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<body><div id="x18210dc1d3e8404"><blockquote cite="PR1PR02MB53382A78E3AB2760796672B08C6F0@pr1pr02mb5338.eurprd02.prod.outlook.com" type="cite" class="cite2"><div><div style="font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
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mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:FR;mso-bidi-language:AR-SA">* Information exists only by and for agents that manage the meaning associated to it. Without its associated meaning, information has no reason to exist.</span></div></div></blockquote><font face="Times New Roman, serif"><div id="x18210dc1d3e8404"><font face="Times New Roman, serif">I prefer information which is measurable in bits (nits, dits, etc.). Indeed, information does not "exist" in the sense of <i>esse, </i>but it is a useful statistic. Information can be provided with meaning when the system(s) of reference is determined. </font></div><br /></font><blockquote cite="PR1PR02MB53382A78E3AB2760796672B08C6F0@pr1pr02mb5338.eurprd02.prod.outlook.com" type="cite" class="cite2"><div><div style="font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
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* Information can be defined as an energy variation that conveys meaning or participates to meaning generation for an agent (the meaning leading to an action by the agent brings us close to the definition “a difference that makes a difference”). </span></div></div></blockquote><font face="Times New Roman, serif"><div id="x18210dc1d3e8404"><font face="Times New Roman, serif">I recently read Bateson again, but this is not his definition of a difference which makes a difference. I would go for information as a series of differences (as in a probability distribution.) </font></div><div id="x18210dc1d3e8404"><font face="Times New Roman, serif"><br /></font></div><div id="x18210dc1d3e8404"><font face="Times New Roman, serif">A "difference which makes a difference" seems "meaningful information" to me, as different from Shannon-type information. What would be the unit of measurement for "a difference which makes a difference?. Can one count or measure difference which make a difference in bits? </font></div><div id="x18210dc1d3e8404"><font face="Times New Roman, serif"><br /></font></div><div id="x18210dc1d3e8404"><font face="Times New Roman, serif">Or is this just your idiosyncratic definition?</font></div><div id="x18210dc1d3e8404"><font face="Times New Roman, serif"><br /></font></div><div id="x18210dc1d3e8404"><font face="Times New Roman, serif">Perhaps, one can measure "differences which make a difference" as a two-dimensional probability distribution Sigma(p(ij)): i would the differences and j the differences among the differences. Perhaps, this is worthwile to pursue.</font></div><div id="x18210dc1d3e8404"><font face="Times New Roman, serif"><br /></font></div><div id="x18210dc1d3e8404"><font face="Times New Roman, serif">Best,</font></div><div id="x18210dc1d3e8404"><font face="Times New Roman, serif">Loet</font></div><br /></font><blockquote cite="PR1PR02MB53382A78E3AB2760796672B08C6F0@pr1pr02mb5338.eurprd02.prod.outlook.com" type="cite" class="cite2"><div><div style="font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
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can be used for humans, animals and artificial agents, assuming we explicit what is a meaning and what is meaning generation (2020 short paper at
</span><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><a href="https://philpapers.org/archive/MENITA-7.pdf"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:blue;mso-ansi-language:EN-US">https://philpapers.org/archive/MENITA-7.pdf</span></a></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;
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Can these basics be used to look at high levels like attributive, subjective, primary or secondary?
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<b>Envoyé :</b> lundi 29 juin 2020 08:14<br />
<b>À :</b> FIS <<a href="mailto:fis@listas.unizar.es">fis@listas.unizar.es</a>><br />
<b>Objet :</b> Re: [Fis] Fwd: 10 Principles</font>
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<div style="font:10pt tahoma"><font size="4" face="Calibri">The first one is based on understanding that the information exists independently of consciousness and it is everywhere. This is so called “Attributive paradigm”.</font></div>
<div style="font:10pt tahoma"><font size="4" face="Calibri">The second one is the “Subjective paradigm” which is based on understanding that information is a result from consciousness processing and exists only in its memory.</font></div>
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<font color="#000000">The reflection for the Subject is what is activated on its receptors. So, the subject, or INFOS, reflects states of its external and internal sensors.</font></font></font></font></div>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font size="4"><font style="color:#ff0000">The measurement is not clear.<font color="#000000"> Yes! What is happen in the consciousness is still not known. But for practical needs we already used differed structures
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<font face="Calibri" size="4">Why not use information theory for the measurement? (Theil, 1972)</font></div>
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<div style="font:10pt tahoma"><font size="4" face="Calibri">You are welcome for further questions and remarks!</font></div>
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<div style="font:10pt tahoma"><font size="4" face="Calibri">Friendly greetings</font></div>
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<div><b>From:</b> <a title="loet@leydesdorff.net" href="mailto:loet@leydesdorff.net">
Loet Leydesdorff</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, June 28, 2020 8:57 PM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title="markov@foibg.com" href="mailto:markov@foibg.com">Krassimir Markov</a> ;
<a title="fis@listas.unizar.es" href="mailto:fis@listas.unizar.es">FIS</a> </div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fis] 10 Principles</div>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center"><b>1. Information is a primary concept</b><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center"><b>2. Information is a secondary concept</b><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">1. Information <font color="#ff0000">can be considered</font> as information, neither matter nor energy.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">1. Information is a class of reflections in material entities. Not every reflection is information.
