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.quote { margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em; border-left: 5px #ebebeb solid; padding-left: 0.3em; }--></style></head><body><div>Dear Bruno, </div><div><br /></div><div>It is difficult to follow:</div><div><br /></div><div id="xd07d1fbf4be6453" style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><blockquote cite="F8300E62-5B7D-4CB9-B404-9841B6CE57A9@ulb.ac.be" type="cite" class="cite2"><div class=""><div><div><span style="font-size: 12pt;">We have to distinguish the level of the occurrence, but mechanical entities cannot draw a clear line between “historicistic” and the possible first person aspect relative to an evolutionary dynamic.</span></div></div></div></blockquote>Yes. <br /><blockquote cite="F8300E62-5B7D-4CB9-B404-9841B6CE57A9@ulb.ac.be" type="cite" class="cite2"><div class=""><div><div><span><br /></span></div><div>With mechanism, the very emergence of the physical laws are explained through a first person plural historicity, some one. It is were the many-histories internal interpretation of arithmetic by itself is filtered into a many histories account of the physical laws, like in Feynman path integral, but also like in the many-histories interpretation/formulation of quantum mechanics (Omnes, Griffith, Hartle).</div></div></div></blockquote>Do you mean with "many histories" discursive?</div><div id="xd07d1fbf4be6453" style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;">The system of reference changes from "observer" to a discourse?</div><div id="xd07d1fbf4be6453" style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><br /></div><div id="xd07d1fbf4be6453" style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;">I agree that this makes concepts like "Shannon information" inter-objective.  They are no longer based on observations of an observer. It follows that there are two kinds of meaning:: subjective and inter-subjective/communicative. Information (uncertainty) can be coupled to variable degrees to each of them. One can have more or less meaningful information. </div><div id="xd07d1fbf4be6453" style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><br /></div><div id="xd07d1fbf4be6453" style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;">Best,</div><div id="xd07d1fbf4be6453" style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;">Loet<br /><blockquote cite="F8300E62-5B7D-4CB9-B404-9841B6CE57A9@ulb.ac.be" type="cite" class="cite2"><div class=""><div><div><br /></div><div>The universal numbers are the one who proceed the “Shannon information” into possible meaning eventually structured physically into quantum information when they take into account that they “belong” to an infinity of computation, below their substitution level.</div><div><br class="" /></div><div>I think that the universal digital machine or universal number provides the good generalisation of the “human” in the search of the relation between the first and third person views. A universal machine + induction axioms supports already an admirable person with an internal conflict between liberty (universality) and security (totality). It helps to understand why we have 2 brains, and perhaps even why democracy is important.</div><div><br class="" /></div><div>Best,</div><div><br class="" /></div><div>Bruno</div><div><br class="" /></div><div>(Sorry for being late and not always present. I am a bit overwhelmed by my job. Covid-19 easily doubles the tasks when teaching. I bought also the two last volumes of the complete writings of Gödel, which occupies my mind… Here is just my little grain of salt). </div><div><br class="" /></div><br class="" /><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div id="xb59c9a6dd372478" class=""><br class="" /></div><div id="xb59c9a6dd372478" class="">Best,</div><div id="xb59c9a6dd372478" class="">Loet. <br class="" /><blockquote cite="x-msg://246/632f8fa8-910b-63f0-e206-0e3ae2c89593@aragon.es" type="cite" class="cite2"><div class="moz-cite-prefix"><br class="" /></div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Best greetings</div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">--Pedro<br class="" />
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix"> El 25/09/2020 a las 13:46, Christophe
      Menant escribió:<br class="" />
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          Pedro, <br class="" />
          It is true that using constraints relative to 3000 genes would
          bring in a level of complexity
          <span style="mso-spacerun:yes" class=""> </span>difficult to manage.
          But the usage of the Meaning Genartaor System is with higher
          level entities where the constraints are of a generic type,
          like “Stay alive” and “Look for happiness”.
