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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-GB link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Dear Bruno,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thank you very much indeed for this intriguing mathematical analysis of God. You have touched the aspect of Self in you comment. In relation to it I would like to share our paper where the Selfhood was studied on the group of experienced meditators: <a href="http://www.bm-science.com/team/art87_in-press.pdf">http://www.bm-science.com/team/art87_in-press.pdf</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Greetings,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>A&A<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Fis [mailto:fis-bounces@listas.unizar.es] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Bruno Marchal<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 26 January, 2017 19:54<br><b>To:</b> Andrew Fingelkurts / BM-Science<br><b>Cc:</b> 'Jeremy Dunning-Davies'; contact@howgravityworks.org; squash@gotsky.com; 'fis'; 'Diego Lucio Rapoport'; 'Brian J Ford'; Online_Sadhu_Sanga@googlegroups.com<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fis] [Sadhu Sanga] Physics hype ...<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Dear Andrew,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 26 Jan 2017, at 10:22, Andrew Fingelkurts / BM-Science wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Dear Diego,</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thank you very much for your thoughtful comments. We are not mathematicians neither physicists, therefore some advanced concepts are not easy to follow, but we will try to look at your work in relation to your comments :)</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>In the end of your message you have referred to the dilemma of God… It sounds similar to our paper: “Is our brain hardwired to produce God or is our brain hardwired to perceive God? A systematic review on the role of the brain in mediating religious experience.” This paper is outside the physics domain and also does not touch explicitly ‘information’, - it discusses the empirical evidence about the neural constituents of religious experience and analyse it critically. For those who might be interested, please have a look here:<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="http://www.bm-science.com/team/art56.pdf">http://www.bm-science.com/team/art56.pdf</a></span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Very interesting paper. Is God invented or discovered? Usually that question is asked for mathematical notions.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>If we assume Computationalism (Digital Mechanism), the religious experience is when a universal number or digital machine discovers that truth extends its own reason ability. Gödel's second incompleteness theorem, with f = "false", and [] = Gödel's bewesibar predicate, and "~" the negation, is that the formula ~[]f -> ~[](~[]f) is true *about* self-referentially correct (or just consistent) system, and that is remarkable, but, as Gödel claimed already (and was proved later by Hilbert & Bernays) the remarkable fact is that such system, if rich enough to "believe" in the induction axioms, can prove its own Gödel's theorem, and develop what looks like an intuition and a learning ability with respect to the truth extending its justifiability spectrum, like when we believe in Universe(s) or God(s). For machine, there is a corona of true but non justifiable by reason alone, extending reason. I call it now the surrational, as it extends the provable with the true but non provable assertions.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>In fact, incompleteness re-introduces the Theaetetus' nuances between truth, belief ([]p) and knowledge ([]p & p), and if we define the soul by the first person knower, we get the material nuances as well, making the theology of the self-referentially correct machine testable, by comparing its constraints with the empirical apparent constraints, which I did, actually.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Those theologies are closer to Parmenides, Plato, Moderatus of Gades, and the Neoplatonists (Plotinus, Proclus, ...) than to Aristotle. Yet it follows logically from assuming only that consciousness (the zeroth mystical state) is invariant for some recursive permutation. The incompleteness divides all points of view into the rationally communicable and the non rationally communicable one. Only for the Soul such division does not occur. For the material views, this leads, arguably, to the splitting between quanta and qualia.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Machines have a very interesting canonical theology, in the Plato sense where the divine is extensional to the truth. The machines, like Peano Arithmetic; or Zermelo-Fraenkel Set Theory, already know that their soul is *not* a machine. For them, experiencing truth is true but neither definable still less provable. Experiencing consistency is definable, but not provable, but somehow testable locally.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Best,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Bruno<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Greetings,</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>A&A</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span class=apple-converted-space><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> </span></span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>Diego Lucio Rapoport [<a href="mailto:diego.rapoport@gmail.com">mailto:diego.rapoport@gmail.com</a>]<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><br><b>Sent:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Wednesday, 25 January, 2017 04:38<br><b>To:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Andrew Fingelkurts / BM-Science<br><b>Cc:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="mailto:Online_Sadhu_Sanga@googlegroups.com">Online_Sadhu_Sanga@googlegroups.com</a>;<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="mailto:squash@gotsky.com">squash@gotsky.com</a>; Jeremy Dunning-Davies; fis; Brian J Ford;<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="mailto:contact@howgravityworks.org">contact@howgravityworks.