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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;line-height:150%;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">The Invention<span>
</span>(20191228)<span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;line-height:150%;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Dear Joseph,<span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;line-height:150%;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">thank you for your invitation to tell what needs to be said,
in simple words: not hiding behind, nor taking refuge in numbers. (There is an
excellent short story by Nelson Bond: “Socrates of the South Forty”. It depicts
a noble savage, who – on his own, by autodidactic means – has developed an
advanced system of natural philosophy.)<span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;line-height:150%;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Concept versus algorithm<span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;line-height:150%;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Consider Pythagoras. He had contemplated triangles long before
contemplating numbers. The intellectual achievement lies in the conscious
effort of handling and controlling, manipulating projection, the neurological defence
mechanism, which we are familiar with from using the Rorschach tables. One actively
looks a triangle unto the perception of a map of a landscape, while preparing to
calculate some distances. Imagine Pythagoras as he developed his invention: over
the optical perception one needs to lay a mental picture of three lines, which
create a triangle over the perceived multitude: step 1. Then one has to look
three squares unto the sides of the triangle, step 2. Then one has to imagine
that the joint surface of the two smaller squares is equal to the surface of
the biggest square, step 3. This is an exercise in imagining, not in
arithmetic. There are no numbers involved in the steps that lead to the
invention. The numbers come later and make a concept to an algorithm. The
imagination has to be clear before one turns to the numbers.<span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;line-height:150%;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">The material contents of the imagination<span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;line-height:150%;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">In the present case, we are standing before the same task. We
have to overlay an optical picture with a newly created vision of a pattern of
relations. The optical picture is that of a few dozens of marbles. These
represent the map with Pythagoras. For the ease of visualisation, one may
suggest to imagine balls which are painted in two colors: green and blue. Both
green and blue can have <i>d </i>intensities. Each ball has an individual
combination of intensities of green & blue, but there are several which
share the intensity attribute. We have now the analogue to the triangle of the
Pythagoras model, by imagining the balls to be coloured. We have overlaid the
image of the balls with combinations of color intensities.<span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;line-height:150%;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">What is to be compared with what<span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;line-height:150%;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">We now invent the squares. These are conceptually different
to the lines. Pythagoras used the same line and the same distance. We use same
distance, but two different lines. We create planes like Pythagoras. While
Pythagoras said: look at how big this is, we say: look, where the ball is. <span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;line-height:150%;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">On improving the inner exactitude of the counting system by
~ 3.4EE-92 %<span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;line-height:150%;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">A historical excurse on how big and how many: the original
idea of the invention came from asking, how the copying (reading) and
re-copying (writing) the genetic information (from the DNA and into the DNA)
could take place, without the system growing out of bounds? The target must be
at least as big (have as many bytes capacity of the tape/hard disk/cpu) as the
source plus something for the meta-data. How do you copy and re-copy something
unto carriers without the target being bigger than the source? This has led to <a href="oeis.org/A242615" style="color:rgb(5,99,193);text-decoration:underline">oeis.org/A242615</a>, which is the basis of all.<span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;line-height:150%;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Places on planes<span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;line-height:150%;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Back to planes and axes. The form of the symbol implicates
its position on an axis. A symbol has a position on a plane of two axes. The
place is exact and is an implication of the form of the symbol. <span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;line-height:150%;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">In the Pythagoras didactic, this was the step of
establishment of the squares that came from the lines that were laid over the
points. In the present didactic, the square has two different axes. On each of
the axes, there is an undisputed position for each of the symbols, they being
ordered by a principle <i>whatsoever1</i> which is the name of the axis <i>x</i>.
