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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Dear List,</div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">I am responding to Moisés having in
mind some good points mainly from Marcus and Krassimir (not to
forget Yixin, Loet, and many others). There could be a top-down
approach to establish, say, some general 10 points (or better, a
series of basic principles). And also a complementary view of
establishing particular bottom-up tables for different
disciplines, as Moisés discusses. It is not contradictory. At the
time being, however, trying to establish clear and cut general
classifications of information may be premature and not very
practical. It is inevitable that our own particular approaches are
colored by the main expertise each one has. In my own case, I do
not mean "biology" but LIFE. It is very different. The genuine
properties of information appear with life: the capability to
persist and react and relate according to inner drives unseen in
inanimate matter. The expansion of biotic realms and the further
generation of more and more complexity brings forth more and more
forms of information (& meaning, & knowledge, languages,
etc.). Thus we may speak of an "informational way of existence"
that in different ways manifests in cells, organisms, societies,
companies, institutions, etc. Grasping its essentials could
seemingly be done in both bottom-up and top down. <br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Then, a little bit from our bacterial
grand-grand-mothers. When they feed (on their basic staples) they
ingest them from the environment via specialized pumps and
transporters. But before fabricating those transporters, they have
to detect the existence of the substance in question. And they do
that via specialized receptors (1-2-3 component systems); with
them they can also communicate with conspecifics or interfere with
rival species, and many other things. Jorge Navarro and me
compiled a couple of good reviews about those signaling systems.
Thus, there is a genuine energy flow that is entered into the
bacterial system, yes, but it is supported and intertwined with an
information flow that continuously tells the system about its
external and internal environs. It is not so different from the
way we vertebrates have our own flows. On the one side, we have a
digestive tube to catch free energy from our food, plus another
tube, all along the Central Nervous System from the brain to the
end of the spine (full of the cerebrospinal fluid) to catch
information. It is an ancestral trait, say, derived from
prechordates. One tube processes the energy flow, the other
processes the information flow. Not to forget that in both the
bacterial and the vertebrate the energy&info flows are the
necessary support of a life cycle in progress. To emphasize the
latter: the life cycle has a towering presence in all the
informational existential arrangements (not in abstract, it is
just our private lives!)<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">That preamble (with far more adornment)
could be the basis of a new way of thinking that properly deployed
would lead, or would condense, in some renewed 10 principles--or
more realistic, just 10 points. So, rather than repeating the
tautology (info is info), I suggest that Point 1 and 2 could be
something like this:</div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">1. Information as such: distinction of
a difference.</div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">2. Information processes: addressed to
signaling&communication, and potentially involving the stages
of generation, encoding, emission, transmission channel,
reception, decoding/processing, meaning, response.</div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">3. to be continued...<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Greetings to all</div>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">--Pedro<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">El 05/07/2020 a las 16:30, Moisés André
Nisenbaum escribió:<br>
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<div>Dear friends.<br>
It is very nice to hear from you and I hope everybody is
well and healthy.<br>
The 10 principles table is amazing. I love good and
intelligent summarizations :-)<br>
But it is important to remember that the concept of
information is context dependent (for example: biological,
physical, social, philosophical, etc.)<br>
So, in my opinion, it should have "n" tables, one for each
context.<br>
These tables may be related, forming a classification or
even an ontology.<br>
For those who believe that the concept of information can be
unified, I guess that the construction of these tables would
be the first step.<br>
We are 102 specialists in the FIS list. Wouldn't be an
interesting collective project to build this
multidimensional object composed of tables with
interdisciplinary connections?<br>
What do you think?<br>
Cheers<br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Em dom., 28 de jun. de 2020 às
14:58, Loet Leydesdorff <<a
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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find it difficult to follow. I added some comments
and questions?</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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align="center"><b>1. Information is a primary
concept</b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">1. Information <font
color="#ff0000">can be considered</font> as
information, neither matter nor energy.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#ff0000">Matter
is expressed as mass (e.g. kilograms).
Energy in Watts; information in
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<p class="MsoNormal">1. Information is a class
of reflections in material entities. Not every
reflection is information. <b><i>Only </i></b><b><i><span
style="color:red">subjectively
comprehended </span></i></b><b><i>reflections
are information. Not comprehended
reflections are data.</i></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font color="#ff0000">Why
subjectively? Why “data” instead of
information.</font></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font color="#ff0000">It
seems that there can be mutual information
between information and reflections? -:)</font></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">2. Information is <span
style="color:red">comprehended </span>into
structures, patterns, messages, or flows. <font
color="#ff0000">What do you mean with
“comprehended”? Who is comprehending?</font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">2. Reflections may be
comprehended as structures, patterns,
messages, flows, etc.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#ff0000">What
is reflected by whom </font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#ff0000">Or is
this universally the case? </font></p>
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recognized, can be measured, and can be
processed (either computationally or
non-computationally).</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">3. Reflections can be
recognized, can be measured—<font
color="#ff0000">what is the dimensionality</font>?
