<div dir="ltr">Cari Tutti, <div>ho inviato il 24 gennaio la mail che ripropongo perché potrebbe, per mio errore, non essere pervenuta:</div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px">Cari Diego Lucio, Andrea, Alessandro e Tutti,</span><div style="font-size:12.8px">il Vostro è un bel discorso, come il saggio allegato all'ultima mail. Lo apprezzo molto perché ha un valore euristico generale, poiché vale sia per le scienze naturali sia per le scienze umane. Io, ad es.,applico lo stesso principio da circa 40 anni nella "Nuova economia" avente una teoria del valore basata proprio sul triangolo dei tre surplus o delle tre neg-entropie. Il che non deve "stupire" perché Ilya Prigogine ha avuto il premio Nobel proprio per avere inventato scoperto le strutture dissipative che creano ordine (informazione neg-entropica) dal disordine (degradazione energetica o disinformzaione entropica) mediante fluttuazioni. Anche ogni azienda o impresa economica è una struttura dissipativa. Mi "stupisce", invece, che la gran parte degli economisti, per non dire quasi tutti, compresi tanti Nobel, non se ne siano accorti. Il momento in cui si passa da un'entropia positiva ad una entropia presa col segno negativo (neg-entropia) dà luogo a singolarità, asimmetrie, discontinuità: è così che si ottiene o mantiene la vita e avanza la conoscenza o la scienza.</div><div style="font-size:12.8px">Grazie, complimenti e felicitazioni augurali.</div><div style="font-size:12.8px">Francesco Rizzo</div><div class="gmail-yj6qo gmail-ajU" style="margin:2px 0px 0px;font-size:12.8px"><div id="gmail-:13j" class="gmail-ajR" tabindex="0"><img class="gmail-ajT" src="https://ssl.gstatic.com/ui/v1/icons/mail/images/cleardot.gif" style="opacity: 0.3;"></div></div><div class="gmail_quote">---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: <b class="gmail_sendername">Bruno Marchal</b> <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:marchal@ulb.ac.be">marchal@ulb.ac.be</a>></span><br>Date: 2017-01-26 18:53 GMT+01:00<br>Subject: Re: [Fis] [Sadhu Sanga] Physics hype ...<br>To: Andrew Fingelkurts / BM-Science <<a href="mailto:andrew.fingelkurts@bm-science.com">andrew.fingelkurts@bm-science.com</a>><br>Cc: Jeremy Dunning-Davies <<a href="mailto:J.Dunning-Davies@hull.ac.uk">J.Dunning-Davies@hull.ac.uk</a>>, <a href="mailto:contact@howgravityworks.org">contact@howgravityworks.org</a>, <a href="mailto:squash@gotsky.com">squash@gotsky.com</a>, fis <<a href="mailto:fis@listas.unizar.es">fis@listas.unizar.es</a>>, Diego Lucio Rapoport <<a href="mailto:diego.rapoport@gmail.com">diego.rapoport@gmail.com</a>>, Brian J Ford <<a href="mailto:bjford@sciences.demon.co.uk">bjford@sciences.demon.co.uk</a>>, <a href="mailto:Online_Sadhu_Sanga@googlegroups.com">Online_Sadhu_Sanga@googlegroups.com</a><br><br><br><div style="word-wrap:break-word">Dear Andrew,<div><br><div><div>On 26 Jan 2017, at 10:22, Andrew Fingelkurts / BM-Science wrote:</div><br class="gmail-m_-7519267249607594355Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="gmail-m_-7519267249607594355Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:separate;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:helvetica;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:-webkit-auto;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;font-size:medium"><div lang="EN-GB"><div class="gmail-m_-7519267249607594355WordSection1"><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Dear Diego,<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Thank you very much for your thoughtful comments. We are not mathematicians neither physicists, therefore some advanced concepts are not easy to follow, but we will try to look at your work in relation to your comments :)<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">In the end of your message you have referred to the dilemma of God… It sounds similar to our paper: “Is our brain hardwired to produce God or is our brain hardwired to perceive God? A systematic review on the role of the brain in mediating religious experience.” This paper is outside the physics domain and also does not touch explicitly ‘information’, - it discusses the empirical evidence about the neural constituents of religious experience and analyse it critically. For those who might be interested, please have a look here:<span class="gmail-m_-7519267249607594355Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.bm-science.com/team/art56.pdf" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">http://www.bm-science.<wbr>com/team/art56.pdf</a><u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></div></div></div></span></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Very interesting paper. Is God invented or discovered? Usually that question is asked for mathematical notions.</div><div><br></div><div>If we assume Computationalism (Digital Mechanism), the religious experience is when a universal number or digital machine discovers that truth extends its own reason ability. Gödel's second incompleteness theorem, with f = "false", and [] = Gödel's bewesibar predicate, and "~" the negation, is that the formula ~[]f -> ~[](~[]f) is true *about* self-referentially correct (or just consistent) system, and that is remarkable, but, as Gödel claimed already (and was proved later by Hilbert & Bernays) the remarkable fact is that such system, if rich enough to "believe" in the induction axioms, can prove its own Gödel's theorem, and develop what looks like an intuition and a learning ability with respect to the truth extending its justifiability spectrum, like when we believe in Universe(s) or God(s). For machine, there is a corona of true but non justifiable by reason alone, extending reason. I call it now the surrational, as it extends the provable with the true but non provable assertions.</div><div><br></div><div>In fact, incompleteness re-introduces the Theaetetus' nuances between truth, belief ([]p) and knowledge ([]p & p), and if we define the soul by the first person knower, we get the material nuances as well, making the theology of the self-referentially correct machine testable, by comparing its constraints with the empirical apparent constraints, which I did, actually.</div><div>Those theologies are closer to Parmenides, Plato, Moderatus of Gades, and the Neoplatonists (Plotinus, Proclus, ...) than to Aristotle. Yet it follows logically from assuming only that consciousness (the zeroth mystical state) is invariant for some recursive permutation. The incompleteness divides all points of view into the rationally communicable and the non rationally communicable one. Only for the Soul such division does not occur. For the material views, this leads, arguably, to the splitting between quanta and qualia.</div><div><br></div><div>Machines have a very interesting canonical theology, in the Plato sense where the divine is extensional to the truth. The machines, like Peano Arithmetic; or Zermelo-Fraenkel Set Theory, already know that their soul is *not* a machine. For them, experiencing truth is true but neither definable still less provable. Experiencing consistency is definable, but not provable, but somehow testable locally.</div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Bruno</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><br><blockquote type="cite"><span class="gmail-m_-7519267249607594355Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:separate;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:helvetica;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:-webkit-auto;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;font-size:medium"><div lang="EN-GB"><div class="gmail-m_-7519267249607594355WordSection1"><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Greetings,<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">A&A<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><span class="gmail-m_-7519267249607594355Apple-converted-space"> </span>Diego Lucio Rapoport [<a href="mailto:diego.rapoport@gmail.com" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">mailto:diego.rapoport@gmail.