Perpendicular to this axis <i>x</i>, we pick a second axis <i>y</i>, which
depicts the sequence of the symbols ordered on a principle <i>whatsoever2. </i>These
two axes <i>x, y </i>create a plane of which the name is <i>xy</i>. That point
on the plane <i>xy</i> where the lines intersect which are parallel to the
other axis and originate at the linear position of a symbol on the linear
sequences imposed on the symbols by the principle <i>whatsoever1 </i>resp. <i>whatsoever2,</i>
is the planar position of that symbol. We have now the concept of the thing, of
which we want to compare some on a property. Pythagoras did it on size,
quantity, on the sum of two against a third. We have a case that is a bit more
complicated.<span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;line-height:150%;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Planes and spaces<span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;line-height:150%;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">First of all, we stick axes together that fit together. If
there is a property <i>whatsoever3 </i>which orders the symbols in a comparable
fashion along an axis <i>z</i>, we shall create planes <i>xz,zy,yx. </i>On each
of the three planes, each symbol has an exact place. <span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;line-height:150%;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Then we see that there are <i>two</i> versions of three axes
being perpendicular, creating impeccable Euclid, Descartes spaces. The two
Euclid spaces are almost perfectly symmetrical. Mention should be made of two
more planes that transcend the two Euclid spaces. <span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;line-height:150%;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Eternal truths<span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;line-height:150%;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Excurse on timelessness and classical logic: all sentences
that are daughters of <i>a=a</i> are eternal, as they are outside of the
temporal dimension. They happen in the moment. The truth to be maintained
continuously has to follow from the form of the symbol imposing on it a
position in a linear order, unto the place of the symbol on a plane created by
two orders. The strict implication can, however, not be continued unto the
third dimension, because the plane ceases to exist in that moment as the
position changes from <i>xy </i><i><span>→</span>
yz </i><i><span>→</span>zx </i><i><span>→ </span>xy </i><i><span>→</span> etc.</i> During the
step of the change of the plane of reference, the truth changes back to its
linear form: <i>pos(plane) </i><i><span>→
pos(sequence) → pos(plane) → etc. </span></i><span>The moment of truth can best be visualised as always jumping
from a place on a plane craniocaudal-lateral unto a place on a plane lateral-sagittal
unto a place on a plane sagittal-craniocaudal, (vertical, horizontal, medial), never
stationary. The fact that patterns arising from resequencing symbols show, that
we have <i>two </i>of such spaces which coexist and create together that Newton
space which we are used to and in which we live in: this fact can be an
explanation for the manifold marvels and wonders Physics and Chemistry investigate.
Here, we speak of genetics and messages transmission, thus of ideal
circumstances, where the left and right subspaces cooperate in the smoothest
fashion imaginable.<span></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;line-height:150%;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span>Comparing
this with that<span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;line-height:150%;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span>Back to
the task of comparing differing extents of properties of mental images. With
Pythagoras, it was extents of surfaces seen in two of them. Here, the two mental
impressions we compare are <i>changes</i> in patterns of webs, woven over
elements. We see two kinds of webs that connect elements that have places on
the surfaces of two 3D spaces. <i>Once</i> we perform a reading of the symbols
according to the spatial, axes-related coordinates. We can theoretically
establish a conceptual place for a symbol in <i>one</i>, imagined, amalgamated
3D space, in which the two actually existing Euclid subspaces coexist happily. <i>Then
</i>we perform a different reading of the symbols which is a reading of all of the
rest. We split the properties of the symbols into such which do have a
relevance as a spatial coordinate, and into such that do not have.<span></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;line-height:150%;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span>Duality<span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;line-height:150%;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span>Now
comes the step of addition. We state that the whole system that we discuss <i>vibrates</i>
like hell. Nothing can vibrate more than this concept. In fact, we state that
the whole system consists of a <i>fixed </i>and a <i>moving </i>part. The fixed
part is a standing wave of the vibrating system. The moving part is that what
happens while the fixed part is out of existence. (Examples: a. Room full of
Las Vegas one armed bandits. They can have wheels with differing numbers of
symbols. One story discusses the movement of wheels during a bet, one story
tells about the number and kinds of winning constellations every run, observed
at the end of the run. b. Caravans doing logistics. One story tells of what is
the inventory in the oases, one story details what is under way.)<span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;line-height:150%;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span>The
term ‘existence’ has been defined as the truth of a statement that a position
of a form in a sequence implicates one of the coordinates of a point on a
