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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Dear Joseph and FIS colleagues,</div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">In response to your question below, the
theme may have appeared partially in some sessions (some posts of
John Collier, I think; ah, and we also had a session on morals by
Robert Artigiani), but never centrally.</div>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">The list of discussion sessions to
check is here (<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://fis.sciforum.net/fis-discussion-sessions/">https://fis.sciforum.net/fis-discussion-sessions/</a>).
Sorry I know I have to actualize it...<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">For my taste, the discussion on
disinformation has provided useful distinctions and related
concepts, but somehow it has flown away, as usually happens, from
the original aims.</div>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">It does not mean it is bad; probably it
reflects our own thinking styles of approaching or re-approaching
our favorite explanatory topics. I remember a distinguished
biology professor who was unable to discuss anything without
arriving to the Darwinian selection of the fittest, of the adapted
phenotype. Then the theme, whatsoever, was solved for him.
Curious.</div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Returning to our multifaceted,
polyhedric topic, I think major explanatory fields needed may be:
biology & ethology, psychology & psychopathology,
anthropology & social science, politics, media studies,
linguistics & logics & philosophy, computer science &
technology. The fields could be put differently, of course... My
contention is that the most "micro" approaches do not bring much
useful results, except participating in a well-crafted synthesis.
The epidemics of fake news, arguably one of the most ambitious
aims herein, was confronted more or less successfully in the media
of the past. The new wave, including the Deep Fake coming soon,
will erode its own basis of gullibility and will promote I think
authentication AI filters, perhaps similar to the Spam filters
emerging in the 90s as I already said. The difference between the
false narrative (finally all news are but micronarratives) and the
true narrative can be "intuited" by the expert in the topic and
this could be partially supported or somehow detected by future
"open minded" Deep L systems... Couldn't it be?<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">In any event, as long as there be
humans around, we will have truths, faithfulness, honor, lies,
deception, etc. interspersed within the existing social means of
communication--provided freedom is upheld.</div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Best wishes,</div>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">--Pedro<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">El 19/01/2020 a las 9:18, Joseph
Brenner escribió:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Lucida Sans Unicode"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Lucida Sans Unicode"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans
Unicode"" lang="EN-GB">The original intent
of my Lecture was to discuss the structure of <i><span
style="font-style:italic">information</span></i>
as well as disinformation. Some recent postings have
suggested to me that there
is much science to do in the area of the positive value of
true information as
opposed to its absence in dis- and mis-information. In
particular, I am interested
in the value of the information exchanged between two or
more individuals.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Lucida Sans Unicode"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans
Unicode"" lang="EN-GB">Again, we are
immediately confronted with issues, carefully studied by
Loet, of communication,
and the difficulty of separating properties of information
and communication. For
example, a dis-informer must choose a information channel
to disseminate his/her
disinformation.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Lucida Sans Unicode"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans
Unicode"" lang="EN-GB">I would just say now
that I think the value of a good exchange of information
between people is
moral/emotional, and one cannot get into these issues
without reference to psychology
and ethics. In other terms, we are here in an area of
science to which standard
logical and computational approaches cannot apply, but in
which we wish to be
as rigorous as possible. Any suggestions which are also
relevant to the major
objective of the New Year Lecture will be included there,
with thanks.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Lucida Sans Unicode"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans
Unicode"" lang="EN-GB">By copy of this
note, I am asking Pedro to please tell us if this area has
been debated or not
within FIS. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Lucida Sans Unicode"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Lucida Sans Unicode"><span
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