<wbr>com</a>]<span class="gmail-m_-7519267249607594355Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><b>Sent:</b><span class="gmail-m_-7519267249607594355Apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday, 25 January, 2017 04:38<br><b>To:</b><span class="gmail-m_-7519267249607594355Apple-converted-space"> </span>Andrew Fingelkurts / BM-Science<br><b>Cc:</b><span class="gmail-m_-7519267249607594355Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:Online_Sadhu_Sanga@googlegroups.com" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">Online_Sadhu_Sanga@<wbr>googlegroups.com</a>;<span class="gmail-m_-7519267249607594355Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:squash@gotsky.com" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">squash@<wbr>gotsky.com</a>; Jeremy Dunning-Davies; fis; Brian J Ford;<span class="gmail-m_-7519267249607594355Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:contact@howgravityworks.org" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">contact@howgravityworks.<wbr>org</a><br><b>Subject:</b><span class="gmail-m_-7519267249607594355Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Fis] [Sadhu Sanga] Physics hype ...<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif">Dear Andrew and Alexander<u></u><u></u></div></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif">Thank you dearly for your most striking comment that the transition of non-linear thermodynamical systems from exploding entropy to a reorganization of the system<u></u><u></u></div></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif">through negative entropy as per my work is the case of the brain as per your work following Freeman's tradition. (You even wrote it almost identically to my own presentation!)<br>Allow me to suggest however, that rather than a nested hierarchy (say a Matrushka) as already suggested by Freeman, which is an iterated dual logophysics,<u></u><u></u></div></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif">the case is of an hyperKlein Bottle which is non-dual and heterarchical, rather than hierarchical (or, in other terms, both), as discussed in my work retaking MacCulloch's 1945 work.<u></u><u></u></div></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif">The neural networks that Freeman considered as producing the nested hierarchy may well be non-orientable (Mobius strip ) as discussed also in my work, being the case that the topographic<u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif">maps of vision and somatosensory systems have the Klein Bottle topology, as is also the case of genomes.<u></u><u></u></div></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif">I look forward to study your works and return to you.<span class="gmail-m_-7519267249607594355Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>By the way, this non-dual logophysics which integrates Outside and Inside -as is the Klein Bottle- seems to be the natural one regarding the issue whether<u></u><u></u></div></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif">God(s) produces our bodies as to cognize him (her) and organize our lives or we produce God(s).<u></u><u></u></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 12pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif">Best and kind regards,<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 12pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif">Diego Rapoport<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif">PS Does the dimensional reduction of the olfactory phenomenology to the single radial "spherical" dimension at the olfactory bulb<span class="gmail-m_-7519267249607594355Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>indicates a projective geometry with antipodal points identified, as retaken by Freeman from earlier research?<span class="gmail-m_-7519267249607594355Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>Would that be indeed the case, then finite sections of the bulb would be Mobius strips :-) (!!)<u></u><u></u></div></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif">2017-01-24 7:24 GMT-03:00 Andrew Fingelkurts / BM-Science <<a href="mailto:andrew.fingelkurts@bm-science.com" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">andrew.fingelkurts@bm-<wbr>science.com</a>>:<u></u><u></u></div><div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif"> <u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Dear All,</span><u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span><u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">In relation to the below mentioned “any non-linear thermodynamical system actually increases to develop a singularity which is followed</span><u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">by the reorganization of the system through negative entropy, following the destruction of the system in its previous form” we would like to comment that exactly the same principle is observed in the nested hierarchy of the brain electromagnetic field that supports the nested hierarchy of mentality and consciousness in particular (for a complete description and discussion, please see <a href="http://www.bm-science.com/team/art76.pdf" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">http://www.bm-science.com/<wbr>team/art76.pdf</a>)</span><u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span><u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Greetings,</span><u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Andrew and Alexander</span><u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span><u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span><u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><span class="gmail-m_-7519267249607594355Apple-converted-space"> </span>Fis [<a href="mailto:fis-bounces@listas.unizar.es" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">mailto:fis-bounces@listas.<wbr>unizar.es</a>]<span class="gmail-m_-7519267249607594355Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="gmail-m_-7519267249607594355Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Diego Lucio Rapoport<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="gmail-m_-7519267249607594355Apple-converted-space"> </span>Monday, 23 January, 2017 05:28<br><b>To:</b><span class="gmail-m_-7519267249607594355Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:Online_Sadhu_Sanga@googlegroups.com" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">Online_Sadhu_Sanga@<wbr>googlegroups.com</a>;<span class="gmail-m_-7519267249607594355Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:squash@gotsky.com" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">squash@<wbr>gotsky.com</a>; Jeremy Dunning-Davies<br><b>Cc:</b><span class="gmail-m_-7519267249607594355Apple-converted-space"> </span>fis;<span class="gmail-m_-7519267249607594355Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:bjford@sciences.demon.co.uk" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">bjford@sciences.<wbr>demon.co.uk</a>;<span class="gmail-m_-7519267249607594355Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:contact@howgravityworks.org" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">contact@<wbr>howgravityworks.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b><span class="gmail-m_-7519267249607594355Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Fis] [Sadhu Sanga] Physics hype ...