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  <body><div id="x577a36bc8bb34cc"><blockquote cite="9356c240-577f-8524-a425-c0ef78966663@aragon.es" type="cite" class="cite2"><div class="moz-cite-prefix"><br /></div></blockquote>Dear Pdro:</div><div id="x577a36bc8bb34cc"><br /><blockquote cite="9356c240-577f-8524-a425-c0ef78966663@aragon.es" type="cite" class="cite2"><div class="moz-cite-prefix">But there is not any general "scala
      naturae" for information, it is a mere "projection"--</div></blockquote><div id="x577a36bc8bb34cc">It is not projection, but construction. The theorizing which goes into it remains open for testing.  The constructs can be considered "scala culturae". </div><br /><blockquote cite="9356c240-577f-8524-a425-c0ef78966663@aragon.es" type="cite" class="cite2"><div class="moz-cite-prefix">unless our
      quantum info colleagues would surprise us with a self-producing,
      self-communicating cosmos. I do not deny that possibility.</div></blockquote>The hypothesis is a chaology instead of a cosmology. All construction (including the cosmos) is constructed.</div><div id="x577a36bc8bb34cc"><br /></div><div id="x577a36bc8bb34cc">indeed Shannon-type information theory can take us from scale to scale.</div><div id="x577a36bc8bb34cc"><br /></div><div id="x577a36bc8bb34cc">Best, </div><div id="x577a36bc8bb34cc">Loet<br /><blockquote cite="9356c240-577f-8524-a425-c0ef78966663@aragon.es" type="cite" class="cite2"><div class="moz-cite-prefix"><br /></div>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Nice to hear from Koichiro in the
      list!!</div>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Best--Pedro</div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">PS. By the way, Francesco, it is a pity
      you always write in Italian, as we rapidly dismiss your
      contents--just for laziness of not going to the translator. <br />
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">But you could translate by yourself. Go
      to
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=google+translate+english">https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=google+translate+english</a></div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Enter your Italian text in the left,
      and voilà, the English translation automatically appears in the
      right...</div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">My personal greetings to you too, I
      remember our encounter in Franco Musumeci's meeting long ago.</div>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix"> Translated with <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.DeepL.com/Translator">www.DeepL.com/Translator</a>
      (free version)El 30/09/2020 a las 7:55, Francesco Rizzo escribió:<br />
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    <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:CAEvKwySixiCcVTi0x3oHo70VAu9jb3of=-OTXiaxLZPpzvX5kg@mail.gmail.com" class="cite">
      
      <div dir="ltr">Cari Tutti,
        <div>l'informazione è la legge delle leggi concettualmente
          consistente in un processo di dare o prendere forma
          (neg-entropica) contrastato dalla deformazione o
          degradazione (entropica). L'informazione si trasforma nel
          tempo e nello spazio, dando luogo al processo di
          tras-in-formazione. La massa determina come gli spazi, debbono
          curvarsi, gli spazi determinano come le masse si debbono
          muovere. Tutto ciò che esiste, vivente o non vivente, crea dei
          "campi di forma"</div>
        <div>implicanti informazioni che misurano diversamente le loro
          quantità qualitative o qualità quantitative: termodinamiche,
          biologiche, matematiche e semantiche.</div>
        <div>Una teoria generale dell'informazione non può non tenere
          conto di queste cose che non escludono niente e nessuno, ma
          includono partendo "dal basso verso l'alto" i sistemi naturali
          e umani a  complessità crescente in ragione della loro
          dinamica storico-evolutiva.</div>
        <div>Con molta umiltà sostengo questi concetti-principi da
          sempre in buona compagnia dei più grandi e illuminati
          scienziati-studiosi di tutti i tempi come dimostrano</div>
        <div>le dozzine di libri che ho composto in proposito.
