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<DIV><FONT size=4>Dear Christophe and FIS Colleagues,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>I wish you strong health and patience to avoid this very
dangerous virus!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>About meaning:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>“</DIV>
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<P><B><I><FONT size=4><FONT color=#ff0000>A meaning </FONT></B></FONT><FONT
size=4 face="Times New Roman,Times New Roman PS"><FONT size=4
face="Times New Roman,Times New Roman PS"><FONT color=#ff0000>is meaningful
information</FONT> that is generated by a system submitted to a constraint when
it receives <FONT color=#ff0000>an external information</FONT> that has a
connection with the constraint. </FONT></FONT></I></P>
<P><B><FONT size=4><EM><FONT color=#ff0000>The meaning is formed</FONT> of the
connection existing between the <FONT color=#ff0000>received information</FONT>
and the constraint of the system</EM></B></FONT><FONT size=4
face="Times New Roman,Times New Roman PS"><FONT size=4
face="Times New Roman,Times New Roman PS"><EM>. The function of the meaning is
to participate to the determination of an action that will be implemented in
order to satisfy the constraint of the system. </EM></P>
<DIV><FONT face=Calibri></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>“</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>We still do not know what is information, so it is difficult
to define meaning.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>I think your idea is very near to what we need but I prefer
another way to say the same.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>INFOS reflects the surrounding environment via his/her
sensors(receptors). Signals from sensors(receptors) via some transfer mechanism
like neurons come to the brain or to the central memory of INFOS. Interconnected
signals form interconnected active points in the memory. Such formation is
called “mental model” of the reflected reality. The same is happen when one or
more active memory formation(s) is(are) reflected in another such one. This is
again “mental model” but of the subjective internal reality. So we have two
types of mental models – “objective”and “subjective”, taking in account that the
“objective” means the end of subjective reflection chain which starts from
sensors and ends in the brain, i.e. it is subjective reflection of the objective
reality, the second is subjective reflection of subjective reality.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>Now, if INFOS can interconnect one mental model with another
one(s) the first model receive meaning. If another interconnection is done,
another meaning of the same model will exist.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>The interconnections are mental models, too.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>So, mental model with meaning is information.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>Mental model without meaning is data.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>Maybe in the next letter I shall explain this on the base of
the test bed.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>Many thanks to all who read my post (more than 180
reads).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>Be healthy and happy!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>Friendly greetings</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>Krassimir</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A
title=christophe.menant@hotmail.fr
href="mailto:christophe.menant@hotmail.fr">Christophe Menant</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, March 26, 2020 9:29 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=fis@listas.unizar.es
href="mailto:fis@listas.unizar.es">fis@listas.unizar.es</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Fis] defining information</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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style='FONT-SIZE: 12pt; BORDER-TOP: windowtext 1pt; FONT-FAMILY: "inherit",serif; BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 1pt; COLOR: #201f1e; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; PADDING-LEFT: 0cm; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 1pt; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-font-family: tahoma; mso-border-alt: none windowtext 0cm; mso-ansi-language: en-us; mso-fareast-language: fr; mso-bidi-language: ar-sa'>Dear
FISers,<BR>Going through hard times should not stop us from exchanging
ideas.<BR>My two cents: <BR>When trying to define information we should keep in
mind that information exists to carry meanings and is used for meaning
management. If there is no need for meanings, information does not have to
exist.<BR>Assuming that we accept meaning as the core of information, we can
reach some simple definitions like:<I> information is any energy variation that
conveys meaning or participates to meaning generation.</I> (The former is about
meaningful information, the latter includes meaningless Information). This
definition can be used for humans, animals and artificial agents. But it needs
to explicit what is a meaning and what is meaning generation. <BR>As we have
already talked about, this has been done by proposing a model for meaning
generation (the MGS) which allows to:<BR>- Define a meaning, a meaningful
information, and tell what a meaning is for.<BR>- Relate meaning to agency and
to constraint satisfaction.<BR>- Differentiate artificial agents from organic
ones.<BR>- Define agency and autonomy.<BR>- Identify some limits of today AI
.<BR>- Introduce evolutionary scenarios for cognition, intentionality and
self-consciousness.<BR>- Highlight some possible sources of human mental health
problems.<BR>This is more than we need to consider that defining information as
a meaning carrier (with a definition of meaning) can be a valid option. <BR>(a
short paper at </SPAN><SPAN
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href="https://philpapers.org/rec/MENITA-7"><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="COLOR: blue; mso-ansi-language: en-us">https://philpapers.org/rec/MENITA-7</SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN
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<SPAN lang=EN-US>gives access to the above subjects). <BR>Let’s again recall
that the proposed approach is an evolutionary one. It does not take information
as managed by humans as a starting point. This is deliberate, in order to avoid
having to consider human consciousness and free will in our starting point.
