<div dir="ltr">Cari colleghi,<div>lasciateVi e lasciatemi dire che le cellule, essendo detentrici e portatrici di INFORMAZIONE genetica, COMUNICANO o scelgono di NON COMUNICARE tra loro nel bene o nel male e non possono avere alcun altro SIGNIFICATO-funzione. Sono stato sempre convinto di questo, come dimostrano in maniera organica e sistematica, fra le tante altre, le pagine 115-121 di "Etica dei valori economici o economia dei valori etici" (FrancoAngeli, Milano, 2003), Purtroppo, l'affermo con serenità e la pace dell'anima, questo saggio non ha avuto il successo che meritava!</div><div>Un saluto cordiale.</div><div>Francecso Rizzo</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2017-02-09 17:41 GMT+01:00 Pedro C. Marijuan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:pcmarijuan.iacs@aragon.es" target="_blank">pcmarijuan.iacs@aragon.es</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div class="m_-6794215909644307068moz-cite-prefix">Dear Marcus and Colleagues,<br>
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Thanks for your interest. The Chengdu's Conference represented for
me an occasion to return to my beginnings, in the 80's, when I
prepared a PhD Thesis: "Natural Intelligence: On the evolution of
biological information processing". It was mostly following a top
down approach. But in some of the discussions outdoors of the
conference (a suggestion for the next one in Shanghai: plenary
discussion sessions should also be organized) I realized that
biomolecular things have changed quite a lot. One could go
nowadays the other way around: from the molecular-informational
organization of cellular life, to intelligence of the cell's
behavior withing the environment. The life cycle es essential. It
provides the source of "meaning" (as I have often argued in
discussions in the list) but it is also the reference for
"intelligence". Communicating with the environment and
self-producing by means of the environmental affordances have to
be smoothly organized so that the stages of the life cycle may be
advanced, and that the "problems" arising from the internal or the
external may be adequately solved. It means signalling and
self-modifying in front of the open-ended environmental problems,
sensing and acting coherently... It strangely connects with the
notion of human "story" and the communication cycle in the
humanities. Relating intelligence to goal accomplishment or to an
architecture of goals as usually done in computational realms
implies that the real life course (or the surrogate) is reduced to
a very narrow segment. True intelligence evaporates. <br>
These were some of my brute reflections that I have to keep musing
around (I saw interesting repercussions for cellular signaling
"narratives" too). Maybe this is also a good opportunity for other
parties of that conference to expostulate their own impressions
--very exciting presentations both from Chinese and Western
colleagues there.<br>
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Thanks again,<br>
--Pedro<div><div class="h5"><br>
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El 08/02/2017 a las 14:14, Marcus Abundis escribió:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">> In next weeks some further discussion might be
started, but at the time being, the slot is empty (any
ideas?)<
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<div>Hi Pedro,</div>
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<div>For my part I would appreciate a chance to hear more about
the thoughts you have been developing (even if they are very
rough) as related to the talk you gave in China last summer.</div>
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<div>Alternatively, further thoughts on Gordana's talk would be
nice to hear.</div>
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<div>For both of these talks, you both shared your presentation
stack . . . but there was so much information in both of those
talks, it would be nice to have some of "unpacked."</div>
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<div>Marcus</div>
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