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<DIV><FONT size=4>Dear Howard, Pedro, Plamen, and FIS Colleagues,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=4>Let me remember the two main direction of AI:<BR></DIV></FONT>
<DIV><FONT size=4>1. To replace humans <BR>2. To extend humans’ (mind)
possibilities as a (brain) prosthesis.<BR><BR>I think, the Howard thesis is
correct for the second area.</FONT></DIV><FONT size=4>
<DIV><BR>The first area may cause some fluctuations but I hope the human been
will solve this problem. <BR>I could not imagine pure machine society but
replacing humans in dangerous operations, for instance, on Mars, is quite
possible.</DIV>
<DIV>Of course, there exist military machines with AI, for example, drones,
which may be used against humans ... </DIV>
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<DIV>Friendly greetings</DIV>
<DIV>Krassimir</DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=howlbloom@aol.com
href="mailto:howlbloom@aol.com">Howard Bloom</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, February 16, 2021 1:23 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=plamen.l.simeonov@gmail.com
href="mailto:plamen.l.simeonov@gmail.com">plamen.l.simeonov@gmail.com</A> ; <A
title=pcmarijuan.iacs@aragon.es
href="mailto:pcmarijuan.iacs@aragon.es">pcmarijuan.iacs@aragon.es</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=fis@listas.unizar.es
href="mailto:fis@listas.unizar.es">fis@listas.unizar.es</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Fis] Abstract--Electronic Symbiosis—Lessons from
Bacteria</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV style="COLOR: black; FONT: 10pt verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif">re:
<SPAN style='FONT-SIZE: medium; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"'>This biological
argument is based on an exception. For </SPAN><I
style='FONT-SIZE: medium; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"'>most </I><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: medium; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"'>inter-species long
term evolutionary encounters conduce to... extinction.</SPAN>
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<DIV><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman">pedro, hi, could you give me some
examples of interspecies encounters leading to extinction? to me, that
would seem the exception to the rule. a cluster of different species living
together in an ecological community benefit from keeping each other alive.
despite their habit of eating each other.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman">re: Plamen, thanks for the
comment. "</FONT><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: small; FONT-FAMILY: arial, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(7,55,99); BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">I
wish we were smart enough to push it forward into practice. </SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: small; FONT-FAMILY: arial, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(7,55,99); BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">Are
we?"</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: small; FONT-FAMILY: arial, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(7,55,99); BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">hb:
we often accomplish miracles with no consciousness of what we've done. I
hope that happens here. </SPAN></DIV>
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of material miracles we've made but have failed to plan or see:</SPAN></DIV>
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style='FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"'>If you’d been born in 1850, your
expected lifespan would have been 37.5 years. If you’d been born in the
West in 2000, your expected lifespan would have been 78.5 years. Chinese
Emperors were willing to spend almost all of their wealth to achieve an extra
four years of life. But Western Civilization has added another 40.
Western civilization has more than doubled the human lifespan. No other
civilization in the history of the world—not the Chinese, Egyptian, Muslim,
Russian Marxist, or Roman—has ever pulled this off.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></DIV>
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style='FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"'>If you’d been the poorest paid
worker in London in 2012, a personal assistant, you would have earned what an
entire tenement full of the poorest paid workers in London were paid in
1850. You would have earned what seven Irish dockworkers
made.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></DIV>
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Western kids today a Stanford Binet IQ test from 1900, today’s kids would
register as near geniuses. They’d register an average IQ of roughly
135. That’s an IQ Jump of 35 points.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></DIV>