These human performances are complex and not clearly understood by science and
philosophy. Taking them into account, even implicitly, would make our starting
point unnecessarily complex. The choice made here is to start with a case as
simple as possible (meaning generation in animals) and look at human
performances as the result of an evolutionary approach. <BR><BR>Hoping that you
and your families are all well in the difficult times we are going through, I
wish you the best.<BR>Christophe</SPAN></SPAN><BR></DIV>
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<DIV id=divRplyFwdMsg dir=ltr><FONT style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" color=#000000
face="Calibri, sans-serif"><B>De :</B> Fis <fis-bounces@listas.unizar.es>
de la part de Francesco Rizzo <13francesco.rizzo@gmail.com><BR><B>Envoyé
:</B> lundi 23 mars 2020 07:49<BR><B>À :</B> Joseph Brenner
<joe.brenner@bluewin.ch><BR><B>Cc :</B> fis@listas.unizar.es >>
fis@listas.unizar.es <fis@listas.unizar.es>; Pedro C. Marijuan
<pcmarijuan.iacs@aragon.es>; Emanuel Diamant
<emanl.245@gmail.com><BR><B>Objet :</B> Re: [Fis] defining
information</FONT>
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<DIV dir=ltr>Carissimo Joseph,
<DIV>Ti ringrazio di cuore per il Tuo affettuoso augurio di buona salute alla
mia famiglia. Grazie a Dio e anche agli uomini di buona </DIV>
<DIV>capacita e volontà stiamo bene.</DIV>
<DIV>Mi permetto di scriverTi che, non solo secondo me, ma anche per il
giudizio-pensiero di altri studiosi, molto più autorevoli del</DIV>
<DIV>sottoscritto:</DIV>
<DIV>* l'equilibrio (che sarebbe bene o meglio cambiare con armonia, anche del
dis-accordo) può paragonarsi ad una tautologia</DIV>
<DIV>che al pari dell'ideologia è una falsa co-scienza; difatti
l'equilibrio entropico è mortale, il dis-equilibrio neg-enropico è vitale;</DIV>
<DIV>* per quanto riguarda il rapporto tra energia e informazione, bisogna dire
che l'energia libera non è altro che una forma di in-</DIV>
<DIV>formazione (neg-entropica), mentre l'energia degradata (non più
trasformabile in lavoro utile o meccanico) non è altro che</DIV>
<DIV>una forma di dis-in-formazione (entropica);</DIV>
<DIV>* è necessario ricordare che v'ha un tempo per essere generalisti e
un tempo per essere specialisti: quando si dà luogo ad </DIV>
<DIV>un'iniziativa pregevole, preziosa e profetica come la FIS, nata per merito
di Pedro, prima bisogna. essere generalisti e poi </DIV>
<DIV>specialisti, sapendo che il prima serve il poi.</DIV>
<DIV>Carissimo Joseph, leggo sempre con molta attenzione i Tuoi autorevoli
interventi-messaggi e sono sempre più convinto che solo</DIV>
<DIV>il rilancio della filosofia possa costituire la base onto-metodo-logica
della definizione e della narrazione-processo della LEGGE </DIV>
<DIV>DELL'INFORMAZIONE, senza trascurare la scienza mediatrice
dell'economia.</DIV>
<DIV>DateVi e diamoci da fare, perché molta strada ancora bisogna percorrere e
sperimentare.</DIV>