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Re: [Fis] [Sadhu Sanga] Physics hype ...</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Dear Andrew and Alexander<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Thank you dearly for your most striking comment that the transition of non-linear thermodynamical systems from exploding entropy to a reorganization of the system<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>through negative entropy as per my work is the case of the brain as per your work following Freeman's tradition. (You even wrote it almost identically to my own presentation!)<br>Allow me to suggest however, that rather than a nested hierarchy (say a Matrushka) as already suggested by Freeman, which is an iterated dual logophysics,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>the case is of an hyperKlein Bottle which is non-dual and heterarchical, rather than hierarchical (or, in other terms, both), as discussed in my work retaking MacCulloch's 1945 work.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>The neural networks that Freeman considered as producing the nested hierarchy may well be non-orientable (Mobius strip ) as discussed also in my work, being the case that the topographic<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>maps of vision and somatosensory systems have the Klein Bottle topology, as is also the case of genomes.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>I look forward to study your works and return to you.<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><br>By the way, this non-dual logophysics which integrates Outside and Inside -as is the Klein Bottle- seems to be the natural one regarding the issue whether<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>God(s) produces our bodies as to cognize him (her) and organize our lives or we produce God(s).<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='color:black'>Best and kind regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='color:black'>Diego Rapoport<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>PS Does the dimensional reduction of the olfactory phenomenology to the single radial "spherical" dimension at the olfactory bulb<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><br>indicates a projective geometry with antipodal points identified, as retaken by Freeman from earlier research?<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><br>Would that be indeed the case, then finite sections of the bulb would be Mobius strips :-) (!!)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>2017-01-24 7:24 GMT-03:00 Andrew Fingelkurts / BM-Science <<a href="mailto:andrew.fingelkurts@bm-science.com" target="_blank">andrew.fingelkurts@bm-science.com</a>>:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Dear All,</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>In relation to the below mentioned “any non-linear thermodynamical system actually increases to develop a singularity which is followed</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>by the reorganization of the system through negative entropy, following the destruction of the system in its previous form” we would like to comment that exactly the same principle is observed in the nested hierarchy of the brain electromagnetic field that supports the nested hierarchy of mentality and consciousness in particular (for a complete description and discussion, please see <a href="http://www.bm-science.com/team/art76.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.bm-science.com/team/art76.pdf</a>)</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Greetings,</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Andrew and Alexander</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span class=apple-converted-space><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> </span></span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>Fis [<a href="mailto:fis-bounces@listas.unizar.es" target="_blank">mailto:fis-bounces@listas.unizar.es</a>]<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></b>Diego Lucio Rapoport<br><b>Sent:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Monday, 23 January, 2017 05:28<br><b>To:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="mailto:Online_Sadhu_Sanga@googlegroups.com" target="_blank">Online_Sadhu_Sanga@googlegroups.com</a>;<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="mailto:squash@gotsky.com" target="_blank">squash@gotsky.com</a>; Jeremy Dunning-Davies<br><b>Cc:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>fis;<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="mailto:bjford@sciences.demon.co.uk" target="_blank">bjford@sciences.demon.co.uk</a>;<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="mailto:contact@howgravityworks.org" target="_blank">contact@howgravityworks.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Re: [Fis] [Sadhu Sanga] Physics hype ...