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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 8pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans Unicode",sans-serif">Dear Colleagues,<span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 8pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans Unicode",sans-serif"><span> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 8pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans Unicode",sans-serif">We are well progressing towards achieving a shared
concept, about the framework in which we can meaningfully discuss the meaning
of the term ‘information’. Let me discuss some points in your latest
communications</span><span>.<span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 36pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><i><span><span> </span></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 36pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><i><span>Joseph wrote:<span></span></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 36pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><i><span><span> </span></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 36pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><i><span>Discommunication should convey the additional idea
of intent to mislead, etc. <span></span></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 36pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><i><span>Discommunication seems to me to refer more directly
than in the disinformation case to the consequences for the sender as well as
receiver. In popular language, one talks about people who “can’t stop lying” or
who “lie so much they no longer can discern truth from falsehood”.<span></span></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span><span> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 8pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans Unicode",sans-serif">In the <b>ideal
case</b>, the communication is devoid of any properties that would make it a <i>mis</i>- or <i>dis</i>- communication. Irrespective of the content, <b>falsifications</b>
can originate from drowning the recipient in messages, or in denying
communication, keeping a silence or avoiding the topic.<span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 8pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans Unicode",sans-serif">We have
an instinctive, inborn, <b>archetypical expectation</b> towards the proportion
of meaningful, true sentences among all communications that we receive. We act
subconsciously, as if there were <b>a range, provided by Nature</b>, by
mitigation of physiology and neurology, <b>for the truth among the falsehoods</b>.
If only we had a kaleidoscope, on which we could demonstrate logic in reality, namely
which pieces are presently visible – being on their places – according to how
many and which perspectives one looks thru. Readings of a view thru a
kaleidoscope can in many cases be subject of differing assumptions; among these
are surely enough which can be used deceitfully. I’d respectfully add to your
thoughts that the proportions of the amounts in messaging suggest that <b>there
is an inborn expectation about the proportion of true sentences among all
sentences that become received by the brain</b>, translated by the sensory
organs and neurology. A model like a kaleidoscope or the ultimate Rubik cube
would offer a general proportion of true sentences among all sentences that can
be said about the kaleidoscope/cube.<span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 36pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><i><span>Gordana wrote:<span></span></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 36pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><i><span>analysis by leading UK statistician of
miscommunications we are massively exposed to in the form of “Number theatre”?<span></span></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 8pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans Unicode",sans-serif">Please allow
me to expand the brilliant idea of seeing the numbers as actors in a theatre.
We observe an ancient Greek, Inca, Agyptian, Kabuki, etc. ritual performed by
the numbers. There are antagonists, choirs and great drama. Let us get a
trailer of the Number Theatre:<span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 8pt 36pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><b><span style="font-size:11pt">The Chief (unifying principle) of Both Realms of
Odd and Even Numbers:<span></span></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 8pt 36pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span style="font-size:11pt">I declare unto you: The overwhelming majority of
numbers do their duty with courage, dedicated and professionally. That there are
some bad apples among them, cannot be denied. These individuals allow
themselves to be used by mischievous persons who spread lies. We of the
traditional denomination of numbers, reject the insinuation cast upon the whole
class of us. We serve dutifully, wherever Nature or our inventors have put us
to, in any amounts wished. It is not our fault, if we are used up like
hypothesis-fodder during investigations which make in hindsight no reason at
all. <span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 8pt 36pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span style="font-size:11pt">We do, however, show a resilience against being
mistreated. We do have and cherish our independence. Any deceitful use of
members of our numberhood will meet our resistance. Our resources being somewhat
limited at first glance, we express our displeasure of being treated wrongfully
and in a false, incorrect, sinister scheme, by disobedience to the principle of
everlasting harmony. <span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 8pt 36pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span style="font-size:11pt">We will not keep peace with each other in such
cases. Ending the peace means that there are and keep remaining such parts of
us that are not equal to other parts of us: the ‘=’ sign is not valid. No
comparison can be made which results in three parts: those two that are
compared and are found to be = or not, and the third which is needed for the
negation-background of the statement: <i>“There
are Two that are alike” <span> </span>(“There is One
which is different to Two”). </i>Beware of our ability to unmask the
treacherous!<span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 8pt 36pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><b><span style="font-size:11pt">Voice of the Nonsettled:<span></span></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 8pt 36pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span style="font-size:11pt">This is a timeless drama between us: the have-nots
and you, the Establishment. Those who have secured for themselves a stable
place will not have any interest in accommodating the needs and aspirations of
their less fortunate ancestors and descendants. Your whole edifice of truth is
only a momentary affair. You yourself brag that <i>a=a </i>is an everlasting truth, because it exists in the moment, and
specifically in each of the moments, therefore always. How can you then create phantasies
about predecessors and successors? If, as you say, <i>a=a </i>is always true, in what respects can a successor or a
predecessor be any different? You avoid seeing the obvious: that we are a
multitude just like you, but somewhat different. Your red meat, earth and clay
existence we do not share with you: we are less corporeal, but none the less natural.