surface and that the coordinates of a point on a surface implicate at least one
position of a form in a sequence. This allows for continuity of the idea of
existence along time and yet leaves open the consequences that during the
existence of the truth in the variant of a position of a form in a sequence
there is no word of a position of any symbols on any planes: these do not exist
as subjects of the discourse. <span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;line-height:150%;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span>Pythagoras
said: these two extents are equal to this third extent. Here, the proposition
is as follows: <span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;line-height:150%;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span>The
symbols have a <i>two-fold </i>existence. Firstly, they are subject to a <i>positional
description</i>, arising from the properties of their forms, conferring places
to them on planes <i>xy,yz,zx</i>, therefore to <i>two </i>places in <i>two</i>
3D spaces, one in one each, which appears to the spectator as <i>one </i>3D
space which contains some subspaces. Secondly, they are subject to any and all
of <i>periodic changes</i> that affect the assembly. In the ideal case, the
influences of Earth, Moon, Sun can be relevant and cause predictable, rhythmic,
resequencing among the elements (symbols). <span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;line-height:150%;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">In those moments, where the planar existence is not the
case, while we interpret the linear reading of the sentence <i>form </i><i><span>→ position, </span></i><span>the spatial relations among the
symbols are of relevance and there can be degrees of fitting and less fitting
matches of positions on two planes with regard to the position on the third
plane. <span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;line-height:150%;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span>In
those moments, where the <i>period → position </i>assignments are relevant, the
spatial axes do not exist, as we read the sentence backwards and say that a <i>place
on a plane</i> exists, from which the properties of the axes are a consequence.
We can state, that in respect of </span><i>whatsoever7 </i>and <i>whatsoever9 </i>the
symbol has a position on a plane, irrespective of any regards to the spatial
coordinates. Such planes create all kinds of spaces too, but whether these are
geometrically realisable, is not a subject of the discussion in this present reading
of the sentence about axes, places and planes. <span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;line-height:150%;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Is in the optimal range<span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;line-height:150%;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Split apart, the sentences that discuss spatial
relationships and those that discuss periodic relationships create domains in
which sentences are congruent, and such in which the truth in one of the
logical sub-systems restricts the possibilities in the other one.<span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;line-height:150%;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">To come to the point: the proposition is to sum up the <i>{same,
different}</i> extents when we let the symbols loose alternatively, one beat
non-spatial, one beat spatial. We establish a double sequence of alternate
readings: <span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 36pt;line-height:150%;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Step 1: establish measure for
difference between ideal state and actual state with respect of the positions
of the symbols on the planes generating two Euclid spaces <i>(Pos_t1); </i><span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 36pt;line-height:150%;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Step 2: establish measure for
difference between ideal state and actual state with respect of the positions
of the symbols on the planes depicting periodic processes <i>(Rhm_t1); </i><span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 36pt;line-height:150%;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Step 3: establish measure for
difference between ideal state and actual state with respect of the positions
of the symbols on the planes generating two Euclid spaces <i>(Pos_t2); </i><span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 36pt;line-height:150%;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Step 4: establish measure for
difference between ideal state and actual state with respect of the positions
of the symbols on the planes depicting periodic processes <i>(Rhm_t2); </i><span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;line-height:150%;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">and so forth. One compares changes <i>(Pos_t1) </i><i><span>→ </span>(Pos_t2) </i>vs <i>(Rhm_t1)
</i><i><span>→ </span>(Rhm_t2)</i>
(Example: Game of Chess. Players move alternating. Player A optimises situation
with respect of strategic goal of approaching optimal spatial arrangement, Player
B optimises situation with respect of strategic goal of approaching optimal
position, as dictated by periodic requirement.)<span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;line-height:150%;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">The proposition is that there is a meta-measure governing
the relation between stability and change. The symbols are connected by bonds
of birth, a priori, to two other symbols, together with which they create a
slice of space. These bonds are inalterable and will hold symbols of specific form
variants together; as long as the form of a symbol is a given, it is an
implication, with which other forms it creates geometrically interpretable statements.