</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='color:black'>Dear Colleagues<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Returning to the issue discussed by Dr Rich Norman of the validity of the second law of thermodynamics in relation to biology where negative entropy drives<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>systems to self-organize, I would like to comment that<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><u>any non-linear</u><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>thermodynamical system actually increases to develop a singularity which is followed<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>by the reorganization of the system through negative entropy, following the destruction of the system in its previous form.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='color:black'><br>This is related to the non-orientability -say Mobius strip- of the compactified complex number system as discussed in<br><a href="https://www.academia.edu/30485983/Klein_Bottle_Logophysics_Self-reference_Heterarchies_Genomic_Topologies_Harmonics_and_Evolution._Part_I_Morphomechanics_Space_and_Time_in_Biology_and_Physics_Cognition_Non-Linearity_and_the_Structure_of_Uncertainty" target="_blank">https://www.academia.edu/30485983/Klein_Bottle_Logophysics_Self-reference_Heterarchies_Genomic_Topologies_Harmonics_and_Evolution._Part_I_Morphomechanics_Space_and_Time_in_Biology_and_Physics_Cognition_Non-Linearity_and_the_Structure_of_Uncertainty</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>and the implications to chemistry, biology, cognition, metamathematics, genomics and evolution are discussed in<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='color:black'><br><a href="https://www.academia.edu/30546256/Klein_Bottle_Logophysics_Self-reference_Heterarchies_Genomic_Topologies_Harmonics_and_Evolution._Part_II_Non-orientability_Cognition_Chemical_Topology_and_Eversions_in_Nature" target="_blank">https://www.academia.edu/30546256/Klein_Bottle_Logophysics_Self-reference_Heterarchies_Genomic_Topologies_Harmonics_and_Evolution._Part_II_Non-orientability_Cognition_Chemical_Topology_and_Eversions_in_Nature</a><br><br><a href="https://www.academia.edu/30518156/Klein_Bottle_Logophysics_Self-reference_Heterarchies_Genomic_Topologies_Harmonics_and_Evolution._Part_III_The_Klein_Bottle_Logic_of_Genomics_and_its_Dynamics_Quantum_Information_Complexity_and_Palindromic_Repeats_in_Evolution" target="_blank">https://www.academia.edu/30518156/Klein_Bottle_Logophysics_Self-reference_Heterarchies_Genomic_Topologies_Harmonics_and_Evolution._Part_III_The_Klein_Bottle_Logic_of_Genomics_and_its_Dynamics_Quantum_Information_Complexity_and_Palindromic_Repeats_in_Evolution</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='color:black'>Best regards<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Diego Rapoport<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='color:black'><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt;border-width:initial;border-color:initial'><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>w). Thank you for starting this topic, Dr. Ford. Your piece is correct by my estimation, and fits quite exactly with many statements in our new book. [Are you familiar with Bechamp?…that chalk sir! You may request a paper which makes tangible use of physics within cell biology. Those were stunning images in your paper.] There is a great deal of this rot in physics and cosmology. Before I begin a new thread concerning causality, I must add my sad approval to the exhausted refrain below, which did not offend me in any way. The situation in my broken country and the world inspires such painful honesty. I will put a link to a paper concerning gravitation which is in keeping, added below the following comment by Eric Sabo, and then a possible explanation. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>“At CERN and Fermilab, no two collisions are exactly the same.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Their efforts are a waste of time as any particles they create only last nanoseconds and then they "evaporate".<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>The really odd thing is not one physicist at those facilities ever ask "Where did they evaporate to?"...<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>(The only logical answer is, back to the Aether.) It's just a jobs program for physicists.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>What's really odd is they pat themselves on the backs and hand out Nobel Prizes for their efforts.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>I see the real benefit of those projects is that it's all good magnet R&D...... (For future Antimatter Containment)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>. . . .Residing in the urban environment give me the impression that the stupid people have propagated out of control.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>And, every one of them has the right to exist..... and vote!....... (There's no hope for Humanity.)”<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>You sir, are right! <span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="https://www.researchgate.net/publication/310845151_Practical_and_theoretical_assessment_of_relativistic_theory_v_2?ev=prf_pub" target="_blank">https://www.researchgate.net/publication/310845151_Practical_and_theoretical_assessment_of_relativistic_theory_v_2?ev=prf_pub</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>I have just completed a book detailing a great deal of this kind of thing. A LONG book, gentlemen! <i><u>Science hype, and deception</u></i>. Just look at all that overstatement and deception. Have you read the papers debunking LIGO? Here is our new book<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><i>Beyond the Veil: Deception, truth and the hidden promise of science</i>.