<div dir="auto">Information is not created but is a part of the culisse. The weight difference the carrier experiences when lifting something with both arms. Right arm says: x kg +/- d1%, left arm says y kg +/- d2%. Weight = (x+y) /2. Slack, tolerance, information = (d1+d2) /2.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Right arm: counting spatial (similar) units, left arm: counting qualitative (diverse) units. The metrics have a total of imprecision of max 3.4E-93%. (<a href="http://oeis.org/A242615">oeis.org/A242615</a>).</div><div dir="auto">The two counting lines are not quite identical. The max deviation is near n=66 with order of magnitude E-95. One should do the integration along N for the total amount of discrepancy.</div><div dir="auto">As to subunits f(n), please consider my last post, once more detailing Information = expectation - is the case.</div><div dir="auto">Danke </div><div dir="auto">Karl </div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Krassimir Markov <<a href="mailto:markov@foibg.com">markov@foibg.com</a>> schrieb am Mo., 21. Sep. 2020, 15:45:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div><font size="4">Dear Joseph and Pedro,</font></div><font size="4">
<div><br>I still do not agree with the first principle.<br></div>
<div>Joseph had written and Pedro had confirmed that :<br><br><font face="Lucida Sans Unicode"><font style="FONT-SIZE:11pt" color="#000080">“information (2) is produced in MAKING a distinction on an
adjacent difference = information (1)</font></font><br><br>In other words,
information (n) is created from information (n-1).<br><br>This is simple series
which we may write as follow:<br></div></font><font style="FONT-SIZE:13.6pt"></font>
<div><font style="FONT-SIZE:13.6pt">information (0) –> information (1) –>
... –> </font><font style="FONT-SIZE:13.6pt">information (n-1) –>
information (n) –> ....</font><br></div>
<div><font size="4">A Simple Question:</font></div>
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<div><font size="4">Who creates <font><font style="FONT-SIZE:13.6pt">information (0) ?</font></font></font></div>
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<div><font size="4">Friendly greetings</font></div>
<div><font size="4">Krassimir</font></div>
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<div><b>From:</b> <a title="joe.brenner@bluewin.ch" href="mailto:joe.brenner@bluewin.ch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">Joseph Brenner</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 18, 2020 11:19 PM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title="markov@foibg.com" href="mailto:markov@foibg.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">'Krassimir Markov'</a> </div>
<div><b>Cc:</b> <a title="fis@listas.unizar.es" href="mailto:fis@listas.unizar.es" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">fis</a> </div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Fis] Fwd: The 10 Principles. Information as
Process</div></div></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" size="2" face="Lucida Sans Unicode"><span lang="EN-GB" style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;FONT-FAMILY:"Lucida Sans Unicode";COLOR:navy">Dear
Pedro, Dear Krassimir,<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" size="2" face="Lucida Sans Unicode"><span lang="EN-GB" style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;FONT-FAMILY:"Lucida Sans Unicode";COLOR:navy">For me,
the problem is clearly a result of using a common noun, information, to describe
a complex process rather than a participle form – informationing. Then,
“information IS a distinction” should be replaced by “information (2) is
produced in MAKING a distinction on an adjacent difference = information (1).
Then, of course the 1<sup>st</sup> principle is recursive, but correctly so!