</span><u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif"> <u></u><u></u></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 12pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif">Dear Colleagues<u></u><u></u></p></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif">Returning to the issue discussed by Dr Rich Norman of the validity of the second law of thermodynamics in relation to biology where negative entropy drives<u></u><u></u></div></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif">systems to self-organize, I would like to comment that<span class="gmail-m_-7519267249607594355Apple-converted-space"> </span><u>any non-linear</u><span class="gmail-m_-7519267249607594355Apple-converted-space"> </span>thermodynamical system actually increases to develop a singularity which is followed<u></u><u></u></div></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif">by the reorganization of the system through negative entropy, following the destruction of the system in its previous form.<u></u><u></u></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 12pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif"><br>This is related to the non-orientability -say Mobius strip- of the compactified complex number system as discussed in<br><a href="https://www.academia.edu/30485983/Klein_Bottle_Logophysics_Self-reference_Heterarchies_Genomic_Topologies_Harmonics_and_Evolution._Part_I_Morphomechanics_Space_and_Time_in_Biology_and_Physics_Cognition_Non-Linearity_and_the_Structure_of_Uncertainty" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">https://www.academia.edu/<wbr>30485983/Klein_Bottle_<wbr>Logophysics_Self-reference_<wbr>Heterarchies_Genomic_<wbr>Topologies_Harmonics_and_<wbr>Evolution._Part_I_<wbr>Morphomechanics_Space_and_<wbr>Time_in_Biology_and_Physics_<wbr>Cognition_Non-Linearity_and_<wbr>the_Structure_of_Uncertainty</a><u></u><u></u></p></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif">and the implications to chemistry, biology, cognition, metamathematics, genomics and evolution are discussed in<u></u><u></u></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 12pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif"><br><a href="https://www.academia.edu/30546256/Klein_Bottle_Logophysics_Self-reference_Heterarchies_Genomic_Topologies_Harmonics_and_Evolution._Part_II_Non-orientability_Cognition_Chemical_Topology_and_Eversions_in_Nature" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">https://www.academia.edu/<wbr>30546256/Klein_Bottle_<wbr>Logophysics_Self-reference_<wbr>Heterarchies_Genomic_<wbr>Topologies_Harmonics_and_<wbr>Evolution._Part_II_Non-<wbr>orientability_Cognition_<wbr>Chemical_Topology_and_<wbr>Eversions_in_Nature</a><br><br><a href="https://www.academia.edu/30518156/Klein_Bottle_Logophysics_Self-reference_Heterarchies_Genomic_Topologies_Harmonics_and_Evolution._Part_III_The_Klein_Bottle_Logic_of_Genomics_and_its_Dynamics_Quantum_Information_Complexity_and_Palindromic_Repeats_in_Evolution" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">https://www.academia.edu/<wbr>30518156/Klein_Bottle_<wbr>Logophysics_Self-reference_<wbr>Heterarchies_Genomic_<wbr>Topologies_Harmonics_and_<wbr>Evolution._Part_III_The_Klein_<wbr>Bottle_Logic_of_Genomics_and_<wbr>its_Dynamics_Quantum_<wbr>Information_Complexity_and_<wbr>Palindromic_Repeats_in_<wbr>Evolution</a><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 12pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif">Best regards<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif">Diego Rapoport<u></u><u></u></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 12pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif"><br><br><u></u><u></u></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><blockquote style="border-style:none none none solid;border-top-width:initial;border-right-width:initial;border-bottom-width:initial;border-top-color:initial;border-right-color:initial;border-bottom-color:initial;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt;margin:5pt 0cm 5pt 4.8pt"><div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif">w). Thank you for starting this topic, Dr. Ford. Your piece is correct by my estimation, and fits quite exactly with many statements in our new book. [Are you familiar with Bechamp?…that chalk sir! You may request a paper which makes tangible use of physics within cell biology. Those were stunning images in your paper.] There is a great deal of this rot in physics and cosmology. Before I begin a new thread concerning causality, I must add my sad approval to the exhausted refrain below, which did not offend me in any way. The situation in my broken country and the world inspires such painful honesty. I will put a link to a paper concerning gravitation which is in keeping, added below the following comment by Eric Sabo, and then a possible explanation. <u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif"> <u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif">“At CERN and Fermilab, no two collisions are exactly the same.<u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif">Their efforts are a waste of time as any particles they create only last nanoseconds and then they "evaporate".<u></u><u></u></div></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif"> <u></u><u></u></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif">The really odd thing is not one physicist at those facilities ever ask "Where did they evaporate to?"...<u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif">(The only logical answer is, back to the Aether.) It's just a jobs program for physicists.<u></u><u></u></div></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif"> <u></u><u></u></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif">What's really odd is they pat themselves on the backs and hand out Nobel Prizes for their efforts.<u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif">I see the real benefit of those projects is that it's all good magnet R&D...... (For future Antimatter Containment)<u></u><u></u></div></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif"> <u></u><u></u></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif">. . . .Residing in the urban environment give me the impression that the stupid people have propagated out of control.<u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif">And, every one of them has the right to exist..... and vote!....... (There's no hope for Humanity.)”<u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif"> <u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif">You sir, are right! <span class="gmail-m_-7519267249607594355Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://www.researchgate.net/publication/310845151_Practical_and_theoretical_assessment_of_relativistic_theory_v_2?ev=prf_pub" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">https://www.<wbr>researchgate.net/publication/<wbr>310845151_Practical_and_<wbr>theoretical_assessment_of_<wbr>relativistic_theory_v_2?ev=<wbr>prf_pub</a><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif"> <u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif">I have just completed a book detailing a great deal of this kind of thing. A LONG book, gentlemen! <i><u>Science hype, and deception</u></i>. Just look at all that overstatement and deception. Have you read the papers debunking LIGO? Here is our new book<span class="gmail-m_-7519267249607594355Apple-converted-space"> </span><i>Beyond the Veil: Deception, truth and the hidden promise of science</i>.