How can it be measured? , and can be processed
(either computationally or
non-computationally).</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#ff0000">The
measurement is not clear. </font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">4. <span style="color:red">Information
</span>(i<font color="#ff0000">t seems to me
that these are entropy and energy flows</font>)
flows are essential organizers of life's
self-production processes--anticipating,
shaping, and <span style="color:red">mixing </span>up
(vague) with the accompanying energy flows.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">4. Reflection flows are
essential organizers of life's self-production
processes--anticipating, shaping, and mixing
up with the accompanying energy flows.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">5.
Communication/information exchanges among
adaptive life-cycles underlie the complexity
of biological organizations at all scales.<span
style="color:red">Perhaps even beyond
biology.</span><span style="color:red"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">5. Communication is based
on special kind of reflections created by one
entity and reflected by a second one. This
way, the reflections comprehended as
information by the first entity may be
secondary reflected by the second one. Such
information exchanges among adaptive
life-cycles underlie the complexity of
biological organizations at all scales.</p>
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University of Amsterdam<br>
Amsterdam School of
Communication Research (ASCoR)</span></p>
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<div>Subject: [Fis] 10 Principles</div>
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<div><font size="4">Dear Marcus and FIS Colleagues,<br>
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<div><font size="4">From my point of view the main
choice which has to be made in the very
beginning is between two opposite cases:</font></div>
<div><font size="4">1. <b>Information is a primary
concept</b></font></div>
<div><font size="4"><b>2. </b><b>Information is a
secondary concept</b></font></div>
<div><font size="4">This is fundamental choice which
cause all further work.</font></div>
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As I already had pointed, if information is a
primary concept than no theories about
information can be created. One may create many
other theories for EVERYTHING but not for
information. Only infinite variety of examples
may be created but not fruitful theory and
discussions. For instance, the religious
approach belong to this class.</font></div>
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The second case gives us possibility to create
theories ABOUT information starting from one or
more other primary concepts.</font></div>
<div><font size="4">I prefer the second case. The
primary concepts I have used are Entity and
Relationship (<a
title="http://www.foibg.com/ijita/vol14/ijita14-1-p01.pdf"
href="http://www.foibg.com/ijita/vol14/ijita14-1-p01.pdf"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.foibg.com/ijita/vol14/ijita14-1-p01.pdf</a>),
and Reflection as a result of interaction
between entities.<br>
<br>
To illustrate the difference between two cases,
let see the first 5 principles of Pedro in the
two variants: </font></div>
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10pt;line-height:normal"><font face="Times
New Roman">1. Information is a class of
reflections in material entities. Not
every reflection is information. <b><i>Only
subjectively comprehended
reflections are information. Not
comprehended reflections are data.</i></b></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm
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comprehended into structures, patterns,
messages, or flows.</font></p>
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comprehended as structures, patterns,
messages, flows, etc.</font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm
10pt;line-height:normal"><font face="Times
New Roman">3. Information can be
recognized, can be measured, and can be
processed (either computationally or
non-computationally).</font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm
10pt;line-height:normal"><font face="Times
New Roman">3. Reflections can be
recognized, can be measured, and can be
processed (either computationally or
non-computationally).</font></p>
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solid;border-top-color:initial;border-right-color:windowtext;border-bottom-color:windowtext;padding:0cm
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm
10pt;line-height:normal"><font face="Times
New Roman">4. Information flows are
essential organizers of life's
self-production processes--anticipating,
shaping, and mixing up with the
accompanying energy flows.</font></p>
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<td style="border-width:medium 1pt 1pt
medium;border-style:none solid solid
none;border-top-color:initial;border-right-color:windowtext;border-bottom-color:windowtext;padding:0cm
5.4pt;border-left-color:initial" width="426"
valign="top">
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm
10pt;line-height:normal"><font face="Times
New Roman">4. Reflection flows are
essential organizers of life's
self-production processes--anticipating,
shaping, and mixing up with the
accompanying energy flows.</font></p>
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<td style="border-width:medium 1pt
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm
10pt;line-height:normal"><font face="Times
New Roman">5. Communication/information
exchanges among adaptive life-cycles
underlie the complexity of biological
organizations at all scales.</font></p>
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medium;border-style:none solid solid
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm
10pt;line-height:normal"><font face="Times
New Roman">5. Communication is based on
special kind of reflections created by
one entity and reflected by a second
one. This way, the reflections
comprehended as information by the first
entity may be secondary reflected by the
second one. Such information exchanges
among adaptive life-cycles underlie the
complexity of biological organizations
at all scales.</font></p>
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me. If such ones exist, please write to me and
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<div><font size="4">Friendly greetings</font></div>
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