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<DIV><FONT size=4>Dear Pedro, Emanuel and FIS Colleagues,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=4>1.Thank you for your remarks and interesting
ideas.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>Especially those which are aimed to make our communication
possible in such situation like this in the world now.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>I have no information about plans and possibilities of our
Brazilian colleagues.</FONT> <FONT size=4>So, please write more
details.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>2. I agree with Emanuel that: </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman"><FONT style="FONT-SIZE: 13pt">The proposed
definition of information must be followed by a suggestion of assets that make
it (the information) visible, tangible, palpable. </FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>It was my goal when I had proposed to prepare one or more test
beds.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>3. According to this, now I want to invite you to see my
preliminary proposal of a sample test bed and evaluation tips for testing
information definitions and theories.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>It is simple but, I hope, contains the main objects and their
interactions, which participate in the (humans’!) information
processes.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>Of course, it is only one from many possible.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>If given definition or theory is not applicable to this test
bed, maybe it is possible another one <FONT style="size: +0">to</FONT> be
proposed.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=4>Please see </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Calibri>I whish you to be HEALTHY, HEALTHY, HEALTHY, ....
!!!</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Calibri>Friendly greetings</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Calibri>Krassimir</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=emanl.245@gmail.com
href="mailto:emanl.245@gmail.com">Emanuel Diamant</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, March 10, 2020 5:16 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=pcmarijuan.iacs@aragon.es
href="mailto:pcmarijuan.iacs@aragon.es">'Pedro C. Marijuan'</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=fis@listas.unizar.es
href="mailto:fis@listas.unizar.es">fis@listas.unizar.es</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> [Fis] defining information</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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style='FONT-SIZE: 13pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman","serif"'>Dear Pedro, Dear
FIS colleagues, <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 13pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 13pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman","serif"'>I do not share
the general excitement about the revitalization of the FIS discussion on
information definition. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 13pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman","serif"'>I am not sure
that the principle of “three messages per week” or the ITHEA Cloud Forum, with
an <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 13pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman","serif"'>unlimited number
of posts and 1M-large attachments, is our main problem. I think that our
discussion (again and again) violates the basic principle of any scientific
discourse - the IF-THEN principle - according to which each hypothetical
assumption is followed by a suggestion what stems from it, where, and how these
expectations could be discerned and observed. If I remember right, Terence and
Gordana on several previous occasions have addressed this issue, but their call
has remained unanswered.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 13pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman","serif"'>However,
refreshing the definitions of information we cannot continue to ignore the
IF-THEN rule requirement - How does the defined information look like, how it is
represented, what is its real form? The proposed definition of information must
be followed by a suggestion of assets that make it (the information) visible,
tangible, palpable. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 13pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman","serif"'>Only this kind
of information definitions is being urgently needed in the worldwide Human Brain
Research programme. Or in the overhyped global Artificial Intelligence race. In
both, Artificial Neural Networks (which are data processing number crunching
devices) are supposed to emulate human brain biological neurons (which are pure
information processing devices). Both fail to fulfill their promises, but do not
understand for what reason and why. The current FIS discussion certainly will
not help them.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 13pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman","serif"'>Regards,
Emanuel. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style='FONT-SIZE: 13pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
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