          <span style="mso-spacerun:yes" class=""> </span>By the way, I’m not
          alone on that perspective. See
          <a href="https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-030-01198-7_6#aboutcontent" moz-do-not-send="true" class="">
https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-030-01198-7_6#aboutcontent</a><span style="mso-spacerun:yes" class=""> </span>where different type of
          “control constraints” are introduced at basic life level,
          associated to “meaningful interpretation” and “significances”.
          Also, the<span style="mso-spacerun:yes" class="">  </span>concept of
          constraint satisfaction as an entry point to cognition looks
          as accepted by the community (“a system is cognitive if and
          only if sensory inputs serve to trigger actions in a specific
          way, so as to satisfy a viability constraint” [Bourgine,
          Stewart 2004]). <span style="mso-spacerun:yes" class="">
             </span>So I don’t see very well why there is a reluctance
          to use a system approach on meaning generation for constraint
          satisfaction. What would be your position on that point?<br class="" />
          An advantage of the system approach is to allow the modeling
          of meaning generation in artificial agents with derived
          constraints. Meaning generation in living entities and in AAs
          can then be compared with the same tool. This highlights some
          concerns relative to artificial life and artificial
          intelligence, with ethical components (<a href="https://philpapers.org/archive/MENTTC-2.pdf" moz-do-not-send="true" class="">https://philpapers.org/archive/MENTTC-2.pdf</a>
          ).
          <br class="" />
          On that subject I do not see very well how the 10 principles
          are linked to artificial cognition, which is, I feel, an
          important item for principles of information in our world
          where artificial agents participate more and more to all
          components of our lives. Could you tell us more on that? <br class="" />
          All the best <br class="" />
          Christophe<br class="" />
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          J. (2004) ‘Autopoiesis and cognition’ Artificial life, Summer
          2004, Vol. 10, No. 3, MIT Press Journals. <a href="http://www.mitpressjournals.org/doi/abs/10.1162/1064546041255557#.VJLBnCuG-UI" moz-do-not-send="true" class="">
http://www.mitpressjournals.org/doi/abs/10.1162/1064546041255557#.VJLBnCuG-UI</a></span><br class="" />
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        <div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr" class=""><font style="font-size:11pt" face="Calibri, sans-serif" class=""><b class="">De :</b> Fis
            <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:fis-bounces@listas.unizar.es"><fis-bounces@listas.unizar.es></a> de la part de Pedro C.
            Marijuan <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:pcmarijuan.iacs@aragon.es"><pcmarijuan.iacs@aragon.es></a><br class="" />
            <b class="">Envoyé :</b> vendredi 18 septembre 2020 20:01<br class="" />
            <b class="">À :</b> 'fis' <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:fis@listas.unizar.es"><fis@listas.unizar.es></a><br class="" />
            <b class="">Objet :</b> Re: [Fis] Fwd: The 10 Principles</font>
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        <div class="">Dear All,<br class="" />
          Thanks to Jose Javier for his comments. Regarding the loop you
          mention about distinction, you are right, but this is a very
          characteristic of life (see that Maturana and Varela already
          said something pretty similar in their Tree of Knowledge). In
          the other biological principles that follow (below)  I try to
          clarify that notion in several directions, particularly
          concerning signaling systems, a concept which was completely
          ignored until well in the 1990s. Your second comment may be
          partially responded looking at those further principles
          dealing with the symbolic communication via language and the
          social narratives, not far from what you have pointed. Thus I
          include the whole principles herein.<br class="" /><p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;&#xD;&#xA;&#xD;&#xA;            margin-bottom:.0001pt; text-align:justify;&#xD;&#xA;&#xD;&#xA;            line-height:14.0pt">
            <span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US" class="">1. Information is
              distinction on an <i style="" class="">
                adjacent </i>difference. <span style="color:red" class=""></span></span></p><p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;&#xD;&#xA;&#xD;&#xA;            margin-bottom:.0001pt; text-align:justify;&#xD;&#xA;&#xD;&#xA;            line-height:14.0pt">
            <span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US" class="">2. Information
              processes consist in organized action upon differences
              collected onto structures, patterns, sequences, messages,
              or flows.</span></p><p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;&#xD;&#xA;&#xD;&#xA;            margin-bottom:.0001pt; text-align:justify;&#xD;&#xA;&#xD;&#xA;            line-height:14.0pt">
            <span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US" class="">3. Information
              flows are essential organizers of life's self-production
              process –the life cycle– anticipating, shaping, and mixing
              up with the accompanying energy flows.</span></p><p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;&#xD;&#xA;&#xD;&#xA;            margin-bottom:.0001pt; text-align:justify;&#xD;&#xA;&#xD;&#xA;            line-height:14.0pt">
            <span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US" class="">4. Proto-phenomena
              of meaning, knowledge, and cognition (& intelligence)
              emerge via signaling systems of living cells, fully
              developed in the action/perception cycle of central
              nervous systems.</span></p><p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;&#xD;&#xA;&#xD;&#xA;            margin-bottom:.0001pt; text-align:justify;&#xD;&#xA;&#xD;&#xA;            line-height:14.0pt">
            <span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US" class="">5.