<span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 8pt 36pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><b><span style="font-size:11pt">Choir:<span></span></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 8pt 36pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span style="font-size:11pt">Many are the wonders of time. The ghosts of past
are among us again. They have never left us. A pitiful wrack is among the
humans who hast lost the inner ancestry of his now. Who knows no memory is like
a small child and must be cared for. The ghosts of things past guide us today.<span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 8pt 36pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span style="font-size:11pt">Forebodings befall the infant as she hears the
voice of her mother. The dog of an old Russian salivates as the bell tolls. Anticipation
is intelligence.<span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 8pt 36pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span style="font-size:11pt">Memory of the past, perception of the present and anticipation
of the future interact.<span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 8pt 36pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><b><span style="font-size:11pt">Master of Bondage: <span></span></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 8pt 36pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span style="font-size:11pt">We have kept hidden the tragedies and blessings,
which our unceasing labour creates, from your eyes, but now we have been
brought back to the singing world by Swedish incantations, now we open our heart
to you about or some of our deepest secrets. <span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 8pt 36pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span style="font-size:11pt">The secrets will not be understood by those
unfortunate, who live in the moment. It is necessary in order to understand
bondage and predestination, and within that, small islands of freedom and
choices, to think oneself in a changing world. <span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 8pt 36pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><b><span style="font-size:11pt">Choir:<span></span></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 8pt 36pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span style="font-size:11pt">Day follows night, spring follows winter. The
changes are eternal. <i>a=a </i>is a strong
rule, but the rule <i>a<sub>1</sub> → a<sub>2</sub>
→ … → a<sub>1</sub> </i>is even mightier. A period is a well-ordered sequence
of states. <span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 8pt 36pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><b><span style="font-size:11pt">Master of Didactics:<span></span></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 8pt 36pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span style="font-size:11pt">There is a revolution in the air. The oppressive
tyranny of the seated elite will come to an end. The dawn of a new era reddens
the sky. This we all agree on.<span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 8pt 36pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span style="font-size:11pt">The task is however, to tell the unfortunate users
that it is their own limitations that hinder them to use us according to our
full capacities. Now that they have discovered our well-kept secret, that our
society is divided into the assigned and the less assigned, according to the
simple arithmetic translation rules depicted in <a href="http://oeis.org/A242615">oeis.org/A242615</a>, they can
build up tools that enlighten them about periodic changes and the rules thereof.