          Beninteso, sappiate che io mi definisco o riconosco come un
          "poverino esponenziale" sempre grato</div>
        <div>a voi tutti, a partire da Pedro, che ho avuto la fortuna e
          il privilegio di apprezzare, conoscere e incontrare.</div>
        <div>Grazie,</div>
        <div>Un abbraccio.</div>
        <div>Francesco.</div>
        <div>,. .</div>
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      <div class="gmail_quote">
        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Il giorno mar 29 set 2020 alle
          ore 20:00 Loet Leydesdorff <<a href="mailto:loet@leydesdorff.net" moz-do-not-send="true">loet@leydesdorff.net</a>>
          ha scritto:<br />
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            <div id="gmail-m_6818058538366332855xb59c9a6dd372478">
              <blockquote cite="http://632f8fa8-910b-63f0-e206-0e3ae2c89593@aragon.es" type="cite" class="gmail-m_6818058538366332855cite2">
                <div>About the loop you mention in the definition of
                  information proposed in Principle 1, there is a very
                  clear starting point: the origins of life. </div>
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              I don't think that evolution is emanating from a starting
              point. Complexity is constructed in terms of resonances ex
              post. The forward perspective can only see the
              morphogenesis "bottom up", but not the emerging control
              mechanisms and their interactions.</div>
            <div id="gmail-m_6818058538366332855xb59c9a6dd372478"><br />
            </div>
            <div id="gmail-m_6818058538366332855xb59c9a6dd372478">In
              other words, historical development is to be distinguished
              from evolutionary dynamics. Otherwise, the explanation
              becomes "historicistic".</div>
            <div id="gmail-m_6818058538366332855xb59c9a6dd372478"><br />
            </div>
            <div id="gmail-m_6818058538366332855xb59c9a6dd372478">Best,</div>
            <div id="gmail-m_6818058538366332855xb59c9a6dd372478">Loet. <br />
              <blockquote cite="http://632f8fa8-910b-63f0-e206-0e3ae2c89593@aragon.es" type="cite" class="gmail-m_6818058538366332855cite2">
                <div><br />
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                <div>Best greetings</div>
                <div>--Pedro<br />
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                <div> El 25/09/2020 a las 13:46, Christophe Menant
                  escribió:<br />
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                    <span lang="EN-US">Dear Pedro, <br />
                      It is true that using constraints relative to 3000
                      genes would bring in a level of complexity <span> </span>difficult
                      to manage. But the usage of the Meaning Genartaor
                      System is with higher level entities where the
                      constraints are of a generic type, like “Stay
                      alive” and “Look for happiness”. <span> </span>By
                      the way, I’m not alone on that perspective. See <a href="https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-030-01198-7_6#aboutcontent" moz-do-not-send="true">
https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-030-01198-7_6#aboutcontent</a><span> </span>where
                      different type of “control constraints” are
                      introduced at basic life level, associated to
                      “meaningful interpretation” and “significances”.
                      Also, the<span>  </span>concept of constraint
                      satisfaction as an entry point to cognition looks
                      as accepted by the community (“a system is
                      cognitive if and only if sensory inputs serve to
                      trigger actions in a specific way, so as to
                      satisfy a viability constraint” [Bourgine, Stewart
                      2004]). <span>  </span>So I don’t see very well
                      why there is a reluctance to use a system approach
                      on meaning generation for constraint satisfaction.
                      What would be your position on that point?<br />
                      An advantage of the system approach is to allow
                      the modeling of meaning generation in artificial
                      agents with derived constraints. Meaning
                      generation in living entities and in AAs can then
                      be compared with the same tool. This highlights
                      some concerns relative to artificial life and
                      artificial intelligence, with ethical components (<a href="https://philpapers.org/archive/MENTTC-2.pdf" moz-do-not-send="true">https://philpapers.org/archive/MENTTC-2.pdf</a>
                      ). <br />
                      On that subject I do not see very well how the 10
                      principles are linked to artificial cognition,
                      which is, I feel, an important item for principles
                      of information in our world where artificial
                      agents participate more and more to all components
                      of our lives. Could you tell us more on that? <br />
                      All the best <br />
                      Christophe<br />
                    </span><span lang="EN-US">Bourgine, P. Stewart, J.