<u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif"> <u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Beyond-Veil-Deception-Thoughts-Conventional/dp/1541117409/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1483385806&sr=1-1" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">https://www.amazon.com/Beyond-<wbr>Veil-Deception-Thoughts-<wbr>Conventional/dp/1541117409/<wbr>ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&<wbr>qid=1483385806&sr=1-1</a><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif"> <u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif"><b>Here is a new thought for you:</b><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif"> <u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif">Does the second law of thermodynamics imply by necessity the social turbulence we see all around us? The answer is no, entropy increase itself does not imply social discord as a necessary consequence. Biological life is itself an expression of negative entropy, an exporting of entropy in order to sustain itself and its organized processes. The biology should by multiplicative extension increase negative entropy through numerical increase. <u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif"> <u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif">I will speculate to explain the effects witnessed: The effect we see, the social horror then, I will hypothesize is a function of the lack of emergent intelligence from the new larger system. Instead of a healthy intra-connected single human system, as analogously in the case of a mat of bacteria relating to its cohabited environment, the<span class="gmail-m_-7519267249607594355Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://www.researchgate.net/publication/296687326_Physical_Non-Contact_Communication_between_Microscopic_Aquatic_Species_Novel_Experimental_Evidences_for_an_Interspecies_Information_Exchange?enrichId=rgreq-509630d830172fd20d252b3bd4d6f19c-XXX&enrichSource=Y292ZXJQYWdlOzI5NjY4NzMyNjtBUzozMzU5NTA0MDk0MjA4MDdAMTQ1NzEwODIyNzI5NQ%3D%3D&el=1_x_2&_esc=publicationCoverPdf" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">connection between the microorganisms fostering a cooperative intelligence to emerge which guides proliferation and development</a>, a function terminated with interrupted intra-connectivity, our race is set against itself, the single system broken apart, our unconscious connectivity in my estimation has been shut off: we compete at every turn, and our mental topography has removed the inner means to support the healthy effect! I believe, the paper linked below contains the answer. To have altered the aspects in this document, has changed my ‘luck.’ My entire world seems effortless and on track. I believe, the loss of identifications with the world and our fellow humans is the cause of the discord. Theoretically, as a mat of bacteria, we should operate in cooperative mutual adjustment with the other organisms which share our environment…I hypothesize: but for this.<u></u><u></u></div></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;min-height:21px"> <u></u><u></u></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif"><a href="https://www.researchgate.net/publication/309566203_Super-ego_and_the_neuroscience_of_empathy_from_unconscious_wish_to_manifest_behavior--a_new_human_model" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">https://www.researchgate.net/<wbr>publication/309566203_Super-<wbr>ego_and_the_neuroscience_of_<wbr>empathy_from_unconscious_wish_<wbr>to_manifest_behavior--a_new_<wbr>human_model</a><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif"> <u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif"> <u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif">Thank you for all this new thinking. The recent email from John Kineman was simply excellent. I will begin a thread later on related topics.<u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif"> <u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif">Thank you,<u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif"> <u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif">Rich Norman<u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif">Journal of Unconscious Psychology<u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif"><a href="http://www.mindmagazine.net" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">www.mindmagazine.net</a><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif"><a href="http://squa62.wix.com/future-life-net" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">http://squa62.wix.com/future-<wbr>life-net</a><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif">On Jan 11, 2017, at 7:42 AM, Prof. Brian J Ford <<a href="mailto:bjford@sciences.demon.co.uk" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">bjford@sciences.demon.co.uk</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></div></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif"> <u></u><u></u></div><div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:timesnewromanpsmt"> </span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:arial,sans-serif">The extraordinary hyperbole surrounding theoretical physics and cosmology is disproportionate in comparison with sciences with which people should be familiar; I have addressed this in a shortly published article (attached, and in confidence).</span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:timesnewromanpsmt"> </span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:arial,sans-serif">There are strong resonances with the mythical world of Jonathan Swift in all this.</span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:timesnewromanpsmt"> </span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:arial,sans-serif">On the safety of nuclear explosions, although the atomic bomb's capacity for destruction was less than some had predicted, bear in mind (as I have discussed in a recent book) that the Little Boy bomb dropped on Hiroshima contained 59 kg U235, of which only 600 mg was released as thermal energy. Had it all been converted, as some were anticipating, it would have been 100,000 times as powerful.<span class="gmail-m_-7519267249607594355m5174150150129239300gmail-m-3111890092566990028m-3334529888806427818m-7548684774114207021apple-converted-space"> </span></span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:timesnewromanpsmt"> </span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:arial,sans-serif">Best wishes</span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:arial,sans-serif">Brian J Ford</span><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:timesnewromanpsmt"> </span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:arial,sans-serif">Cambridge UK</span><u></u><u></u></div></div><blockquote style="border-style:none none none solid;border-top-width:initial;border-right-width:initial;border-bottom-width:initial;border-top-color:initial;border-right-color:initial;border-bottom-color:initial;border-left-color:black;border-left-width:1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4pt;margin:5pt 0cm 5pt 3.75pt;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px"><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:arial,sans-serif">----- Original Message -----<span class="gmail-m_-7519267249607594355m5174150150129239300gmail-m-3111890092566990028m-3334529888806427818m-7548684774114207021apple-converted-space"> </span></span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:rgb(228,228,228)"><b><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:arial,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span class="gmail-m_-7519267249607594355m5174150150129239300gmail-m-3111890092566990028m-3334529888806427818m-7548684774114207021apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:arial,sans-serif"> </span></span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:arial,sans-serif"><a href="mailto:contact@howgravityworks.org" title="contact@howgravityworks.org" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">contact@howgravityworks.