As opposed to this, then again, they are connected, from time to time, by common,
but possibly only transient, interest to some of many other symbols, too. Among
these, <i>presently</i> relevant are those, which the rhythm of the
periodicities plays momentarily to the forefront. Within that opportunistic alliance
of the shared goal, specific bonds are established with such other symbols,
with which the symbol shares membership in a corpus of a cycle, (is
co-constituent in a procedure of successive push-away events: in the steps of
cycles symbols get pushed away from places inherited by a different symbol, the
effect being the concretisation, realisation of the coming into existence of
the new order).<span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;line-height:150%;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Measure of continuity<span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;line-height:150%;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Among healthy humans, it is an observed fact, that there
exists an ideal coefficient for the relation between <i>{same, different}, </i>apparently
somewhere around 3:1 ~ 4:1<i>. </i>(We translate the observation ‘<i>varietas
delectat’ </i>into a hypothesis of a range for the value<i> V </i>of <i>varietas</i>.
We state <i>‘V_monotony <= V_optimal <= V_too-much-change’.) </i>The
ideal circumstances for a system of processing data and information demonstrating
the existence of an optimal range for a coefficient, theory should be able to
find it. Self-regulation could mean the adjustment of predictabilities in one
of the subsystems such that predictable outcomes are achieved in the other
subsystem. If the periodic processes interact in such a fashion with the spatial
properties of the elements, that the resulting movement patterns are
realisable, the system is accommodated to its surroundings. Then, the basic
tautology is satisfied, by finding appropriate arguments for the sentence <i>form
</i><i><span>→ position ↔ rhythm
→ position. </span></i><span>Then,
rhythm becomes form, which would mean that on Earth such life forms can evolve
which can evolve on Earth. <span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;line-height:150%;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span>Here
ends the simple words presentation of the invention.<span></span></span></p>
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</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Am Fr., 27. Dez. 2019 um 19:22 Uhr schrieb Joseph Brenner <<a href="mailto:joe.brenner@bluewin.ch">joe.brenner@bluewin.ch</a>>:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Lucida Sans Unicode" color="navy"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans Unicode";color:navy">Dear Karl,<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Lucida Sans Unicode" color="navy"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans Unicode";color:navy"><u></u> <u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Lucida Sans Unicode" color="navy"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans Unicode";color:navy" lang="EN-GB">In order to have a discussion of a quality that all the members of
this group deserve, I would greatly appreciate your saying, in your own words, what
the boundaries of your approach are: to what real phenomena it does NOT apply
or is irrelevant. If you believe it applies to everything, I would only ask if
this includes your preference for – and my resistance to - a theory
grounded in numbers or numerical relations.<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Lucida Sans Unicode" color="navy"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans Unicode";color:navy" lang="EN-GB"><u></u> <u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Lucida Sans Unicode" color="navy"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans Unicode";color:navy" lang="EN-GB">I can state what the boundaries of <i><span style="font-style:italic">my
</span></i>approach are: it does not apply to logical objects based on standard
notions of semantic truth or its mathematical equivalent.<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Lucida Sans Unicode" color="navy"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans Unicode";color:navy" lang="EN-GB"><u></u> <u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Lucida Sans Unicode" color="navy"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans Unicode";color:navy" lang="EN-GB">I further state that an ontology based on exclusion is <i><span style="font-style:italic">ipso facto </span></i>not a natural philosophy,
although it is possible to include it (<i><span style="font-style:italic">sic</span></i>),
and other idealized systems, in philosophy <i><span style="font-style:italic">tout
court.<u></u><u></u></span></i></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><font size="2" face="Lucida Sans Unicode" color="navy"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans Unicode";color:navy;font-style:italic" lang="EN-GB"><u></u> <u></u></span></font></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Lucida Sans Unicode" color="navy"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans Unicode";color:navy" lang="EN-GB">The real world includes, together with their positive counterparts,
the variable, the uncertain, the contradictory, and the weak. <u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Lucida Sans Unicode" color="navy"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans Unicode";color:navy" lang="EN-GB"><u></u> <u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Lucida Sans Unicode" color="navy"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans Unicode";color:navy" lang="EN-GB">It also includes ‘intertwining’ of real processes as