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Beyond-Veil-Deception-Thoughts-Conventional/dp/1541117409/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1483385806&sr=1-1" target="_blank">https://www.amazon.com/Beyond-Veil-Deception-Thoughts-Conventional/dp/1541117409/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1483385806&sr=1-1</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:black'>Here is a new thought for you:</span></b><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Does the second law of thermodynamics imply by necessity the social turbulence we see all around us? The answer is no, entropy increase itself does not imply social discord as a necessary consequence. Biological life is itself an expression of negative entropy, an exporting of entropy in order to sustain itself and its organized processes. The biology should by multiplicative extension increase negative entropy through numerical increase. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>I will speculate to explain the effects witnessed: The effect we see, the social horror then, I will hypothesize is a function of the lack of emergent intelligence from the new larger system. Instead of a healthy intra-connected single human system, as analogously in the case of a mat of bacteria relating to its cohabited environment, the<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="https://www.researchgate.net/publication/296687326_Physical_Non-Contact_Communication_between_Microscopic_Aquatic_Species_Novel_Experimental_Evidences_for_an_Interspecies_Information_Exchange?enrichId=rgreq-509630d830172fd20d252b3bd4d6f19c-XXX&enrichSource=Y292ZXJQYWdlOzI5NjY4NzMyNjtBUzozMzU5NTA0MDk0MjA4MDdAMTQ1NzEwODIyNzI5NQ%3D%3D&el=1_x_2&_esc=publicationCoverPdf" target="_blank">connection between the microorganisms fostering a cooperative intelligence to emerge which guides proliferation and development</a>, a function terminated with interrupted intra-connectivity, our race is set against itself, the single system broken apart, our unconscious connectivity in my estimation has been shut off: we compete at every turn, and our mental topography has removed the inner means to support the healthy effect! I believe, the paper linked below contains the answer. To have altered the aspects in this document, has changed my ‘luck.’ My entire world seems effortless and on track. I believe, the loss of identifications with the world and our fellow humans is the cause of the discord. Theoretically, as a mat of bacteria, we should operate in cooperative mutual adjustment with the other organisms which share our environment…I hypothesize: but for this.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><a href="https://www.researchgate.net/publication/309566203_Super-ego_and_the_neuroscience_of_empathy_from_unconscious_wish_to_manifest_behavior--a_new_human_model" target="_blank">https://www.researchgate.net/publication/309566203_Super-ego_and_the_neuroscience_of_empathy_from_unconscious_wish_to_manifest_behavior--a_new_human_model</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Thank you for all this new thinking. The recent email from John Kineman was simply excellent. I will begin a thread later on related topics.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Thank you,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Rich Norman<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Journal of Unconscious Psychology<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><a href="http://www.mindmagazine.net" target="_blank">www.mindmagazine.net</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><a href="http://squa62.wix.com/future-life-net" target="_blank">http://squa62.wix.com/future-life-net</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>On Jan 11, 2017, at 7:42 AM, Prof. Brian J Ford <<a href="mailto:bjford@sciences.demon.co.uk" target="_blank">bjford@sciences.demon.co.uk</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"timesnewromanpsmt","serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>The extraordinary hyperbole surrounding theoretical physics and cosmology is disproportionate in comparison with sciences with which people should be familiar; I have addressed this in a shortly published article (attached, and in confidence).</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"timesnewromanpsmt","serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>There are strong resonances with the mythical world of Jonathan Swift in all this.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"timesnewromanpsmt","serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>On the safety of nuclear explosions, although the atomic bomb's capacity for destruction was less than some had predicted, bear in mind (as I have discussed in a recent book) that the Little Boy bomb dropped on Hiroshima contained 59 kg U235, of which only 600 mg was released as thermal energy. Had it all been converted, as some were anticipating, it would have been 100,000 times as powerful.