              Information/communication exchanges among adaptive
              life-cycles underlie the complexity of biological
              organization at all scales.</span></p><p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;&#xD;&#xA;&#xD;&#xA;            margin-bottom:.0001pt; text-align:justify;&#xD;&#xA;&#xD;&#xA;            line-height:14.0pt">
            <span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US" class="">6. It is symbolic
              language what conveys the essential communication
              exchanges of individuals —and constitutes the core of
              human "social nature."</span></p><p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;&#xD;&#xA;&#xD;&#xA;            margin-bottom:.0001pt; text-align:justify;&#xD;&#xA;&#xD;&#xA;            line-height:14.0pt">
            <span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US" class="">7. Human
              information can be transformed into efficient knowledge by
              following the "knowledge instinct", further enhanced and
              delimited by collectively applying rigorous methodologies.</span></p><p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;&#xD;&#xA;&#xD;&#xA;            margin-bottom:.0001pt; text-align:justify;&#xD;&#xA;&#xD;&#xA;            line-height:14.0pt">
            <span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US" class="">8. Human cognitive
              limitations are partially overcome via "knowledge
              ecologies", where knowledge circulates and recombines
              socially in a continuous actualization that involves
              "creative destruction" of theories, practices, and
              disciplines.</span></p><p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;&#xD;&#xA;&#xD;&#xA;            margin-bottom:.0001pt; text-align:justify;&#xD;&#xA;&#xD;&#xA;            line-height:14.0pt">
            <span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US" class="">9. Narratives
              become encapsulated forms of “natural intelligence”,
              tailored to capture collective attention and memory, and
              essential for the cohesion of social, political, and
              economic structures.</span></p><p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;&#xD;&#xA;&#xD;&#xA;            margin-bottom:.0001pt; text-align:justify;&#xD;&#xA;&#xD;&#xA;            line-height:14.0pt">
            <span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US" class="">10. Information
              science proposes a new, radical vision on how information
              and knowledge surround individual lives, with profound
              consequences for scientific-philosophical practice and for
              social governance.</span></p>
          <br class="" /><p class="">Briefly referring to the other discussion track
            (Christophe), I quite agree with situating the origins of
            (genuine) meaning with living beings, but have some trouble
            with "constraints" when generally applied to biological
            cognition. I think they may be more useful in other fields
            (originated in kinematics, they become more and more
            volatile as used in Dynamic Systems Theory, and similarly
            weakened when going from AI to biological cognition). For
            instance,  given 3,000 genes in Ecoli, organized in mixed
            clusters of fiendish complexity, how do you establish
            meaningful constraints? Or can even attribute separate