well as of mathematical functions.<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Lucida Sans Unicode" color="navy"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans Unicode";color:navy" lang="EN-GB">Information gathering is more than a process of eliminating false
assumptions, it is a process of understanding them, in particular those in one’s
own work . . .<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Lucida Sans Unicode" color="navy"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans Unicode";color:navy" lang="EN-GB">Information exists and does not exist ‘on its own’:
figure <i><span style="font-style:italic">and </span></i>ground; shadow <i><span style="font-style:italic">and</span></i> reality; what is <i><span style="font-style:italic">and </span></i>what is not the case.<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold" lang="EN-US">From:</span></font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma" lang="EN-US">
Fis [mailto:<a href="mailto:fis-bounces@listas.unizar.es" target="_blank">fis-bounces@listas.unizar.es</a>] <b><span style="font-weight:bold">On
Behalf Of </span></b>Karl Javorszky<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> vendredi, 27 décembre 2019
02:03<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> Stanley N Salthe<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc:</span></b> fis<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Fis] Newsletter and
Season Greetings</span></font><span lang="EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12pt">Dear Michel, <u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12pt">As to more funding being available for posing/framing information as a
part of a Shannon-related application - why not?<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12pt">The math behind genetics and computers processing data is the same.
Symbols have forms and positions. Shannon uses two forms (0,1) and writes/reads
the positions sequentially. Nature makes use of a pattern of positions (4 forms
on 3 positions), embedded in a sequence of maximal length of 128 segments.
Nature uses the intertwining of two functions which describe the upper limit
each of the capacity to transmit messages by means of symbols on objects.
One of the functions is used by Shannon and is excellent and fine. This
describes the throughput capacity of n objects when written/read sequentially.
Applications of this principle are indeed more advantageous than the
alternative, up until one does not use for transmission of messages collections
of objects that number more than 32. Then, the alternative way of transmitting
messages by symbols on objects gets more advantageous. It is more efficient to
place different symbols on objects and write/read them while regarding the
whole lot as a structure, if the lot consists of 66 +/- 30 objects. One
can play funny tricks with such a minor inexactitude between two functions.
Nature does so. Please look up <a href="http://oeis.org/A242615" target="_blank">oeis.org/A242615</a>.<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12pt">Learning is built on memory. Memory is the field of writing/reading.
Intelligence comes with the comparison of ex_memory with ex_perception on
similarity. To discover similarity, things must be able to be different. The
not similar is then not the case. So 1. we can't discuss it, hence the
difficulties with the term information, 2. we need to foresee an alternative to
our current, linear, understanding of what is the case. In our current system
of truths, alternatives are not contained: there is but one truth. We now
unveil further details of logical objects: in dependence of their form, their
position is a corollary in a particular order. The non-existence of that order
or the existence of a different order creates a class of form-position links
which is not the case. Yet we can deal with it, because it can (again) be the
case. This mental construct can be called both potential and information. Their
collection can serve as a built in collection of alternatives. <u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12pt">It doesn't take long to find the space building patterns. There, the
discussion diverges. Structures can or can not be linearised, sequences can or
can not delineate structures. The translations, actually restrictions, Nature
uses in genetics can also be utilized in artificial intelligence. In both
approaches, ideal circumstances are assumed. That Nature uses exclusion rather
than pointing out, underlines that information gathering is a process of
eliminating false assumptions. Focusing means leaving aside the
irrelevant. <u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12pt">No problem framing the system of two different versions of logical
deductions of truths creating lots of interference in such a way which raises
the appetite of people in artificial intelligence.<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12pt">Karl Javorszky <<a href="mailto:karl.javorszky@gmail.com" target="_blank">karl.javorszky@gmail.com</a>>
schrieb am Do., 26. Dez. 2019, 20:57:<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12pt">Information does not exist on its own. It is the background, to which
that what exists, relates. It is a shadow, characterized by the form and
position of that object which we discuss. <u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12pt">Information is the description of that what is not the case.