<span class="m5174150150129239300gmail-m-3111890092566990028m-3334529888806427818m-7548684774114207021apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"timesnewromanpsmt","serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Best wishes</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Brian J Ford</span><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"timesnewromanpsmt","serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Cambridge UK</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid black 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt;border-width:initial;border-color:initial;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>----- Original Message -----<span class="m5174150150129239300gmail-m-3111890092566990028m-3334529888806427818m-7548684774114207021apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:#E4E4E4'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span class="m5174150150129239300gmail-m-3111890092566990028m-3334529888806427818m-7548684774114207021apple-converted-space"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><a href="mailto:contact@howgravityworks.org" target="_blank" title="contact@howgravityworks.org">contact@howgravityworks.org</a></span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>To:</span></b><span class="m5174150150129239300gmail-m-3111890092566990028m-3334529888806427818m-7548684774114207021apple-converted-space"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><a href="mailto:Online_Sadhu_Sanga@googlegroups.com" target="_blank" title="Online_Sadhu_Sanga@googlegroups.com">Online_Sadhu_Sanga@googlegroups.com</a></span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Sent:</span></b><span class="m5174150150129239300gmail-m-3111890092566990028m-3334529888806427818m-7548684774114207021apple-converted-space"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Tuesday, January 10, 2017 11:06 AM</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Subject:</span></b><span class="m5174150150129239300gmail-m-3111890092566990028m-3334529888806427818m-7548684774114207021apple-converted-space"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>RE: [Sadhu Sanga] Re: The False Elephant and the False Ego</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"timesnewromanpsmt","serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>My apologies if I have offended anyone. It's just sometimes I think that I am really tired of everything.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>(Especially the recent US election.)</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>Thank you again. </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:6.0pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;border-width:initial;border-color:initial' id="m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021replyBlockquote"><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white;background-image:initial;background-attachment:initial;background-origin: initial;background-clip: initial;background-position:initial initial;background-repeat:initial initial'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>-------- Original Message --------<br>Subject: Re: [Sadhu Sanga] Re: The False Elephant and the False Ego<br>From: "'BMP' via Sadhu-Sanga Under the holy association of Spd. B.M.<br>Puri Maharaja, Ph.D." <<a href="mailto:Online_Sadhu_Sanga@googlegroups.com" target="_blank">Online_Sadhu_Sanga@googlegroups.com</a>><br>Date: Mon, January 09, 2017 6:25 am<br>To: "<a href="mailto:Online_Sadhu_Sanga@googlegroups.com" target="_blank">Online_Sadhu_Sanga@googlegroups.com</a>"<br><<a href="mailto:Online_Sadhu_Sanga@googlegroups.com" target="_blank">Online_Sadhu_Sanga@googlegroups.com</a>></span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div id="m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483289622369_494455"><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Thank you, Eric for your intelligent if brutal honesty.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483289622369_494455"><div><p 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id="m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483289622369_494695"><div id="m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483289622369_494694"><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><hr size=1 width="100%" align=center></span></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> "<a href="mailto:contact@howgravityworks.org" target="_blank">contact@howgravityworks.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:contact@howgravityworks.org" target="_blank">contact@howgravityworks.org</a>><br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:Online_Sadhu_Sanga@googlegroups.com" target="_blank">Online_Sadhu_Sanga@googlegroups.com</a><span class="m5174150150129239300gmail-m-3111890092566990028m-3334529888806427818m-7548684774114207021apple-converted-space"> </span><br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, January 7, 2017 5:01 AM<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Sadhu Sanga] Re: The False Elephant and the False Ego</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021yiv4413794290"><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>Good answer. What really disturbs me is the ability of the individual to construct a reality for themselves</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>that is based in no factual evidence at all. What's even more disturbing is the will of some to impose their</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>reality on others even though the imposer knows that the reality they are imposing is false.<span class="m5174150150129239300gmail-m-3111890092566990028m-3334529888806427818m-7548684774114207021apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>An ignorant or illiterate can also create a false reality and impose it on others if they have a strong enough</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>personality and that is even more disturbing. Perhaps that is the true reason for Sharia Law to exist.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>It would appear to be a unifying set of rules that unites and controls an otherwise barbaric and chaotic</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>mass of ignorant people that would be without discipline without it.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>My reality is the universe is dynamical chaos that manages to fall within parameter. For example;</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>All Oak trees are Oaks yet, no two are ever the exactly same. No two Vidalia onions are exactly the same.