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" size="2" face="Lucida Sans Unicode"><span lang="EN-GB" style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;FONT-FAMILY:"Lucida Sans Unicode";COLOR:navy">Best,<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" size="2" face="Lucida Sans Unicode"><span lang="EN-GB" style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;FONT-FAMILY:"Lucida Sans Unicode";COLOR:navy">Joseph<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:tahoma;FONT-WEIGHT:bold">From:</span></font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:tahoma"> Fis
[mailto:<a href="mailto:fis-bounces@listas.unizar.es" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">fis-bounces@listas.unizar.es</a>] <b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold">On
Behalf Of </span></b>Krassimir Markov<br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold">Sent:</span></b> vendredi, 18 septembre 2020
21:40<br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold">To:</span></b> FIS<br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Fis] Fwd: The 10
Principles</span></font><span lang="EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" size="4" face="Calibri"><span style="FONT-SIZE:13.5pt;FONT-FAMILY:calibri;COLOR:black">Dear
Pedro,</span></font><font color="black" size="4" face="Calibri"><span style="FONT-SIZE:14pt;FONT-FAMILY:calibri;COLOR:black"><u></u><u></u></span></font></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" size="4" face="Calibri"><span style="FONT-SIZE:13.5pt;FONT-FAMILY:calibri;COLOR:black">I still not agree
with the first principle.<br>In this form it is recursive!</span></font><font color="black" size="4" face="Calibri"><span style="FONT-SIZE:14pt;FONT-FAMILY:calibri;COLOR:black"><u></u><u></u></span></font></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" size="4" face="Calibri"><span style="FONT-SIZE:13.5pt;FONT-FAMILY:calibri;COLOR:black">Information needs
itself to became information, because difference could not be distinguished
without information.<br>In this form, the first principle sound like
this:</span></font><font color="black" size="4" face="Calibri"><span style="FONT-SIZE:14pt;FONT-FAMILY:calibri;COLOR:black"><u></u><u></u></span></font></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" size="4" face="Calibri"><span style="FONT-SIZE:13.5pt;FONT-FAMILY:calibri;COLOR:black">Information is
distinction of information ! <u></u><u></u></span></font></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" size="4" face="Calibri"><span style="FONT-SIZE:13.5pt;FONT-FAMILY:calibri;COLOR:black">Sorry!</span></font><font color="black" size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:tahoma;COLOR:black"><u></u><u></u></span></font></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" size="4" face="Calibri"><span style="FONT-SIZE:13.5pt;FONT-FAMILY:calibri;COLOR:black">Friendly
greetings</span></font><font color="black" size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:tahoma;COLOR:black"><u></u><u></u></span></font></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" size="4" face="Calibri"><span style="FONT-SIZE:13.5pt;FONT-FAMILY:calibri;COLOR:black">Krassimir</span></font><font color="black" size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:tahoma;COLOR:black"><u></u><u></u></span></font></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="BACKGROUND:whitesmoke"><b><font color="black" size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:tahoma;FONT-WEIGHT:bold;COLOR:black">From:</span></font></b><font color="black" size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:tahoma;COLOR:black"> <a title="pcmarijuan.iacs@aragon.es" href="mailto:pcmarijuan.iacs@aragon.es" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">Pedro C.
Marijuan</a> <u></u><u></u></span></font></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="BACKGROUND:whitesmoke"><b><font color="black" size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:tahoma;FONT-WEIGHT:bold;COLOR:black">Sent:</span></font></b><font color="black" size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:tahoma;COLOR:black"> Friday, September
18, 2020 9:01 PM<u></u><u></u></span></font></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="BACKGROUND:whitesmoke"><b><font color="black" size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:tahoma;FONT-WEIGHT:bold;COLOR:black">To:</span></font></b><font color="black" size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:tahoma;COLOR:black"> <a title="fis@listas.unizar.es" href="mailto:fis@listas.unizar.es" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">'fis'</a>
<u></u><u></u></span></font></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="BACKGROUND:whitesmoke"><b><font color="black" size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:tahoma;FONT-WEIGHT:bold;COLOR:black">Subject:</span></font></b><font color="black" size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:tahoma;COLOR:black"> Re: [Fis] Fwd: The
10 Principles<u></u><u></u></span></font></p></div></div></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" size="3" face="Calibri"><span style="FONT-SIZE:12pt;FONT-FAMILY:calibri;COLOR:black">Dear All,<br>Thanks
to Jose Javier for his comments. Regarding the loop you mention about
distinction, you are right, but this is a very characteristic of life (see that
Maturana and Varela already said something pretty similar in their Tree of
Knowledge). In the other biological principles that follow (below) I try
to clarify that notion in several directions, particularly concerning signaling
systems, a concept which was completely ignored until well in the 1990s. Your
second comment may be partially responded looking at those further principles
dealing with the symbolic communication via language and the social narratives,
not far from what you have pointed. Thus I include the whole principles
herein.<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="TEXT-ALIGN:justify;LINE-HEIGHT:14pt"><font color="black" size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE:12pt;COLOR:black">1. Information is distinction on an
<i><span style="FONT-STYLE:italic">adjacent </span></i>difference.