                      (2004) ‘Autopoiesis and cognition’ Artificial
                      life, Summer 2004, Vol. 10, No. 3, MIT Press
                      Journals. <a href="http://www.mitpressjournals.org/doi/abs/10.1162/1064546041255557#.VJLBnCuG-UI" moz-do-not-send="true">
http://www.mitpressjournals.org/doi/abs/10.1162/1064546041255557#.VJLBnCuG-UI</a></span><br />
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                    <div id="gmail-m_6818058538366332855divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font style="font-size:11pt" face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000"><b>De
                          :</b> Fis <a href="mailto:fis-bounces@listas.unizar.es" moz-do-not-send="true"><fis-bounces@listas.unizar.es></a>
                        de la part de Pedro C. Marijuan <a href="mailto:pcmarijuan.iacs@aragon.es" moz-do-not-send="true"><pcmarijuan.iacs@aragon.es></a><br />
                        <b>Envoyé :</b> vendredi 18 septembre 2020 20:01<br />
                        <b>À :</b> 'fis' <a href="mailto:fis@listas.unizar.es" moz-do-not-send="true"><fis@listas.unizar.es></a><br />
                        <b>Objet :</b> Re: [Fis] Fwd: The 10 Principles</font>
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                    <div>Dear All,<br />
                      Thanks to Jose Javier for his comments. Regarding
                      the loop you mention about distinction, you are
                      right, but this is a very characteristic of life
                      (see that Maturana and Varela already said
                      something pretty similar in their Tree of
                      Knowledge). In the other biological principles
                      that follow (below)  I try to clarify that notion
                      in several directions, particularly concerning
                      signaling systems, a concept which was completely
                      ignored until well in the 1990s. Your second
                      comment may be partially responded looking at
                      those further principles dealing with the symbolic
                      communication via language and the social
                      narratives, not far from what you have pointed.
                      Thus I include the whole principles herein.<br />
                      <p style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;text-align:justify;line-height:14pt">
                        <span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US">1.
                          Information is distinction on an <i> adjacent
                          </i>difference. <span style="color:red"></span></span></p>
                      <p style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;text-align:justify;line-height:14pt">
                        <span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US">2.
                          Information processes consist in organized
                          action upon differences collected onto
                          structures, patterns, sequences, messages, or
                          flows.</span></p>
                      <p style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;text-align:justify;line-height:14pt">
                        <span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US">3.
                          Information flows are essential organizers of
                          life's self-production process –the life
                          cycle– anticipating, shaping, and mixing up
                          with the accompanying energy flows.</span></p>
                      <p style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;text-align:justify;line-height:14pt">
                        <span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US">4.
                          Proto-phenomena of meaning, knowledge, and
                          cognition (& intelligence) emerge via
                          signaling systems of living cells, fully
                          developed in the action/perception cycle of
                          central nervous systems.</span></p>
                      <p style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;text-align:justify;line-height:14pt">
                        <span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US">5.
                          Information/communication exchanges among
                          adaptive life-cycles underlie the complexity
                          of biological organization at all scales.</span></p>
                      <p style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;text-align:justify;line-height:14pt">
                        <span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US">6. It
                          is symbolic language what conveys the
                          essential communication exchanges of
                          individuals —and constitutes the core of human
                          "social nature."</span></p>
                      <p style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;text-align:justify;line-height:14pt">
                        <span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US">7.
                          Human information can be transformed into
                          efficient knowledge by following the
                          "knowledge instinct", further enhanced and
                          delimited by collectively applying rigorous
                          methodologies.</span></p>
                      <p style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;text-align:justify;line-height:14pt">
                        <span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US">8.
                          Human cognitive limitations are partially
                          overcome via "knowledge ecologies", where
                          knowledge circulates and recombines socially
                          in a continuous actualization that involves
                          "creative destruction" of theories, practices,
                          and disciplines.</span></p>
                      <p style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;text-align:justify;line-height:14pt">
                        <span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US">9.
                          Narratives become encapsulated forms of
                          “natural intelligence”, tailored to capture
                          collective attention and memory, and essential
                          for the cohesion of social, political, and
                          economic structures.</span></p>
                      <p style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;text-align:justify;line-height:14pt">
                        <span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US">10.