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>No two stars are exactly the same. At CERN and Fermilab, no two collisions are exactly the same.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>Their efforts are a waste of time as any particles they create only last nanoseconds and then they "evaporate".</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>The really odd thing is not one physicist at those facilities ever ask "Where did they evaporate to?"...</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>(The only logical answer is, back to the Aether.) It's just a jobs program for physicists.<span class="m5174150150129239300gmail-m-3111890092566990028m-3334529888806427818m-7548684774114207021apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>What's really odd is they pat themselves on the backs and hand out Nobel Prizes for their efforts.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>I see the real benefit of those projects is that it's all good magnet R&D...... (For future Antimatter Containment)</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>We probably shouldn't be upset about anything. Sometimes I consider that I am the only entity in existence</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>and that everything and everyone in my reality is a construct for my amusement. (Or torture lately..... LOL)</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>(You can't enjoy the good times without a little bad.)<span class="m5174150150129239300gmail-m-3111890092566990028m-3334529888806427818m-7548684774114207021apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>Residing in the urban environment give me the impression that the stupid people have propagated out of control.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>And, every one of them has the right to exist..... and vote!....... (There's no hope for Humanity.)</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:6.0pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;border-width:initial;border-color:initial' id="m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021yiv4413794290replyBlockquote"><div id="m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021yiv4413794290wmQuoteWrapper"><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>-------- Original Message --------<br>Subject: [Sadhu Sanga] Re: The False Elephant and the False Ego<br>From: "'BMP' via Sadhu-Sanga Under the holy association of Spd. B.M.<br>Puri Maharaja, Ph.D." <<a href="mailto:Online_Sadhu_Sanga@googlegroups.com" target="_blank">Online_Sadhu_Sanga@googlegroups.com</a>><br>Date: Fri, January 06, 2017 9:18 am<br>To: Online Sadhu Sanga <<a href="mailto:online_sadhu_sanga@googlegroups.com" target="_blank">online_sadhu_sanga@googlegroups.com</a>></span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div id="m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021yiv4413794290yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483289622369_293583"><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>On Jan 4 2017<span class="m5174150150129239300gmail-m-3111890092566990028m-3334529888806427818m-7548684774114207021apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:contact@howgravityworks.org" target="_blank">contact@howgravityworks.org</a> wrote:</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021yiv4413794290yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483289622369_293584"><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021yiv4413794290yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483289622369_293586"><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>> "The reality we accept is a human construct.”(Deepak Chopra)</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021yiv4413794290yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483289622369_293587"><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021yiv4413794290yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483289622369_293589"><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>>I have observed that people do indeed create their own reality. Some even are able to alter >others reality by their mere physical presence. The problem I have with all of it is, all >their realities would seem to be false.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021yiv4413794290yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483289622369_293590"><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><br> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021yiv4413794290yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483289622369_293592"><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>REPLY</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021yiv4413794290yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483289622369_293593"><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021yiv4413794290yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483289622369_293595"><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>This seems to be as concise an assessment of the situation as any already presented.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021yiv4413794290yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483289622369_293596"><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021yiv4413794290yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483289622369_293598"><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>It is reasonable to say that individuals may have different interpretations of reality, but in itself Reality is not simply a matter of being a human construct or there would be no meaning to 'error,' 'mistake,' 'illusion,' and so on. Indeed there would be no meaning to 'truth' as opposed to untruth.