</span><u></u><u></u></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="TEXT-ALIGN:justify;LINE-HEIGHT:14pt"><font color="black" size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE:12pt;COLOR:black">2. Information processes consist in
organized action upon differences collected onto structures, patterns,
sequences, messages, or flows.</span><u></u><u></u></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="TEXT-ALIGN:justify;LINE-HEIGHT:14pt"><font color="black" size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE:12pt;COLOR:black">3. Information flows are essential
organizers of life's self-production process –the life cycle– anticipating,
shaping, and mixing up with the accompanying energy
flows.</span><u></u><u></u></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="TEXT-ALIGN:justify;LINE-HEIGHT:14pt"><font color="black" size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE:12pt;COLOR:black">4. Proto-phenomena of meaning, knowledge,
and cognition (& intelligence) emerge via signaling systems of living cells,
fully developed in the action/perception cycle of central nervous
systems.</span><u></u><u></u></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="TEXT-ALIGN:justify;LINE-HEIGHT:14pt"><font color="black" size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE:12pt;COLOR:black">5. Information/communication exchanges
among adaptive life-cycles underlie the complexity of biological organization at
all scales.</span><u></u><u></u></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="TEXT-ALIGN:justify;LINE-HEIGHT:14pt"><font color="black" size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE:12pt;COLOR:black">6. It is symbolic language what conveys
the essential communication exchanges of individuals —and constitutes the core
of human "social nature."</span><u></u><u></u></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="TEXT-ALIGN:justify;LINE-HEIGHT:14pt"><font color="black" size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE:12pt;COLOR:black">7. Human information can be transformed
into efficient knowledge by following the "knowledge instinct", further enhanced
and delimited by collectively applying rigorous
methodologies.</span><u></u><u></u></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="TEXT-ALIGN:justify;LINE-HEIGHT:14pt"><font color="black" size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE:12pt;COLOR:black">8. Human cognitive limitations are
partially overcome via "knowledge ecologies", where knowledge circulates and
recombines socially in a continuous actualization that involves "creative
destruction" of theories, practices, and
disciplines.</span><u></u><u></u></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="TEXT-ALIGN:justify;LINE-HEIGHT:14pt"><font color="black" size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE:12pt;COLOR:black">9. Narratives become encapsulated forms of
“natural intelligence”, tailored to capture collective attention and memory, and
essential for the cohesion of social, political, and economic
structures.</span><u></u><u></u></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="TEXT-ALIGN:justify;LINE-HEIGHT:14pt"><font color="black" size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE:12pt;COLOR:black">10. Information science proposes a new,
radical vision on how information and knowledge surround individual lives, with
profound consequences for scientific-philosophical practice and for social
governance.</span><u></u><u></u></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" size="3" face="Calibri"><span style="FONT-SIZE:12pt;FONT-FAMILY:calibri;COLOR:black"><u></u><u></u></span></font> </p>
<p><font color="black" size="3" face="Calibri"><span style="FONT-SIZE:12pt;FONT-FAMILY:calibri;COLOR:black">Briefly referring to
the other discussion track (Christophe), I quite agree with situating the
origins of (genuine) meaning with living beings, but have some trouble with
"constraints" when generally applied to biological cognition. I think they may
be more useful in other fields (originated in kinematics, they become more and
more volatile as used in Dynamic Systems Theory, and similarly weakened when
going from AI to biological cognition). For instance, given 3,000 genes in
Ecoli, organized in mixed clusters of fiendish complexity, how do you establish
meaningful constraints? Or can even attribute separate "functions"? You may see