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culture, one of those tribes that “lives in peace and harmony with
nature,” your odds of dying a violent death at the hands of a fellow
human being would be ten times what they are in the West today. Since
1650, Western Civilization has upped the level of peace by a factor of
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height would have been four inches higher than if you’d been born in
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close to a billion people out of poverty in a mere twenty years.<A
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there's always a chance that we could blow it. or that we could built
algorithms into military ai that ultimately decide that we are the enemy and
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size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: Dr. Plamen L. Simeonov
<plamen.l.simeonov@gmail.com><BR>To: Pedro C. Marijuan
<pcmarijuan.iacs@aragon.es><BR>Cc: fis
<fis@listas.unizar.es><BR>Sent: Mon, Feb 15, 2021 1:55 pm<BR>Subject: Re:
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Pedro, and your note about Michael Conrad.</DIV>
<DIV class=yiv2522115214gmail_default
style="FONT-FAMILY: arial, sans-serif; COLOR: #073763">Unfortunately, this
challenging era we live now is certainly a great opportunity, as Howard
suggests, but also at least 50% chance to surrender to what will come next to
replace us as individuals. But I know that Howard has another receipt suggesting
the development of the global interconnected mind (the "Avatar" movie idea)
which is a nice goal we can evolve too, but from what I have been observing in
the world during this pandemic, I conclude only that this mind is of a weird and
perplexed global being. The only hope is that this state of illness will be over
within a certain period of time. </DIV>
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<DIV class=yiv2522115214gmail_default
style="FONT-FAMILY: arial, sans-serif; COLOR: #073763">Great books and a great
theory, Howard! I wish we were smart enough to push it forward into
practice.</DIV>
<DIV class=yiv2522115214gmail_default
style="FONT-FAMILY: arial, sans-serif; COLOR: #073763">Are we?</DIV>
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<DIV class=yiv2522115214gmail_attr dir=ltr>On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 7:44 PM Pedro
C. Marijuan <<A href="mailto:pcmarijuan.iacs@aragon.es" shape=rect
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<DIV>Thanks Krassimir, it looks a good idea. <BR clear=none></DIV>
<DIV>Those parties sending their abstracts, we should understand, are asking
for discussion.</DIV>
<DIV>Then, here there are some comments on Howard's.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">"What’s more, the cellulose
eaters could defecate material that was toast with butter and jam to the
cockroaches, the perfect food-- sugars and short-chain fatty acids..." <BR
clear=none></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">Quite right. </SPAN><SPAN
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">Waste of one species becomes excellent
food for another. </SPAN><SPAN style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">I was
then reminded Jerry's recent comments on entropy as being somehow analogous
with </SPAN><SPAN style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">"forms of
natural wastes, such as feces, dung, shit, urine, etc." Well, it depends.
Entropy itself, in Gibbs' free energy, becomes a frequent positive
contribution to the chemical reaction free energy (when there is an entropy
increase of products respect reactants). And it often helps in enzyme function
too (e.g., by entropy change in vicinal water that empowers the enzyme for
overcoming the activation energy barrier). Things in nature usually work in a
series of conjugated, networked yin-yang relationships--rather than absolutes.
</SPAN>
<DIV style="TEXT-ALIGN: left"><SPAN style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"><BR
clear=none></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="TEXT-ALIGN: left"><SPAN
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">About the substance of the abstract, Who
knows? Michel Conrad made a curious relationship --tradeoff principle--
between adaptability, evolvability, and information processing. An increase of
the latter diminishes the former. So, we may find less capable people as they
rely more and more on external algorithms or processing gadgets... is it
already happening with the current generation, socially less and less adapted
precisely because of their over-immersion onto "social networks"?<BR
clear=none></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="TEXT-ALIGN: left"><SPAN style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"><BR
clear=none></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="TEXT-ALIGN: left"><SPAN style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">"If
all goes well, that will be the relationship of AI and humankind—symbiosis.