<wbr>org</a></span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><b><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:arial,sans-serif">To:</span></b><span class="gmail-m_-7519267249607594355m5174150150129239300gmail-m-3111890092566990028m-3334529888806427818m-7548684774114207021apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:arial,sans-serif"> </span></span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:arial,sans-serif"><a href="mailto:Online_Sadhu_Sanga@googlegroups.com" title="Online_Sadhu_Sanga@googlegroups.com" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">Online_Sadhu_Sanga@<wbr>googlegroups.com</a></span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><b><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:arial,sans-serif">Sent:</span></b><span class="gmail-m_-7519267249607594355m5174150150129239300gmail-m-3111890092566990028m-3334529888806427818m-7548684774114207021apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:arial,sans-serif"> </span></span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:arial,sans-serif">Tuesday, January 10, 2017 11:06 AM</span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><b><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:arial,sans-serif">Subject:</span></b><span class="gmail-m_-7519267249607594355m5174150150129239300gmail-m-3111890092566990028m-3334529888806427818m-7548684774114207021apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:arial,sans-serif"> </span></span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:arial,sans-serif">RE: [Sadhu Sanga] Re: The False Elephant and the False Ego</span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:timesnewromanpsmt"> </span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:verdana,sans-serif">My apologies if I have offended anyone. It's just sometimes I think that I am really tired of everything.</span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:verdana,sans-serif">(Especially the recent US election.)</span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Thank you again. </span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:verdana,sans-serif"> </span><u></u><u></u></div></div><blockquote id="gmail-m_-7519267249607594355m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021replyBlockquote" style="border-style:none none none solid;border-top-width:initial;border-right-width:initial;border-bottom-width:initial;border-top-color:initial;border-right-color:initial;border-bottom-color:initial;border-left-color:blue;border-left-width:1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt;margin-left:6pt;margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 12pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:verdana,sans-serif">-------- Original Message --------<br>Subject: Re: [Sadhu Sanga] Re: The False Elephant and the False Ego<br>From: "'BMP' via Sadhu-Sanga Under the holy association of Spd. B.M.<br>Puri Maharaja, Ph.D." <<a href="mailto:Online_Sadhu_Sanga@googlegroups.com" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">Online_Sadhu_Sanga@<wbr>googlegroups.com</a>><br>Date: Mon, January 09, 2017 6:25 am<br>To: "<a href="mailto:Online_Sadhu_Sanga@googlegroups.com" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">Online_Sadhu_Sanga@<wbr>googlegroups.com</a>"<br><<a href="mailto:Online_Sadhu_Sanga@googlegroups.com" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">Online_Sadhu_Sanga@<wbr>googlegroups.com</a>></span><u></u><u></u></p><div><div id="gmail-m_-7519267249607594355m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483289622369_494455"><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><span style="font-family:helvetica,sans-serif">Thank 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style="font-size:10pt;font-family:arial,sans-serif"><hr size="1" width="100%" align="center"></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><b><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:arial,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:arial,sans-serif"> "<a href="mailto:contact@howgravityworks.org" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">contact@<wbr>howgravityworks.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:contact@howgravityworks.org" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">contact@howgravityworks.org</a>><br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:Online_Sadhu_Sanga@googlegroups.com" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">Online_Sadhu_Sanga@<wbr>googlegroups.com</a><span class="gmail-m_-7519267249607594355m5174150150129239300gmail-m-3111890092566990028m-3334529888806427818m-7548684774114207021apple-converted-space"> </span><br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, January 7, 2017 5:01 AM<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Sadhu Sanga] Re: The False Elephant and the False Ego</span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><span style="font-family:helvetica,sans-serif"> </span><u></u><u></u></div><div id="gmail-m_-7519267249607594355m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021yiv4413794290"><div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Good answer. What really disturbs me is the ability of the individual to construct a reality for themselves</span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:verdana,sans-serif">that is based in no factual evidence at all. What's even more disturbing is the will of some to impose their</span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:verdana,sans-serif">reality on others even though the imposer knows that the reality they are imposing is false.<span class="gmail-m_-7519267249607594355m5174150150129239300gmail-m-3111890092566990028m-3334529888806427818m-7548684774114207021apple-converted-space"> </span></span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:verdana,sans-serif"> </span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:verdana,sans-serif">An ignorant or illiterate can also create a false reality and impose it on others if they have a strong enough</span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:verdana,sans-serif">personality and that is even more disturbing. Perhaps that is the true reason for Sharia Law to exist.</span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:verdana,sans-serif">It would appear to be a unifying set of rules that unites and controls an otherwise barbaric and chaotic</span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:verdana,sans-serif">mass of ignorant people that would be without discipline without it.</span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:verdana,sans-serif"> </span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:verdana,sans-serif">My reality is the universe is dynamical chaos that manages to fall within parameter. For example;</span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:verdana,sans-serif">All Oak trees are Oaks yet, no two are ever the exactly same. No two Vidalia onions are exactly the same.</span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:verdana,sans-serif">No two stars are exactly the same. At CERN and Fermilab, no two collisions are exactly the same.</span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Their efforts are a waste of time as any particles they create only last nanoseconds and then they "evaporate".</span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:verdana,sans-serif"> </span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:verdana,sans-serif">The really odd thing is not one physicist at those facilities ever ask "Where did they evaporate to?"...</span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:verdana,sans-serif">(The only logical answer is, back to the Aether.) It's just a jobs program for physicists.<span class="gmail-m_-7519267249607594355m5174150150129239300gmail-m-3111890092566990028m-3334529888806427818m-7548684774114207021apple-converted-space"> </span></span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:verdana,sans-serif"> </span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:verdana,sans-serif">What's really odd is they pat themselves on the backs and hand out Nobel Prizes for their efforts.