<DIV>Un abbraccio affettuoso a Te ed ai Tuoi cari, estensibile a Tutti, con
l'amore della fede, della perseveranza e del coraggio.</DIV>
<DIV>Grazie, grazie, grazie.</DIV>
<DIV>Francesco.</DIV>
<DIV>.</DIV></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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<DIV class=x_gmail_attr dir=ltr>Il giorno ven 20 mar 2020 alle ore 11:21 Joseph
Brenner <<A
href="mailto:joe.brenner@bluewin.ch">joe.brenner@bluewin.ch</A>> ha
scritto:<BR></DIV>
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<P class=x_MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face="Lucida Sans Unicode"><SPAN
lang=EN-GB
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Lucida Sans Unicode"; COLOR: navy'>Dear
Francesco,<U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=x_MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face="Lucida Sans Unicode"><SPAN
lang=EN-GB
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Lucida Sans Unicode"; COLOR: navy'><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=x_MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face="Lucida Sans Unicode"><SPAN
lang=EN-GB
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Lucida Sans Unicode"; COLOR: navy'>Please
let me first express the hope that you and your family are in good health and
in a safe configuration.<I><SPAN style="FONT-STYLE: italic">
<U></U><U></U></SPAN></I></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=x_MsoNormal><I><FONT color=navy size=2
face="Lucida Sans Unicode"><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Lucida Sans Unicode"; COLOR: navy; FONT-STYLE: italic'><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></I> </P>
<P class=x_MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face="Lucida Sans Unicode"><SPAN
lang=EN-GB
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Lucida Sans Unicode"; COLOR: navy'>As to
the content of your note, however, there are a couple of things that I think
need more discussion. I would not make the absolute cut made by Wheeler
between energy and information, and I think that Prigogine did not pay enough
attention to the complexity of processes <I><SPAN
style="FONT-STYLE: italic">close </SPAN></I>to
equilibrium.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=x_MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face="Lucida Sans Unicode"><SPAN
lang=EN-GB
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Lucida Sans Unicode"; COLOR: navy'><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=x_MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face="Lucida Sans Unicode"><SPAN
lang=EN-GB
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Lucida Sans Unicode"; COLOR: navy'>On
the other hand, I think that your formulation of measure as a qualitative
quantity or a quantitative quality implies exactly the kind of dialectical
approach one should take to understanding information in <I><SPAN
style="FONT-STYLE: italic">its </SPAN></I>complexity.