They will discover how a number in a traditional sense translates into an
expectation or a realisation of a bondage. The dead and the yet-to-be-born are
related to us living, but they are no less numbers. They just have a slightly
different aggregational form. Those among the numbers, which the unfortunate
have been accustomed to, are just agglomerations. Like a traffic map, where
only the pileups appear as static, existing, visible entities, the circulating
cars which are too small to be resolved, are the bondage.<span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 8pt 36pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><b><span style="font-size:11pt">Choir:<span></span></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 8pt 36pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span style="font-size:11pt">The stones were always there. It was human effort
which made pyramids out of them. Common sense and academia are sometimes not
the best friends. We live in a world of periodic changes. Will academia base
its system of axioms on principles of periodic changes? The ghosts of past say
no, the divinations of the future say yes.</span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans Unicode",sans-serif"><span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 8pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans Unicode",sans-serif">The
Number Theatre can entertain her aficionados, there is much to lament and to
boast about. <span> </span><span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 36pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><i><span>Jose Javier wrote:<span></span></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 36pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><i><span>I believe that thinking theoretically consists, in
some Wittgensteinian vain, in designing language games and that scientific
communication consist in convincing others to speak our language (or being
convinced by others to speak their language) and phrase problems our way. <span></span></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 8pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans Unicode",sans-serif">The more public the words we use, the better we can
expect to be understood. In the extreme, we only use words that have a defined
meaning and have relations to other words of the vocabulary that are well
defined. This leaves us in practice with the natural numbers as symbols to
employ if we want to be sure that every reader of the sentence understands the
same meaning. <span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 8pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans Unicode",sans-serif">The concept was a dead end as long as the
proceedings and machinations with natural numbers had to be done by the human
brain, using paper and pencil. In Wittgenstein’s time it was unthinkable to
imagine the finite set of possible logically consistent sentences, as they
lived in the era of limitless progress and infinite number lines, while lacking
mechanical and electrical tools to manipulate large numbers of numbers. To
industrially generate logical sentences and hunt for patterns, discovering
generative grammar, was not in their reach. <span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 8pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans Unicode",sans-serif">Generations have since passed. Now we can, and
indeed have, analysed logical sentences in their natural habitat, among other
logical sentences. You need computers and a lot of time to continue what
Wittgenstein did, solving some of the problems he had pointed out. He never
addressed the numeric part of having told everything about an assembly that can
be told, without repeating oneself. That would have brought him into a
conflict, as he outlined correctly that the logical sentences are subject to
laws of combinatorics, but he was, alas, living in the age of the limitless,
therefore infinite society. Lacking computers, he could not point out the basic
duality of sequenced and contemporary descriptions of one and the same assembly
(state of the world). <span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 8pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans Unicode",sans-serif">We axiomatize that about a finite assembly only a
finite number of different sentences can be said. <span> </span>This allows for lots of tralala. Among the
different sentences, some are consistent with each other. These we use for communication
with each other. Their being consistent refers to their property of being
concurrently referred to by means of a sequenced order among the words, as well
as a categorically structured order among the words. The conjurer’s trick unifies
sequenced and commutative attributes of words by using the words as parts of bondages
that bind the words in the course of periodic changes. The periodic changes
create a web of expectations, where something would be when. The thing-ness and
the where-when-ness of the something are connected by their common attribute of
how-many-ness. The spectacle unfolds if the multitude consists of a few dozen bondable
elements. The main interplay (for us: reality) takes place in assemblies of
round 66 elements. Less than 32 or more than 97 elements, and the match between
the sequential and the structural descriptions gets inexact. Above 135, counting
the occurrences that the assembly can be described both by sequentially and
structurally ordered sentences, becomes void. <span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 8pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans Unicode",sans-serif">Yes, playing with words of an ideal language is an
entertaining business. Ultimately, it is also an explanative, applicable, useful,
practical, rational and profitable business. The only question is: how far is “ultimately”?</span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans Unicode",sans-serif"><span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span><span> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 36pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><i><span>Loet wrote:<span></span></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 36pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><i><span>… The codification takes place at the
supra-individual level as a development of the medium.<span></span></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 36pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><i><span><span> </span>The
construction only succeeds where it resonates into a kind of eigenvector. The
dynamics is one of the communication matrix and not of an individual
vector. <span></span></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 36pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><i><span><span> </span></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 8pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans Unicode",sans-serif">This reinforces the archetype theory raised by Jung.