</span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I see the real benefit of those projects is that it's all good magnet R&D...... (For future Antimatter Containment)</span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:verdana,sans-serif"> </span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:verdana,sans-serif">We probably shouldn't be upset about anything. Sometimes I consider that I am the only entity in existence</span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:verdana,sans-serif">and that everything and everyone in my reality is a construct for my amusement. (Or torture lately..... LOL)</span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:verdana,sans-serif">(You can't enjoy the good times without a little bad.)<span class="gmail-m_-7519267249607594355m5174150150129239300gmail-m-3111890092566990028m-3334529888806427818m-7548684774114207021apple-converted-space"> </span></span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:verdana,sans-serif"> </span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Residing in the urban environment give me the impression that the stupid people have propagated out of control.</span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:verdana,sans-serif">And, every one of them has the right to exist..... and vote!....... (There's no hope for Humanity.)</span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:verdana,sans-serif"> </span><u></u><u></u></div></div><blockquote id="gmail-m_-7519267249607594355m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021yiv4413794290replyBlockquote" style="border-style:none none none solid;border-top-width:initial;border-right-width:initial;border-bottom-width:initial;border-top-color:initial;border-right-color:initial;border-bottom-color:initial;border-left-color:blue;border-left-width:1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt;margin-left:6pt;margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><div id="gmail-m_-7519267249607594355m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021yiv4413794290wmQuoteWrapper"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 12pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:verdana,sans-serif">-------- Original Message --------<br>Subject: [Sadhu Sanga] Re: The False Elephant and the False Ego<br>From: "'BMP' via Sadhu-Sanga Under the holy association of Spd. B.M.<br>Puri Maharaja, Ph.D." <<a href="mailto:Online_Sadhu_Sanga@googlegroups.com" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">Online_Sadhu_Sanga@<wbr>googlegroups.com</a>><br>Date: Fri, January 06, 2017 9:18 am<br>To: Online Sadhu Sanga <<a href="mailto:online_sadhu_sanga@googlegroups.com" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">online_sadhu_sanga@<wbr>googlegroups.com</a>></span><u></u><u></u></p><div><div id="gmail-m_-7519267249607594355m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021yiv4413794290yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483289622369_293583"><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><span style="font-family:helvetica,sans-serif">On Jan 4 2017<span class="gmail-m_-7519267249607594355m5174150150129239300gmail-m-3111890092566990028m-3334529888806427818m-7548684774114207021apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:contact@howgravityworks.org" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">contact@howgravityworks.<wbr>org</a> wrote:</span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><span style="font-family:helvetica,sans-serif"> </span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div id="gmail-m_-7519267249607594355m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021yiv4413794290yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483289622369_293584"><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><span style="font-family:helvetica,sans-serif"> </span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div id="gmail-m_-7519267249607594355m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021yiv4413794290yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483289622369_293586"><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><span style="font-family:helvetica,sans-serif">> "The reality we accept is a human construct.”(Deepak Chopra)</span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div id="gmail-m_-7519267249607594355m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021yiv4413794290yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483289622369_293587"><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><span style="font-family:helvetica,sans-serif"> </span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div id="gmail-m_-7519267249607594355m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021yiv4413794290yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483289622369_293589"><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><span style="font-family:helvetica,sans-serif">>I have observed that people do indeed create their own reality. Some even are able to alter >others reality by their mere physical presence. The problem I have with all of it is, all >their realities would seem to be false.</span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div id="gmail-m_-7519267249607594355m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021yiv4413794290yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483289622369_293590"><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><span style="font-family:helvetica,sans-serif"> </span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><span style="font-family:helvetica,sans-serif"><br id="gmail-m_-7519267249607594355m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021yiv4413794290yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483289622369_293591"> </span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div id="gmail-m_-7519267249607594355m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021yiv4413794290yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483289622369_293592"><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><span style="font-family:helvetica,sans-serif">REPLY</span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div id="gmail-m_-7519267249607594355m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021yiv4413794290yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483289622369_293593"><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><span style="font-family:helvetica,sans-serif"> </span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div id="gmail-m_-7519267249607594355m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021yiv4413794290yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483289622369_293595"><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><span style="font-family:helvetica,sans-serif">This seems to be as concise an assessment of the situation as any already presented.</span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div id="gmail-m_-7519267249607594355m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021yiv4413794290yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483289622369_293596"><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><span style="font-family:helvetica,sans-serif"> </span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div id="gmail-m_-7519267249607594355m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021yiv4413794290yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483289622369_293598"><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><span style="font-family:helvetica,sans-serif">It is reasonable to say that individuals may have different interpretations of reality, but in itself Reality is not simply a matter of being a human construct or there would be no meaning to 'error,' 'mistake,' 'illusion,' and so on. Indeed there would be no meaning to 'truth' as opposed to untruth.