Mutual empowerment." Not necessarily. This biological argument is based on an
exception. For <I>most </I>inter-species long term evolutionary encounters
conduce to... extinction. <BR clear=none></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="TEXT-ALIGN: left"><SPAN style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"><BR
clear=none></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="TEXT-ALIGN: left"><SPAN
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">Gloom and Doom!</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="TEXT-ALIGN: left"><SPAN
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">--Pedro<BR clear=none></SPAN></DIV><SPAN
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>El 14/02/2021 a las 16:57, Krassimir Markov escribió:<BR
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<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)">
<DIV><FONT size=4>Dear <SPAN style="TEXT-ALIGN: center"><FONT
face=Verdana><FONT face=Calibri>Howard,</FONT></FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4><SPAN style="TEXT-ALIGN: center"><FONT face=Verdana><FONT
face=Calibri>Thank you for the abstract.</FONT></FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4><SPAN style="TEXT-ALIGN: center">You are right!<BR
clear=none><BR clear=none>Dear Pedro,<BR clear=none>Maybe it is a good idea
to discuss some abstracts in FIS list.<BR clear=none>I think, the moderators
of sessions may take a such decision.<BR clear=none></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4><SPAN style="TEXT-ALIGN: center">Friendly
greetings</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4><SPAN
style="TEXT-ALIGN: center">Krassimir</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4><SPAN
style="TEXT-ALIGN: center"></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4><SPAN
style="TEXT-ALIGN: center"></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4><SPAN
style="TEXT-ALIGN: center"></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(245,245,245)">
<DIV><B>From:</B> <A title=howlbloom@aol.com href="mailto:howlbloom@aol.com"
shape=rect rel="noreferrer noopener" target=_blank
ymailto="mailto:howlbloom@aol.com">Howard Bloom</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, February 14, 2021 3:06 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=fis@listas.unizar.es
href="mailto:fis@listas.unizar.es" shape=rect rel="noreferrer noopener"
target=_blank ymailto="mailto:fis@listas.unizar.es">fis@listas.unizar.es</A>
; <A title=pcmarijuan.iacs@aragon.es href="mailto:pcmarijuan.iacs@aragon.es"
shape=rect rel="noreferrer noopener" target=_blank
ymailto="mailto:pcmarijuan.iacs@aragon.es">pcmarijuan.iacs@aragon.es</A>
</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> [Fis] Abstract--Electronic Symbiosis—Lessons from
Bacteria</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV></DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: calibri; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inline">
<DIV
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: black; FONT-STYLE: normal; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; font-stretch: normal">i've
submitted the following abstract to wolfgang hofkirchner for his digital
humanism section of the conference:
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE
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<DIV style="TEXT-ALIGN: center"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 13px">Electronic
Symbiosis—Lessons from Bacteria</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="TEXT-ALIGN: center"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 13px">Howard
Bloom</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="TEXT-ALIGN: center"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 13px"><A
href="mailto:howlbloom@aol.com" shape=rect rel="noreferrer noopener"
target=_blank
ymailto="mailto:howlbloom@aol.com">howlbloom@aol.com</A></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="TEXT-ALIGN: center"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 13px">Author, The
Lucifer Principle: a Scientific Expedition into the Forces of
History</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="TEXT-ALIGN: center"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 13px">Chairman,
The Howard Bloom Institute</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="TEXT-ALIGN: center"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 13px">Founder and
co-chair, The Asian Space Technology Summit</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="TEXT-ALIGN: center"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 13px">Former
Visiting Scholar, Graduate Psychology Department, New York
University</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="TEXT-ALIGN: center"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 13px">Former Core
Faculty Member, The Graduate Institute, Meriden, Connecticut</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="TEXT-ALIGN: center"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 13px"><BR
clear=none></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="TEXT-ALIGN: left"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 13px">Some say that
we should not let humanity’s new electronic frontiers reshape us. But
every time technology has reshaped us, it has upgraded us. To see how
synergies with electronic systems like artificial intelligence can give
humanity and humanism new powers, look at how bacteria have gained new
abilities over the last billion years. They could have anticipated being
annihilated by the new multicellulars and tried to stop multicellular
formation. But the multicellulars did not wipe out their single-celled
forebears. Far from it. They worked out deals with the multi-cellulars.
And those cooperative arrangements gave both the microbes and the
multi-cellular beasts whole new powers, whole new ways to make a living.
Look, for example, at the cockroaches that first showed up on the planet
320 million years ago. For 69 million years, the cockroaches were limited
to easily digestible food. But there was hard stuff all around them
bursting with nourishment. That oh, too solid stuff was the tree. And
there was no way that the digestive system of cockroaches could turn bark
and wood into tasty treats. Then came over 33 species of bacteria and set
up shop in the cockroach’s guts. Species like Paenibacillus lactis,
Lysinibacillusmacrolides, and Stenotrophomonas maltophilia.</SPAN><SPAN
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">[i] </SPAN><SPAN
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">These microbial wonders could eat
cellulose, the hard stuff that had previously made wood indigestible.