Information is the collection of the remaining alternatives. <u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12pt">Stanley N Salthe <<a href="mailto:ssalthe@binghamton.edu" target="_blank">ssalthe@binghamton.edu</a>> schrieb am Do., 26. Dez. 2019,
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12pt">FIS'ers -- The domain of information is like that of spilled milk
(or wine) on an empty table.<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12pt">STAN<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12pt">On Thu, Dec 26, 2019 at 6:17 AM Michel Petitjean <<a href="mailto:petitjean.chiral@gmail.com" target="_blank">petitjean.chiral@gmail.com</a>>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12pt">Dear Xueshan, dear All, dear FISers,<br>
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This is a really important question: what are the relations between<br>
information science and computer science?<br>
At least the word "information" is common two both fields.<br>
Also, in my opinion, Shannon information should be considered to be<br>
part of both fields.<br>
However, more funding seems available via computer science.<br>
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Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!<br>
<br>
Michel.<br>
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Michel Petitjean<br>
Université de Paris, BFA, CNRS UMR 8251, INSERM ERL U1133, F-75013 Paris,
France<br>
Phone: +331 5727 8434; Fax: +331 5727 8372<br>
E-mail: <a href="mailto:petitjean.chiral@gmail.com" target="_blank">petitjean.chiral@gmail.com</a>
(preferred),<br>
<a href="mailto:michel.petitjean@univ-paris-diderot.fr" target="_blank">michel.petitjean@univ-paris-diderot.fr</a><br>
<a href="http://petitjeanmichel.free.fr/itoweb.petitjean.html" target="_blank">http://petitjeanmichel.free.fr/itoweb.petitjean.html</a><br>
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Le jeu. 26 déc. 2019 à 02:31, Xueshan Yan <<a href="mailto:yxs@pku.edu.cn" target="_blank">yxs@pku.edu.cn</a>> a écrit :<br>
><br>
> Dear Marcin,<br>
><br>
> I agree with your fundraising is an urgent issue in IS4SI, but I only give
a few lines on your point 5. You have touched the tenderest area around us: Is
computer science an information science? If is, what is the relationship
between it and the information science that we are pursuing here? If not, why?<br>
><br>
> Higher education of information in Japan has some good cases for us.
Tohoku University, Tokyo University, etc. have treated technical information
and human information separately successfully. In a sense, they are ahead of
us.<br>
><br>
> Another question pressing us enough headache is: Is genetics an
information science? Same: Is neuroscience an information science? The
fundamental concept in both of these two disciplines is Information. Another
subject in which information becomes more and more basic in biology is
endocrinology.<br>
><br>
> Understanding of information science as a much broader domain of study
just is the pursuit of IS4SI, we only have the form but without the content of
it now, what could we propagate to related colleagues? So, not only a big task
is it, but a despairing task is it too. Beyond computer science, biology,
physics, and chemistry, etc. are the basic characteristics of FIS, but this
burden has been more and more beyond our ability and is becoming its
characteristics.<br>
><br>
> Merry Christmas & Happy New Year to all colleagues!<br>
><br>
> Xueshan<br>
><br>
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