in DOI:<a href="https://www.researchgate.net/deref/http%3A%2F%2Fdx.doi.org%2F10.1016%2Fj.pbiomolbio.2015.07.002?_sg%5B0%5D=nH-ziIzFNlPKAqMszwKA9aJSdUF_He_Rfcal3jUKXaF_lvDrbTWXcTEDtf5uNRaHZMzJ0MFczgM3J-aub54-p6oiQA.Vi1baoaYqIl4vlby-pQVd58ob8urom6m0dhZo1yJ26_NjwihWirad9bxSivcVUymzy-vS1FcL9dD4ZQ7UDtz_w" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">
10.1016/j.pbiomolbio.2015.07.002</a><span>
</span><span>the
very dimensions of this ontology problem.</span><a href="https://www.researchgate.net/deref/http%3A%2F%2Fdx.doi.org%2F10.1016%2Fj.pbiomolbio.2015.07.002?_sg%5B0%5D=nH-ziIzFNlPKAqMszwKA9aJSdUF_He_Rfcal3jUKXaF_lvDrbTWXcTEDtf5uNRaHZMzJ0MFczgM3J-aub54-p6oiQA.Vi1baoaYqIl4vlby-pQVd58ob8urom6m0dhZo1yJ26_NjwihWirad9bxSivcVUymzy-vS1FcL9dD4ZQ7UDtz_w" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"><br></a><u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p><font color="black" size="3" face="Calibri"><span style="FONT-SIZE:12pt;FONT-FAMILY:calibri;COLOR:black">Regarding Marcus'
comment on life as imprecisely defined (and whether viruses or Gaia are
'alive'), the fundamental issue in natural sciences is "explaining" rather than
defining. And fortunately the advancement in our explanations of life in last
decades has been fantastic. Life can now be characterized in every basic aspect
with amazing depth. One cannot give a precise definition of life, but one can
provide a list of essential characteristics, and at the center are the
informational ones. Empirically, the point is that information appears to be so
ingrained in the molecular organization of life that scores of new
bio-disciplines have been recently launched around it: bioinformatics,
bioinformation, biocomputation, all the "omic" fields, signaling science, etc.
Biosemiotics could be included too, but Hélas, most biosemioticians continue to
"read" the DNA meaning via the genetic code, rather than exploring the "signals"
abduced from the environment and "distinctionally worked out and transcribed in
genes--from which ultimately "meaning" emerges. About viruses concretely, they
have been essential in the origins of eukaryotic complexity and in the dynamic
balance of marine and terrestrial ecosystems... irrespective on how we consider
their degree of "aliveness". And finally "non comment" about some (baiting?)
expressions in your previous reply. <u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p><font color="black" size="3" face="Calibri"><span style="FONT-SIZE:12pt;FONT-FAMILY:calibri;COLOR:black">I see right now the
careful "review" by Loet: better for a next
occasion!<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p><font color="black" size="3" face="Calibri"><span style="FONT-SIZE:12pt;FONT-FAMILY:calibri;COLOR:black">Best--Pedro<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p><font color="black" size="3" face="Calibri"><span style="FONT-SIZE:12pt;FONT-FAMILY:calibri;COLOR:black">PS. The Three
Messages per Week are counted following the international business week (from
Monday to Sunday included).<u></u><u></u></span></font></p><pre cols="72"><font color="black" size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;COLOR:black">-- <u></u><u></u></span></font></pre><pre><font color="black" size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;COLOR:black">-------------------------------------------------<u></u><u></u></span></font></pre><pre><font color="black" size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;COLOR:black">Pedro C. Marijuán<u></u><u></u></span></font></pre><pre><font color="black" size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;COLOR:black">Grupo de Bioinformación / Bioinformation Group<u></u><u></u></span></font></pre><pre><font color="black" size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;COLOR:black"><u></u><u></u></span></font> </pre><pre><font color="black" size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;COLOR:black"><a href="mailto:pcmarijuan.iacs@aragon.es" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">pcmarijuan.iacs@aragon.es</a><u></u><u></u></span></font></pre><pre><font color="black" size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;COLOR:black"><a href="http://sites.google.com/site/pedrocmarijuan/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">http://sites.google.com/site/pedrocmarijuan/</a><u></u><u></u></span></font></pre><pre><font color="black" size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;COLOR:black">------------------------------------------------- <u></u><u></u></span></font></pre>
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