</span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div id="gmail-m_-7519267249607594355m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021yiv4413794290yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483289622369_293599"><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><span style="font-family:helvetica,sans-serif"> </span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div id="gmail-m_-7519267249607594355m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021yiv4413794290yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483289622369_293601"><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><span style="font-family:helvetica,sans-serif">Human consciousness is limited to its body. An individual is conscious o</span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><span style="font-family:helvetica,sans-serif">nly to the limits of its skin or surface. One may see a tree, or a star, or a bat - but that same individual cannot know or be conscious of what it is like to be a bat, as one recent American philosopher, Thomas Nagel, famously announced in<span class="gmail-m_-7519267249607594355m5174150150129239300gmail-m-3111890092566990028m-3334529888806427818m-7548684774114207021apple-converted-space"> </span><i id="gmail-m_-7519267249607594355m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021yiv4413794290yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483289622369_293709">The Philosophical Review</i> in October 1974.</span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div id="gmail-m_-7519267249607594355m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021yiv4413794290yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483289622369_293602"><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><span style="font-family:helvetica,sans-serif"> </span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div id="gmail-m_-7519267249607594355m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021yiv4413794290yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483289622369_293604"><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><span style="font-family:helvetica,sans-serif">A human being has direct consciousness of its body and of its thoughts, but beyond that it has only representations (signs), images, or reflections (on the mind's mirror) of the world outside its body. Human consciousness is therefore NOT the consciousness of trees, stars, bats, or anything else. It is conscious of other things beyond its</span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><span style="font-family:helvetica,sans-serif"> body, but not the consciousness of those things.</span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><span style="font-family:helvetica,sans-serif"> </span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div id="gmail-m_-7519267249607594355m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021yiv4413794290yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483289622369_293605"><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><span style="font-family:helvetica,sans-serif"> </span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div id="gmail-m_-7519267249607594355m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021yiv4413794290yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483289622369_293607"><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><span style="font-family:helvetica,sans-serif">However, there is a consciousness of both individual human consciousness and the other things/persons of which an individual may be conscious. That universal consciousness is not only the consciousness of all Reality but also the consciousness of itself, i.e. it is self-consciousness in and for Itself. This universal self-consciousness is identical with itself as Reality, since Reality is the manifestation or expression of itself as real (being-for-other, or Otherness), while not losing its being-for-itself or self-consciousness as its ideality or Self-Concept. Here we find the true dynamic meaning of<span class="gmail-m_-7519267249607594355m5174150150129239300gmail-m-3111890092566990028m-3334529888806427818m-7548684774114207021apple-converted-space"> </span><i>Advaita</i> (non-duality), or the negation of<span class="gmail-m_-7519267249607594355m5174150150129239300gmail-m-3111890092566990028m-3334529888806427818m-7548684774114207021apple-converted-space"> </span><i>dvaita</i> (duality). Reality as the Otherness of Universal Self-consciousness is simultaneously Other (different from) yet identical (same as) universal Self consciousness being the manifest determinateness of what Self-consciousness is.</span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div id="gmail-m_-7519267249607594355m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021yiv4413794290yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483289622369_293608"><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><span style="font-family:helvetica,sans-serif"> </span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div id="gmail-m_-7519267249607594355m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021yiv4413794290yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483289622369_293610"><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><span style="font-family:helvetica,sans-serif">To strip Universal Self-consciousness of its Reality is to abstract consciousness from its concrete Truth as Self-consciousness of Itself. In other words, it is to end up with a one-sided mental abstraction from the concrete or whole truth. There are two mistakes here: 1. not only is Universal Self-consciousness abstracted from Its own Reality, but 2. Self-consciousness is naievly reduced to consciousness which lacks the integral unity essential to it (the Self or true Ego) - what Kant called the unity of apperception. </span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div id="gmail-m_-7519267249607594355m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021yiv4413794290yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483289622369_293611"><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><span style="font-family:helvetica,sans-serif"> </span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div id="gmail-m_-7519267249607594355m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021yiv4413794290yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483289622369_293613"><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><span style="font-family:helvetica,sans-serif">These mistakes are the result of relying on contingent irrational intuitions (instincts) without proper philosophical study or knowledge of the logical necessity that governs the internal rationality of all thought sequences or movement. Philosophers of Spirit have studied and reached rational conclusions on the nature of consciousness and its ground in Spirit. Those who ignore that body of knowledge are illiterate and can only be victimized by their own conditioned instincts. That is not how human knowledge or science advances. </span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div id="gmail-m_-7519267249607594355m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021yiv4413794290yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483289622369_293614"><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><span style="font-family:helvetica,sans-serif"> </span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div id="gmail-m_-7519267249607594355m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021yiv4413794290yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483289622369_293616"><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><span style="font-family:helvetica,sans-serif">When an image is reflected in a mirror, the image is not considered to be the result of glass and silver of the mirror somehow acting to create the image. The image has its orgin outside of the mirror and is made of completely different stuff. A tree reflected in a lake is not made of water. A radio playing back a broadcast it has received is not producing the broadcast from itself. Each of these examples provide metaphors for how to understand the difference between a reality outside of human consciousness can be reflected within an