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<p>Dear all,</p>
<p>I am sympathetic to this, though I fear that there are endless
grey areas. There is much more consensus about clitorectomies than
there is about male circumcision, for example.</p>
<p>My pebble in the pond is that a statement about oneself is
different from a statement about another person, and this can
generate asymmetry of information / misinformation. This happens
in 'mansplaining', in discussions about race, and in conversations
about minority groups, such as the Catalans that Loet referred to.
Catalans saying "I feel like this, and would like to do that"
cannot be generating misinformation (assuming self knowledge and
honesty). When Madrid points the finger and says "High treason",
the status of the statement as information/misinformation is up
for political discussion.<br>
</p>
<p>As a Catalan speaker, I would say that the finger pointers in
Madrid are unacceptable, and the Catalans are justified.</p>
<p>But on other occasions I am a finger pointer. I would argue that
the statement "I want to have a clitorectomy" (which some women
sadly do say) is a coerced response to oppression and violence,
and finger pointers like me who want to ban clitorectomies are
justified. But I can't claim that that the woman's statement is
misinformation. <br>
</p>
<p>Acceptability and misinformation do not necessarily go hand in
hand. This is not an argument for moral relativism. It is (as I
see it) an argument that the concept of misinformation is not a
reliable guide to acceptability or moral action.<br>
</p>
<p>Dai<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 21/01/2020 12:14, Joseph Brenner
wrote:<br>
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denounce a principle of cultural relativism that has crept
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discussion. The concept that opposing points of view are
always equally valid
is a form of crypto-fascism that for me is totally
unacceptable. It is Trump’s
“there are good guys on the other side”, which included
the
murderers of a demonstrator. Does anyone on the list want
to suggest that
clitorectomies are acceptable because “it’s part of the
culture”?
I do not intend to include responses to such notes in my
final summary. If this
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