<U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=x_MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face="Lucida Sans Unicode"><SPAN
lang=EN-GB
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Lucida Sans Unicode"; COLOR: navy'><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=x_MsoNormal><I><FONT color=navy size=2
face="Lucida Sans Unicode"><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Lucida Sans Unicode"; COLOR: navy; FONT-STYLE: italic'>Sta
bene</SPAN></FONT></I><FONT color=navy size=2 face="Lucida Sans Unicode"><SPAN
lang=EN-GB
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Lucida Sans Unicode"; COLOR: navy'>,<U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=x_MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face="Lucida Sans Unicode"><SPAN
lang=EN-GB
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Lucida Sans Unicode"; COLOR: navy'><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=x_MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face="Lucida Sans Unicode"><SPAN
lang=EN-GB
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Lucida Sans Unicode"; COLOR: navy'>Joseph<U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial; COLOR: navy"><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT> </P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial; COLOR: navy"><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT> </P>
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<P class=x_MsoNormal><B><FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
size=2 face=Tahoma><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma"> Fis [mailto:<A
href="mailto:fis-bounces@listas.unizar.es"
target=_blank>fis-bounces@listas.unizar.es</A>] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Francesco Rizzo<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> vendredi, 20 mars 2020
10:48<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Krassimir
Markov<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B> <A
href="mailto:fis@listas.unizar.es" target=_blank>fis@listas.unizar.es</A>
>> <A href="mailto:fis@listas.unizar.es"
target=_blank>fis@listas.unizar.es</A>; Pedro C. Marijuan; Emanuel
Diamant<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [Fis]
defining information</SPAN></FONT><SPAN
lang=EN-US><U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV>
<P class=x_MsoNormal><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT> </P>
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<P class=x_MsoNormal><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Cari Pedro, Joseph, Krassimir, Terry e Tutti gli
altri,<U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P>
<DIV>
<P class=x_MsoNormal><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">tenendo presente quel che avete scritto in questi
ultimi tempi, desidero dirVi alcune cose che potrebbero essere utili
<U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=x_MsoNormal><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">per stabilire il quadro o scenario della discussione
FIS, senza alcuna presunzione o pretesa.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=x_MsoNormal><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">*Ciò che mi spinge a partecipare al
confronto-dibattito è la mia teoria del valore (economico) basata sulla
combinazione<U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=x_MsoNormal><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">creativa di energia, informazione e materia, sapendo
che sia l'energia sia la materia sono forme di informazione;
quindi<U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=x_MsoNormal><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">posso in sintesi affermare che la mia teoria sia
basata sul valore dell'informazione o della tras-informazione (di cui la FIS
<U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=x_MsoNormal><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">nel passato s'è occupata): da quì il valore della
forma o la forma del valore. <U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=x_MsoNormal><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">* Il grande fisico J. A. Wheeler, il guru della
scienza dell'informazione che portò i buchi neri all'interno dell'analisi
fisico-astronomica, <U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=x_MsoNormal><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">sostiene che l'unica legge fondamentale della scienza
naturale sia quella dell'informazione, non dell'energia o della
materia.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=x_MsoNormal><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">* Questo vale ancora di più per le scienze umane e
sociali (di cui l'economia dovrebbe essere la
regina).<U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=x_MsoNormal><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">* Allora bisogna concentrare l'attenzione sull'unità
di ogni forma di sapere, rifacendoci alla Nuova Alleanza di Ilya
Prigogine<U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=x_MsoNormal><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">che ha inventato-scoperto le "strutture dissipative
che creano ordine dal disordine mediante fluttuazioni o instabilità"; questa è
la fonte<U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=x_MsoNormal><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">di ogni informazione, sia delle scienze naturali che
umane: il concetto di neg-entropia o informazione vitale di E. Schrodinger
<U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=x_MsoNormal><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">la dice lunga in
proposito.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=x_MsoNormal><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">* Esistono tante categorie o forme di informazione:
naturale o termodinamica, genetica o genomica, matematica o cibernetica,
<U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=x_MsoNormal><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">semiotico-semantica. Esse possono rifarsi tutte allo
stesso quadro definitorio: l'informazione è un processo che tende a dare
forma<U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=x_MsoNormal><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">a tutti e a tutto, dis-informazione è il contrario
(cfr. Rizzo F., "Scienza dell'amore o amore della scienza", Aracne editrice,
Roma 2019,<U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=x_MsoNormal><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">soprattutto i capitoli 2 e 3 dedicati a Socrate,
Platone e Aristotele).<U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=x_MsoNormal><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">*Invece sono diverse le misure di queste tipologie di
informazione che, tuttavia, possono supportare, grossomodo, la stessa
definizione.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=x_MsoNormal><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">*Infine, ma potrei dire all'inizio, quel che non
bisogna dimenticare è la lezione di scienza della logica che ci ha dato G:W.
