<div dir="ltr">But the problem with this is that it does not apply to the way that <div>humans and animals communicate information <div><div>when they do it directly from Mind-to-Mind. </div><div>Very common with lots of examples.</div><div><br></div><div>This is accomplished through direct communication of ideas, </div></div></div><div>for which a sophisticated and well-defined theory now exists. </div><div><br></div><div>How do you number ideas? Maybe you can do it by numbering 'idea-grams- </div><div>by taking the Chinese symbols. But then how do you give every new molecule </div><div>that is identified, or synthesized an idea-gram? </div><div><br></div><div>This seems to me a thorny problem. BUT it is Essential to Tackle it, </div><div>because Ideas are the foundation of Human Cognition. </div><div><br></div><div>Alex Hankey </div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 11 February 2018 at 19:26, Karl Javorszky <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:karl.javorszky@gmail.com" target="_blank">karl.javorszky@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span lang="DE-AT">Dear Krassimir,<span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span lang="DE-AT"><span> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Improvements are done if there is a need to do so, innovations
come about as a result of creativity, not as answers to an existing need, but
as voluntary exertions that satisfy curiosity.<span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Taking your example of having enumerated all signals
(phonemes, letters, words), the non-necessary innovation would be to create a
parallel enumeration of all signals (say, in Hungarian, alongside your existing
Bulgarian catalogue) and observe the priority (linear position) of the signal
in the respective repertoire. (Say: {water, air, sun, mother, eat, …} are enumerated
in (BG, HU) on positions {(3,6), (2,5), (7,7), (1,8),…}.)<span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">These ((3,6),(2,5),…) are x,y coordinates on a plane of which
the axes are: Table: “Priorities of concepts in Bulgarian and Hungarian”, Axe
x: BG, Axe y: HU. If one would play a few minutes with his or her computer, one
would see the points of the plane.<span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Finding that some of the pairs are members of a cycle (that
is a polygon of which the corners are the (x,y) coordinates of those elements
that change places with each other in a general enumeration of concepts (BGHU
or HUBG)) one would connect the corners of the polygons with lines, differently
coloured lines for each cycle, and maybe find pleasure in discovering the
concepts of consistent enumerations.<span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Seduction happens when the person to be seduced sees <i>no need</i> to do that what the seducer
wants him to do. The seducer must necessarily paint charming pictures about the
future of the seducee, if only that would do that what the seducer invites him
to do.<span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">My sweet honey learned and respected friends, you will all
be very much entertained and gain many rewards and gratulations if you take the
trouble and think this through, and get familiar with talking in terms of
logical compromises (from tautology to instability) and discontinuities. This
because it is actually so that the arithmetic rules of reordering impose
threads and filaments in space, as simple implicit corollaries of <i>a+b=c</i>. If a collection can be ordered in
different ways, it is reasonable to speak about the most probable intermediate
state that collection is in. There is no need to do so, but ….<span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Best<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><span></span></font></span></p><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Karl <span></span></p>
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