@bluewin.ch</a>
pisze:<br>
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<font size="3">Dear Mariusz,</font>
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<div><font size="3">Please let me try this first rapid response,
without re-presenting my entire approach. I understand your
desire to avoid dualism, but dualism is a part of physics,
of our world. There is thus "bad" dualism, which brings in
invidious distinctions and separations. "Good" dualism
recognizes the fundamental difference between what is
(primarily) actual and (primarily) potential, as well as the
movement from one to the other, and between many other real
pairs.</font></div>
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<div><font size="3">In my logic, ontological and epistemological
entities are in any event not totally distinct, but <i>some</i>
share <i>some</i> of one another's properties, as do parts
and wholes and so on, without conflation.</font></div>
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<div><font size="3">The dualism of electrostatic charge and
magnetic polarity are real and influence the way we exist
and feel neurologically, and cognitively. Another example is
what is called colloquially "up" and "down" nuclear spin,
and there is some thought that some sub-atomic particles are
self-dual. I have even suggested that a form of self-duality
may exist at cognitive levels of reality. </font></div>
<div><br>
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<div><font size="3">As I stated above, the best art is neither
totally realistic or abstract but has features of both.
Perhaps the best strategy is to keep an open mind on the
subject or perhaps, like some sets, a closed-open (clopen)
mind.</font></div>
<div><font size="3"><br>
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<div><font size="3">Best,</font></div>
<div><font size="3">Joseph<br>
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Date : 24/04/2022 - 10:52 (CEST)<br>
À : <a href="mailto:fis@listas.unizar.es" target="_blank">fis@listas.unizar.es</a><br>
Objet : Re: [Fis] Book Presentation. The Interpersonal
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<div> Dear Joseph, </div>
<div> <br>
</div>
<div> You've written: "such as
information processes, has both an ontic and an epistemic
component" </div>
<div> <br>
</div>
If we introduce a distinction between ontic and epistemic
then we are assuming a dualistic view in advance, which, for
example, I am not in favor of.
<div> <br>
</div>
<div> Best regards </div>
<div> <br>
</div>
<div> Mariusz <br>
</div>
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