Hegel: <U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=x_MsoNormal><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">fra i tanti suoi triangoli, consiglio quello che
ai tre vertici porta qualità, quantità e misura: la misura è una quantità
qualitativa o una <U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=x_MsoNormal><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">qualità quantitativa. Questo consente di dosare
(dialetticamente, direbbe il nostro filosofo) il dosaggio delle misurazioni
delle <U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=x_MsoNormal><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">diverse forme di
informazione.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=x_MsoNormal><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Sono stato più lungo di quanto prevedevo e Vi chiedo
scusa anche per l'uso della mia lingua.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=x_MsoNormal><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Un saluto affettuoso ed un augurio molto forte --
richiesto dai tempi in cui (la) corona (di un).virus ha un potere .demoniaco
-- al fine di<U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=x_MsoNormal><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">non abbassare la
guardia.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=x_MsoNormal><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Francesco<U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=x_MsoNormal><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Il giorno mar 17 mar 2020 alle ore 20:56 Krassimir
Markov <<A href="mailto:markov@foibg.com"
target=_blank>markov@foibg.com</A>> ha
scritto:<U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=x_MsoNormal><FONT color=black size=4 face=Calibri><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black">Dear Pedro,
Emanuel and FIS Colleagues,</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black size=4
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<P class=x_MsoNormal><FONT color=black size=4 face=Calibri><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black">1.Thank you
for your remarks and interesting ideas.</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black
size=4 face=Calibri><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black"><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=x_MsoNormal><FONT color=black size=4 face=Calibri><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black">Especially
those which are aimed to make our communication possible in such situation
like this in the world now.</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black size=4
face=Calibri><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black"><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=x_MsoNormal><FONT color=black size=4 face=Calibri><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black">I have no
information about plans and possibilities of our Brazilian
colleagues.</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black size=4 face=Calibri><SPAN
lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black"> </SPAN></FONT><FONT
color=black size=4 face=Calibri><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black">So, please
write more details.</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black size=4 face=Calibri><SPAN
lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black"><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=x_MsoNormal><FONT color=black size=4 face=Calibri><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black"><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV>
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<P class=x_MsoNormal><FONT color=black size=4 face=Calibri><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black">2. I agree
with Emanuel that: </SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black size=4 face=Calibri><SPAN
lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black"><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=x_MsoNormal><FONT color=black size=4 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 13pt; COLOR: black">The proposed definition of
information must be followed by a suggestion of assets that make it (the
information) visible, tangible, palpable. </SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black
size=4 face=Calibri><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black"><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=x_MsoNormal><FONT color=black size=4 face=Calibri><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black">It was my goal
when I had proposed to prepare one or more test beds.</SPAN></FONT><FONT
color=black size=4 face=Calibri><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black"><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=x_MsoNormal><FONT color=black size=4 face=Calibri><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black"><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV>
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<P class=x_MsoNormal><FONT color=black size=4 face=Calibri><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black">3. According
to this, now I want to invite you to see my preliminary proposal of a sample
test bed and evaluation tips for testing information definitions and
theories.</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black size=4 face=Calibri><SPAN
lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black"><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=x_MsoNormal><FONT color=black size=4 face=Calibri><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black">It is simple
but, I hope, contains the main objects and their interactions, which
participate in the (humans’!) information processes.</SPAN></FONT><FONT
color=black size=4 face=Calibri><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black"><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=x_MsoNormal><FONT color=black size=4 face=Calibri><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black">Of course, it
is only one from many possible.</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black size=4
face=Calibri><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black"><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=x_MsoNormal><FONT color=black size=4 face=Calibri><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black">If given
definition or theory is not applicable to this test bed, maybe it is
possible another one to be proposed.</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black size=4
face=Calibri><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black"><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black"><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black">Please see