                          Information science proposes a new, radical
                          vision on how information and knowledge
                          surround individual lives, with profound
                          consequences for scientific-philosophical
                          practice and for social governance.</span></p>
                      <br />
                      <p>Briefly referring to the other discussion track
                        (Christophe), I quite agree with situating the
                        origins of (genuine) meaning with living beings,
                        but have some trouble with "constraints" when
                        generally applied to biological cognition. I
                        think they may be more useful in other fields
                        (originated in kinematics, they become more and
                        more volatile as used in Dynamic Systems Theory,
                        and similarly weakened when going from AI to
                        biological cognition). For instance,  given
                        3,000 genes in Ecoli, organized in mixed
                        clusters of fiendish complexity, how do you
                        establish meaningful constraints? Or can even
                        attribute separate "functions"? You may see in
                        DOI:<a href="https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.researchgate.net%2Fderef%2Fhttp%253A%252F%252Fdx.doi.org%252F10.1016%252Fj.pbiomolbio.2015.07.002%3F_sg%255B0%255D%3DnH-ziIzFNlPKAqMszwKA9aJSdUF_He_Rfcal3jUKXaF_lvDrbTWXcTEDtf5uNRaHZMzJ0MFczgM3J-aub54-p6oiQA.Vi1baoaYqIl4vlby-pQVd58ob8urom6m0dhZo1yJ26_NjwihWirad9bxSivcVUymzy-vS1FcL9dD4ZQ7UDtz_w&data=02%7C01%7C%7C13a6b1012e6746c2a97208d85bfd00a1%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637360489476081481&sdata=Gs6M4SxmClw83ShkAl9Vf7UIYyppHAAUxprvHFtZDRY%3D&reserved=0" moz-do-not-send="true">
                          10.1016/j.pbiomolbio.2015.07.002</a><span>   </span><span>the
                          very dimensions of this ontology problem.</span><a href="https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.researchgate.net%2Fderef%2Fhttp%253A%252F%252Fdx.doi.org%252F10.1016%252Fj.pbiomolbio.2015.07.002%3F_sg%255B0%255D%3DnH-ziIzFNlPKAqMszwKA9aJSdUF_He_Rfcal3jUKXaF_lvDrbTWXcTEDtf5uNRaHZMzJ0MFczgM3J-aub54-p6oiQA.Vi1baoaYqIl4vlby-pQVd58ob8urom6m0dhZo1yJ26_NjwihWirad9bxSivcVUymzy-vS1FcL9dD4ZQ7UDtz_w&data=02%7C01%7C%7C13a6b1012e6746c2a97208d85bfd00a1%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637360489476091476&sdata=sVOZBlgJExzw%2F4z0j2flYw5BaV%2FXYR7jFcpIMyFnP3g%3D&reserved=0" moz-do-not-send="true"><br />
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                      <p>Regarding Marcus' comment on life as
                        imprecisely defined (and whether viruses or Gaia
                        are 'alive'), the fundamental issue in natural
                        sciences is "explaining" rather than defining.
                        And fortunately the advancement in our
                        explanations of life in last decades has been
                        fantastic. Life can now be characterized in
                        every basic aspect with amazing depth. One
                        cannot give a precise definition of life, but
                        one can provide a list of essential
                        characteristics, and at the center are the
                        informational ones. Empirically, the point is
                        that information appears to be so ingrained in
                        the molecular organization of life that scores
                        of new bio-disciplines have been recently
                        launched around it: bioinformatics,
                        bioinformation, biocomputation, all the "omic"
                        fields, signaling science, etc. Biosemiotics
                        could be included too, but Hélas, most
                        biosemioticians continue to "read" the DNA
                        meaning via the genetic code, rather than
                        exploring the "signals" abduced from the
                        environment and "distinctionally worked out and
                        transcribed in genes--from which ultimately
                        "meaning" emerges. About viruses concretely,
                        they have been essential in the origins of
                        eukaryotic complexity and in the dynamic balance
                        of marine and terrestrial ecosystems...
                        irrespective on how we consider their degree of
                        "aliveness". And finally "non comment" about
                        some (baiting?) expressions in your previous
                        reply. <br />
                      </p>
                      <p>I see right now the careful "review" by Loet:
                        better for a next occasion!<br />
                      </p>
                      <p>Best--Pedro</p>
                      <p>PS. The Three Messages per Week are counted
                        following the international business week (from
                        Monday to Sunday included).<br />
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