            "functions"? You may see in DOI:<a class=" x_nova-e-link--color-inherit&#xD;&#xA;&#xD;&#xA; x_nova-e-link&#xD;&#xA;&#xD;&#xA; x_nova-e-link--theme-decorated" href="https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.researchgate.net%2Fderef%2Fhttp%253A%252F%252Fdx.doi.org%252F10.1016%252Fj.pbiomolbio.2015.07.002%3F_sg%255B0%255D%3DnH-ziIzFNlPKAqMszwKA9aJSdUF_He_Rfcal3jUKXaF_lvDrbTWXcTEDtf5uNRaHZMzJ0MFczgM3J-aub54-p6oiQA.Vi1baoaYqIl4vlby-pQVd58ob8urom6m0dhZo1yJ26_NjwihWirad9bxSivcVUymzy-vS1FcL9dD4ZQ7UDtz_w&data=02%7C01%7C%7C13a6b1012e6746c2a97208d85bfd00a1%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637360489476081481&sdata=Gs6M4SxmClw83ShkAl9Vf7UIYyppHAAUxprvHFtZDRY%3D&reserved=0" originalsrc="https://www.researchgate.net/deref/http%3A%2F%2Fdx.doi.org%2F10.1016%2Fj.pbiomolbio.2015.07.002?_sg%5B0%5D=nH-ziIzFNlPKAqMszwKA9aJSdUF_He_Rfcal3jUKXaF_lvDrbTWXcTEDtf5uNRaHZMzJ0MFczgM3J-aub54-p6oiQA.Vi1baoaYqIl4vlby-pQVd58ob8urom6m0dhZo1yJ26_NjwihWirad9bxSivcVUymzy-vS1FcL9dD4ZQ7UDtz_w" shash="WqOjgfm+ae3S6+s6MmElql6mEKbcKwsp0SlcgBSYbczW6Wf0GqbzPVYWr1knZTXk3Zr4m/v+YvFR0mqgP+HRA16l5TrUc4K218QhpTlIVi0ehXO0+QNA5+Q/2MIT8jsCquXDeppUy5/FoI8AHquPJEFwPsWL2idaRB8Wxf+OzGs=" moz-do-not-send="true"> 10.1016/j.pbiomolbio.2015.07.002</a><span class=" x_nova-e-link--color-inherit&#xD;&#xA;&#xD;&#xA; x_nova-e-link x_nova-e-link--theme-decorated">  
            </span><span class=" x_nova-e-link--color-inherit&#xD;&#xA;&#xD;&#xA; x_nova-e-link&#xD;&#xA;&#xD;&#xA; x_nova-e-link--theme-decorated">the very dimensions of
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            </a></p><p class="">Regarding Marcus' comment on life as imprecisely defined
            (and whether viruses or Gaia are 'alive'), the fundamental
            issue in natural sciences is "explaining" rather than
            defining. And fortunately the advancement in our
            explanations of life in last decades has been fantastic.
            Life can now be characterized in every basic aspect with
            amazing depth. One cannot give a precise definition of life,
            but one can provide a list of essential characteristics, and
            at the center are the informational ones. Empirically, the
            point is that information appears to be so ingrained in the
            molecular organization of life that scores of new
            bio-disciplines have been recently launched around it:
            bioinformatics, bioinformation, biocomputation, all the
            "omic" fields, signaling science, etc. Biosemiotics could be
            included too, but Hélas, most biosemioticians continue to
            "read" the DNA meaning via the genetic code, rather than
            exploring the "signals" abduced from the environment and
            "distinctionally worked out and transcribed in genes--from
            which ultimately "meaning" emerges. About viruses
            concretely, they have been essential in the origins of
            eukaryotic complexity and in the dynamic balance of marine
            and terrestrial ecosystems... irrespective on how we
            consider their degree of "aliveness". And finally "non
            comment" about some (baiting?) expressions in your previous
            reply. <br class="" />
          </p><p class="">I see right now the careful "review" by Loet: better for a
            next occasion!<br class="" />
          </p><p class="">Best--Pedro</p><p class="">PS. The Three Messages per Week are counted following the
            international business week (from Monday to Sunday
            included).<br class="" />
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