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style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black"><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=x_MsoNormal><FONT color=black size=4 face=Calibri><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black">I whish you to
be HEALTHY, HEALTHY, HEALTHY, .... !!!</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black size=2
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style="FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black">Friendly
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma; COLOR: black"><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=x_MsoNormal><FONT color=black size=4 face=Calibri><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black">Krassimir</SPAN></FONT><FONT
color=black size=2 face=Tahoma><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma; COLOR: black"><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma; COLOR: black"><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV>
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<P class=x_MsoNormal><FONT color=black size=2 face=Tahoma><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma; COLOR: black"><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV>
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<P class=x_MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke"><B><FONT color=black
size=2 face=Tahoma><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma; FONT-WEIGHT: bold; COLOR: black">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
color=black size=2 face=Tahoma><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma; COLOR: black"> <A
title=emanl.245@gmail.com href="mailto:emanl.245@gmail.com"
target=_blank>Emanuel Diamant</A> <U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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size=2 face=Tahoma><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma; FONT-WEIGHT: bold; COLOR: black">Sent:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
color=black size=2 face=Tahoma><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma; COLOR: black"> Tuesday, March
10, 2020 5:16 PM<U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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size=2 face=Tahoma><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma; FONT-WEIGHT: bold; COLOR: black">To:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
color=black size=2 face=Tahoma><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma; COLOR: black"> <A
title=pcmarijuan.iacs@aragon.es href="mailto:pcmarijuan.iacs@aragon.es"
target=_blank>'Pedro C. Marijuan'</A> <U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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size=2 face=Tahoma><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma; FONT-WEIGHT: bold; COLOR: black">Cc:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma; COLOR: black"> <A
title=fis@listas.unizar.es href="mailto:fis@listas.unizar.es"
target=_blank>fis@listas.unizar.es</A>
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size=2 face=Tahoma><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma; FONT-WEIGHT: bold; COLOR: black">Subject:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
color=black size=2 face=Tahoma><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma; COLOR: black"> [Fis] defining
information<U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black"><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=x_MsoNormal><FONT color=black size=4 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 13pt; COLOR: black">Dear Pedro, Dear FIS
colleagues, </SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="COLOR: black"><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=x_MsoNormal><FONT color=black size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black"><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=x_MsoNormal><FONT color=black size=4 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 13pt; COLOR: black">I do not share the general
excitement about the revitalization of the FIS discussion on information
definition. </SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="COLOR: black"><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=x_MsoNormal><FONT color=black size=4 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 13pt; COLOR: black">I am not sure that the
principle of “three messages per week” or the ITHEA Cloud Forum, with
an </SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="COLOR: black"><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=x_MsoNormal><FONT color=black size=4 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 13pt; COLOR: black">unlimited number of posts
and 1M-large attachments, is our main problem. I think that our discussion
(again and again) violates the basic principle of any scientific discourse -
the IF-THEN principle - according to which each hypothetical assumption is
followed by a suggestion what stems from it, where, and how these
expectations could be discerned and observed. If I remember right, Terence
and Gordana on several previous occasions have addressed this issue, but
their call has remained unanswered.</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN
lang=EN-US style="COLOR: black"><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=x_MsoNormal><FONT color=black size=4 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 13pt; COLOR: black">However, refreshing the
definitions of information we cannot continue to ignore the IF-THEN rule
requirement - How does the defined information look like, how it is
represented, what is its real form? The proposed definition of information
must be followed by a suggestion of assets that make it (the information)
visible, tangible, palpable. </SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN
lang=EN-US style="COLOR: black"><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=x_MsoNormal><FONT color=black size=4 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 13pt; COLOR: black">Only this kind of
information definitions is being urgently needed in the worldwide Human
Brain Research programme. Or in the overhyped global Artificial Intelligence
race. In both, Artificial Neural Networks (which are data processing number
crunching devices) are supposed to emulate human brain biological neurons
(which are pure information processing devices). Both fail to fulfill their
promises, but do not understand for what reason and why. The current FIS
discussion certainly will not help them.</SPAN></FONT><FONT
color=black><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="COLOR: black"><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=x_MsoNormal><FONT color=black size=4 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 13pt; COLOR: black">Regards, Emanuel.
</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="COLOR: black"><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P>
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