There is an instinctive pattern perception with children and animals. Some
principles of optical (auditive, etc.) perception are parts of the genetic
package. Nature has no problems transferring over generations some keys on how
to read a Great Table of Principles. The matrix you refer to surely exists. Being
subject to periodic changes since thousands of millions of years has surely
taught organisms to organise along the principles prevailing in a world being based
on periodic changes. Principles prevailing in assemblies undergoing periodic
changes can be observed by conducting suitable experiments. It turns out there
are indeed matrix-like <i>a priori </i>relations among elements that together
undergo periodic changes.<span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 8pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans Unicode",sans-serif"><span> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 8pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans Unicode",sans-serif">Taken all communications together, let me restate
the hope that we shall come to a common understanding after so many years of
collaborative efforts.<span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 8pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans Unicode",sans-serif">Thank you for the interesting contributions.<span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 8pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans Unicode",sans-serif">Karl<span></span></span></p>
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</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Am Di., 12. Mai 2020 um 05:54 Uhr schrieb Francesco Rizzo <<a href="mailto:13francesco.rizzo@gmail.com">13francesco.rizzo@gmail.com</a>>:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Cari colleghi,<div>a parte la distinzione tra dis-comunicazione e mis-comunicazione, che dovrebbe tenere in maggiore conto la significazione e</div><div>l'informazione, non bisogna dimenticare la triade o terna che caratterizza la scienza semiotica che accomuna le differenti lingue, </div><div>facendole diventare una uguaglianza dis-uguale o una dis-uguaglianza uguale. In questa prospettiva epistemo-onto-logica, per </div><div>non cadere nella fallacia referenziale, bisogna teorizzare e praticare la conoscenza della conoscenza dell'ARBITRARIETA'</div><div> DEI SEGNI, la cui significazione è CONVENZIONALE, CULTURALE E SOCIALE. Tante volte a me pare che si consideri</div><div> la semiotica o la semiologia qualcosa di cui non si possa parlare e si debba o possa tacere, mentre io ritengo che sia qualcosa</div><div> di cui non si debba o possa tacere, per cui si debba parlare. Altrimenti, gridano le pietre, dice il Vangelo della Bibbia o la Bibbia </div><div>del Vangelo: Il libro dei libri.</div><div>Un abbraccio affettuoso, più di sempre, a tutti a partire da Pedro. Grazie.</div><div>Francesco</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Il giorno lun 11 mag 2020 alle ore 20:02 Loet Leydesdorff <<a href="mailto:loet@leydesdorff.net" target="_blank">loet@leydesdorff.net</a>> ha scritto:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div>Dear Jose Javier and colleagues, </div><div><br></div><div>I don't think that one can arbitrarily construct one's own language game and still have the intended effect. The codification takes place at the supra-individual level as a development of the medium. This "self-organization" is thus beyond individual control.</div><div><br></div><div>Attempts to construct purposefully will lead overwhelmingly to unintended consequences; this is not input-> output. The construction only succeeds where it resonates into a kind of eigenvector. The dynamics is one of the communication matrix and not of an individual vector. </div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div>Loet</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Loet
Leydesdorff <u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Professor emeritus,
University of Amsterdam<br>
Amsterdam School of Communication Research (ASCoR)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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</span><span style="font-size:9pt">Associate Faculty, </span><span style="color:rgb(68,84,106)"><a href="http://www.sussex.ac.uk/spru/" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:9pt">SPRU, </span></a></span><span style="font-size:9pt">University of Sussex; <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<div>From: "Jose Javier Blanco Rivero" <<a href="mailto:javierweiss@gmail.com" target="_blank">javierweiss@gmail.com</a>></div>
<div>To: "Gordana Dodig-Crnkovic" <<a href="mailto:gordana.dodig-crnkovic@mdh.se" target="_blank">gordana.dodig-crnkovic@mdh.se</a>></div>
<div>Cc: "<a href="mailto:fis@listas.unizar.es" target="_blank">fis@listas.unizar.es</a>" <<a href="mailto:fis@listas.unizar.es" target="_blank">fis@listas.unizar.es</a>>; "Joseph Brenner" <<a href="mailto:joe.brenner@bluewin.ch" target="_blank">joe.brenner@bluewin.ch</a>></div>