<b><i>Only </i></b><b><i><span style="color:red">subjectively comprehended </span>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><b><font color="#ff0000">Why subjectively? Why “data” instead of information.</font><u></u><u></u></b></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><b><font color="#ff0000">It seems that there can be mutual information between information and reflections? -:)</font></b></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">2. Reflections may be comprehended as structures, patterns, messages, flows, etc.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal"><font color="#ff0000">What is reflected by whom </font><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">3. Reflections can be recognized, can be measured—<font color="#ff0000">what is the dimensionality</font>? How can it be measured? , and can be processed (either computationally or non-computationally).<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal"><font color="#ff0000">The measurement is not clear. </font>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">4. <span style="color:red">Information </span>(i<font color="#ff0000">t seems to me that these are entropy and energy flows</font>) flows are essential organizers of life's self-production processes--anticipating, shaping, and
<span style="color:red">mixing </span>up (vague) with the accompanying energy flows.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">4. Reflection flows are essential organizers of life's self-production processes--anticipating, shaping, and mixing up with the accompanying energy flows.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">5. Communication/information exchanges among adaptive life-cycles underlie the complexity of biological organizations at all scales.<span style="color:red">Perhaps even beyond biology.</span><span style="color:red"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">5. Communication is based on special kind of reflections created by one entity and reflected by a second one. This way, the reflections comprehended as information by the first entity may be secondary reflected by the second one. Such
information exchanges among adaptive life-cycles underlie the complexity of biological organizations at all scales.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<div>From: "Krassimir Markov" <<a href="mailto:markov@foibg.com">markov@foibg.com</a>></div>
<div>To: "FIS" <<a href="mailto:fis@listas.unizar.es">fis@listas.unizar.es</a>></div>
<div>Sent: 6/28/2020 3:46:22 PM</div>
<div>Subject: [Fis] 10 Principles</div>
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<div><font size="4">From my point of view the main choice which has to be made in the very beginning is between two opposite cases:</font></div>
<div><font size="4">1. <b>Information is a primary concept</b></font></div>
<div><font size="4"><b>2. </b><b>Information is a secondary concept</b></font></div>
<div><font size="4">This is fundamental choice which cause all further work.</font></div>
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As I already had pointed, if information is a primary concept than no theories about information can be created. One may create many other theories for EVERYTHING but not for information. Only infinite variety of examples may be created but not fruitful theory
and discussions. For instance, the religious approach belong to this class.</font></div>
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The second case gives us possibility to create theories ABOUT information starting from one or more other primary concepts.</font></div>
<div><font size="4">I prefer the second case. The primary concepts I have used are Entity and Relationship (<a title="http://www.foibg.com/ijita/vol14/ijita14-1-p01.pdf" href="https://eur06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.foibg.com%2Fijita%2Fvol14%2Fijita14-1-p01.pdf&data=02%7C01%7C%7C9ed9231ac5754f5cc60708d81bf3c63d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637290081095248062&sdata=CeXWCgoqHNTUcDRzwkcjL8Dc4KOtJ2VwnX5U4r27kOo%3D&reserved=0" originalsrc="http://www.foibg.com/ijita/vol14/ijita14-1-p01.pdf" shash="YLmT8iyFxgXtCru/DuPXOFLg0T33CvZOQBLOMGFyt1J9EKHhJNdEnzJMK3ROBrTGl6r7jEmA9CZ0oroHvs1TraSsYTA/7B0SW+CRwC9MP+gNWaL6xyAku1Ex3lfn4oPE8qZaqI0jgkUVFd5Y/Ayu0Hfnrmz3/eOGpm7YYT7jzIQ=">http://www.foibg.com/ijita/vol14/ijita14-1-p01.pdf</a>),
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To illustrate the difference between two cases, let see the first 5 principles of Pedro in the two variants:
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<div><font size="4">I am afraid that many of FIS members prefer the first case. <br />
I do not know who prefer the second one beside me. If such ones exist, please write to me and we will continue the productive common work.
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Amsterdam School of Communications Research (ASCoR)<br />
Kloveniersburgwal 48, 1012 CX Amsterdam.<br />
Tel. +31-20-525 6598; fax: +31-842239111</span></p>
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