individual's consciousness without being the product of that consciousness. </span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div id="gmail-m_-7519267249607594355m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021yiv4413794290yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483289622369_293617"><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><span style="font-family:helvetica,sans-serif"> </span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div id="gmail-m_-7519267249607594355m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021yiv4413794290yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483289622369_293619"><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><span style="font-family:helvetica,sans-serif">At the same time Reality is not fixed in stone; it is not an inert slab or impersonal substance. It does not exist only as a reflection within human consciousness, nor as a product of human consciousness. Such ideas do not pass the examination of rational thought. The idea that Reality is Self-conscious Thinking Being in and for itself [Spirit/God] does not suffer that defect. An individual is a finite moment or instantiation of Living Reality that reflects that Reality immanently within its infinitesimal self and can interpret or misinterpret it according to the extent of its knowledge and wisdom. </span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div id="gmail-m_-7519267249607594355m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021yiv4413794290yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483289622369_293620"><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><span style="font-family:helvetica,sans-serif"> </span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div id="gmail-m_-7519267249607594355m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021yiv4413794290yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483289622369_293622"><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><span style="font-family:helvetica,sans-serif">Sincerely,</span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div id="gmail-m_-7519267249607594355m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021yiv4413794290yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483289622369_293623"><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><span style="font-family:helvetica,sans-serif">Bhakti Madhava Puri, Ph.D.</span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div id="gmail-m_-7519267249607594355m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021yiv4413794290yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483289622369_293624"><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new 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roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><span style="font-family:helvetica,sans-serif"> "The reality we accept is a human construct.”(Deepak Chopra)</span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div id="gmail-m_-7519267249607594355m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021yiv4413794290yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483289622369_293642"><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><span style="font-family:helvetica,sans-serif"> </span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div id="gmail-m_-7519267249607594355m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021yiv4413794290yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483289622369_293643"><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><span style="font-family:helvetica,sans-serif">I have observed that people do indeed create their own reality. Some even are able to alter others reality by their mere physical presence. The problem I have with all of it is, all their realities would seem to be false.</span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div id="gmail-m_-7519267249607594355m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021yiv4413794290yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483289622369_293644"><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><span style="font-family:helvetica,sans-serif"> </span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div id="gmail-m_-7519267249607594355m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021yiv4413794290yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483289622369_293645"><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><span style="font-family:helvetica,sans-serif">Being an electrical contractor my entire working life, I have observed the following scenario; I am working in a large commercial building with a thousand people sitting in cubicles with phones and computers.</span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div id="gmail-m_-7519267249607594355m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021yiv4413794290yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483289622369_293646"><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><span style="font-family:helvetica,sans-serif">There's everyone from CEO to janitor working there also.</span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div id="gmail-m_-7519267249607594355m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021yiv4413794290yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483289622369_293647"><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><span style="font-family:helvetica,sans-serif"> </span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div id="gmail-m_-7519267249607594355m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021yiv4413794290yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483289622369_293648"><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><span style="font-family:helvetica,sans-serif">Suddenly, "Boom" the electricity for the entire building goes out.</span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div id="gmail-m_-7519267249607594355m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021yiv4413794290yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483289622369_293649"><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><span style="font-family:helvetica,sans-serif">Until I can rush to the main distribution switchgear and restore power, they all become totally useless.</span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div id="gmail-m_-7519267249607594355m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021yiv4413794290yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483289622369_293650"><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><span style="font-family:helvetica,sans-serif"> </span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div id="gmail-m_-7519267249607594355m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021yiv4413794290yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483289622369_293652"><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><span style="font-family:helvetica,sans-serif">If the power went out permanently, they would all be sitting around candles chanting "Nam myoho renge kyo".</span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div id="gmail-m_-7519267249607594355m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021yiv4413794290yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483289622369_293653"><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><span style="font-family:helvetica,sans-serif"> </span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div id="gmail-m_-7519267249607594355m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021yiv4413794290yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483289622369_293655"><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif;background-image:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><span style="font-family:helvetica,sans-serif">It's actually a frightening scenario to me. 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