What’s more, the cellulose eaters could defecate material that was toast
with butter and jam to the cockroaches, the perfect food-- sugars and
short-chain fatty acids. In exchange, the microbes used cockroaches as
their transport and chewing machines. The cockroaches empowered by their
bacterial colonists to eat trees took off on an evolutionary path of their
own. Today we call them termites. And there are 2,000 species of them.
Which means that once the lowly cockroach allowed cellulose-eating
bacteria and flagellates to turn its innards into a microbial dining hall,
the newly empowered cockroaches found 2,000 new ways to make a living. So,
no, multicellular beings did not wipe out their single-celled progenitors.
They gave them a rich new home. And they gavet he unicellulars
breathtaking new abilities. If all goes well, that will be the
relationship of AI and humankind—symbiosis. Mutual
empowerment.</SPAN></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><BR clear=none><BR clear=none>
<DIV><FONT
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial, helvetica; COLOR: black"
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR clear=none>From: Karl Javorszky <A
href="mailto:karl.javorszky@gmail.com" shape=rect rel="noreferrer noopener"
target=_blank
ymailto="mailto:karl.javorszky@gmail.com">mailto:karl.javorszky@gmail.com</A><BR
clear=none>To: 钟义信 <A href="mailto:zyx@bupt.edu.cn" shape=rect
rel="noreferrer noopener" target=_blank
ymailto="mailto:zyx@bupt.edu.cn">mailto:zyx@bupt.edu.cn</A><BR
clear=none>Cc: fis <A href="mailto:fis@listas.unizar.es" shape=rect
rel="noreferrer noopener" target=_blank
ymailto="mailto:fis@listas.unizar.es">mailto:fis@listas.unizar.es</A>; Pedro
<A href="mailto:pcmarijuan.iacs@aragon.es" shape=rect
rel="noreferrer noopener" target=_blank
ymailto="mailto:pcmarijuan.iacs@aragon.es">mailto:pcmarijuan.iacs@aragon.es</A><BR
clear=none>Sent: Fri, Feb 12, 2021 11:15 pm<BR clear=none>Subject: Re: [Fis]
回复： New Year in China<BR clear=none><BR clear=none></FONT>
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<DIV>
<DIV>Please resend the 2 papers, as my office software says it doesn't
recognize the file format used.
<DIV>Thanks </DIV>
<DIV>Karl </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr>钟义信 <<A href="mailto:zyx@bupt.edu.cn" shape=rect
rel="noreferrer noopener" target=_blank
ymailto="mailto:zyx@bupt.edu.cn">zyx@bupt.edu.cn</A>> schrieb am Sa., 13.
Feb. 2021, 03:29:<BR clear=none></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman">Dear Pedro,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman"><BR clear=none></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman">Please accept my warm greetings
to you for the outstanding contributions you made to IS4SI during the past
years and also for the Chinese new year..</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman"><BR clear=none></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman">Here I would send you two
documents of the Calls, see attachment, as some progresses made by China
Chapter for the preparations for IS4SI World Summit-2021. I would be very
grateful if you could help us by distributing the Calls to
FISers.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman"><BR clear=none></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman">My best regards,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman"><BR clear=none></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman">Yixin</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><B>发送时间:</B> 2021年2月13日(星期六) 凌晨5:43</DIV>
<DIV><B>收件人:</B> "fis"<<A href="mailto:fis@listas.unizar.es" shape=rect
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<DIV><B>主题:</B> [Fis] New Year in China</DIV></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Dear FIS Colleagues,<BR clear=none><BR clear=none>With the occasion
of the Chinese New Year, let me express our collective <BR
clear=none>greetings and best wishes to the FISers there. We badly need
good news, <BR clear=none>and at least the celebrations of a New Year
bring us some sense of hope <BR clear=none>and forbearance in front of the
present difficulties. Probably, when all <BR clear=none>of this recedes,
we will be able to make fine discussions about social <BR
clear=none>resilience...<BR clear=none><BR clear=none>All the best<BR
clear=none><BR clear=none>--Pedro<BR clear=none><BR clear=none>-- <BR
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style="FONT-SIZE: small; FONT-FAMILY: arial, helvetica">Former Visiting
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Faculty Member, The Graduate Institute; Current Kepler Space Institute
Senior Scholar.</SPAN></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: small; FONT-FAMILY: arial, helvetica">Founder:
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