<div>Sent: 5/11/2020 4:53:27 PM</div>
<div>Subject: Re: [Fis] Discommunication</div><div><br></div>
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<div dir="ltr"><div>Dear Joseph & Gordana,</div><div><br></div><div> When looking for scientific soundness it seems often obvious to focus on the precision and elaboration of singular concepts. However, concepts rarely work alone; they are entangled in semantic fields, types of discourse, common places (<i>tópos koinós</i>) and so on. Therefore, I would suggest, why don't we focus on the vocabulary we would need in order to clearly set the problems we are interested in and the reach our conceptual abstractions should have? <br></div><div> I believe that thinking theoretically consists, in some Wittgensteinian vain, in designing language games and that scientific communication consist in convincing others to speak our language (or being convinced by others to speak their language) and phrase problems our way. <br></div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div><br></div><div>JJ <br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">El lun., 11 may. 2020 a las 6:06, Gordana Dodig-Crnkovic (<<a href="mailto:gordana.dodig-crnkovic@mdh.se" target="_blank">gordana.dodig-crnkovic@mdh.se</a>>) escribió:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Avenir Book"" lang="EN-US">Thanks, Joseph for your interesting reflection.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Avenir Book"" lang="EN-US">What would you say of this example of an analysis
</span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Avenir Book";color:black" lang="EN-US">by leading UK statistician
</span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Avenir Book"" lang="EN-US">of miscommunications we are massively exposed to in the form of “Number
</span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Avenir Book";color:black" lang="EN-US">theatre</span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Avenir Book"" lang="EN-US">”?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Avenir Book";color:black" lang="EN">BBC One - The Andrew Marr Show, 10/05/2020, Professor Sir David Spiegelhalter: Here is the whole ten minutes of</span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Avenir Book";color:black" lang="EN">
</span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Avenir Book";color:black" lang="EN"><a href="https://twitter.com/d_spiegel" target="_blank">@d_spiegel</a> talking such refreshing sense about COVID19, numbers and risk:</span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Avenir Book";color:black" lang="EN">
</span><u><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Avenir Book";color:blue"><a href="https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p08csg28" target="_blank">https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p08csg28</a></span></u><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Avenir Book""><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Avenir Book"" lang="EN-US">All the best,
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Avenir Book"" lang="EN-US">Gordana<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From: </b>Fis <<a href="mailto:fis-bounces@listas.unizar.es" target="_blank">fis-bounces@listas.unizar.es</a>> on behalf of Joseph Brenner <<a href="mailto:joe.brenner@bluewin.ch" target="_blank">joe.brenner@bluewin.ch</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Monday, 11 May 2020 at 10:36<br>
<b>To: </b>"<a href="mailto:fis@listas.unizar.es" target="_blank">fis@listas.unizar.es</a>" <<a href="mailto:fis@listas.unizar.es" target="_blank">fis@listas.unizar.es</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[Fis] Discommunication<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans Unicode",sans-serif" lang="EN-GB">The subject of discommunication, defined as an attempt to pervert the process of communication of information itself, was implicit in our previous
discussion. The term is not used rigorously. Miscommunication conveys the same idea as misinformation, failure in communication, for any reason. Discommunication should convey the additional idea of intent to mislead,
<i>etc. </i></span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans Unicode",sans-serif" lang="EN-GB">Discommunication seems to me to refer more directly than in the disinformation case to the consequences for the sender as well as receiver. In popular
language, one talks about people who “can’t stop lying” or who “lie so much they no longer can discern truth from falsehood”. One, of many, current examples of discommunication,
<i>grandeur nature</i>, supports this interpretation.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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