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021yiv4413794290yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483289622369_293599"><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021yiv4413794290yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483289622369_293601"><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Human consciousness is limited to its body. An individual is conscious o</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>nly to the limits of its skin or surface. One may see a tree, or a star, or a bat - but that same individual cannot know or be conscious of what it is like to be a bat, as one recent American philosopher, Thomas Nagel, famously announced in<span class="m5174150150129239300gmail-m-3111890092566990028m-3334529888806427818m-7548684774114207021apple-converted-space"> </span><i id="m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021yiv4413794290yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483289622369_293709">The Philosophical Review</i> in October 1974.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021yiv4413794290yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483289622369_293602"><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021yiv4413794290yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483289622369_293604"><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>A human being has direct consciousness of its body and of its thoughts, but beyond that it has only representations (signs), images, or reflections (on the mind's mirror) of the world outside its body. Human consciousness is therefore NOT the consciousness of trees, stars, bats, or anything else. It is conscious of other things beyond its</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> body, but not the consciousness of those things.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021yiv4413794290yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483289622369_293605"><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021yiv4413794290yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483289622369_293607"><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>However, there is a consciousness of both individual human consciousness and the other things/persons of which an individual may be conscious. That universal consciousness is not only the consciousness of all Reality but also the consciousness of itself, i.e. it is self-consciousness in and for Itself. This universal self-consciousness is identical with itself as Reality, since Reality is the manifestation or expression of itself as real (being-for-other, or Otherness), while not losing its being-for-itself or self-consciousness as its ideality or Self-Concept. Here we find the true dynamic meaning of<span class="m5174150150129239300gmail-m-3111890092566990028m-3334529888806427818m-7548684774114207021apple-converted-space"> </span><i>Advaita</i> (non-duality), or the negation of<span class="m5174150150129239300gmail-m-3111890092566990028m-3334529888806427818m-7548684774114207021apple-converted-space"> </span><i>dvaita</i> (duality). Reality as the Otherness of Universal Self-consciousness is simultaneously Other (different from) yet identical (same as) universal Self consciousness being the manifest determinateness of what Self-consciousness is.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021yiv4413794290yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483289622369_293608"><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021yiv4413794290yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483289622369_293610"><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>To strip Universal Self-consciousness of its Reality is to abstract consciousness from its concrete Truth as Self-consciousness of Itself. In other words, it is to end up with a one-sided mental abstraction from the concrete or whole truth. There are two mistakes here: 1. not only is Universal Self-consciousness abstracted from Its own Reality, but 2. Self-consciousness is naievly reduced to consciousness which lacks the integral unity essential to it (the Self or true Ego) - what Kant called the unity of apperception. </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021yiv4413794290yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483289622369_293611"><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021yiv4413794290yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483289622369_293613"><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>These mistakes are the result of relying on contingent irrational intuitions (instincts) without proper philosophical study or knowledge of the logical necessity that governs the internal rationality of all thought sequences or movement. Philosophers of Spirit have studied and reached rational conclusions on the nature of consciousness and its ground in Spirit. Those who ignore that body of knowledge are illiterate and can only be victimized by their own conditioned instincts. That is not how human knowledge or science advances. </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021yiv4413794290yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483289622369_293614"><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021yiv4413794290yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483289622369_293616"><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>When an image is reflected in a mirror, the image is not considered to be the result of glass and silver of the mirror somehow acting to create the image. The image has its orgin outside of the mirror and is made of completely different stuff. A tree reflected in a lake is not made of water. A radio playing back a broadcast it has received is not producing the broadcast from itself. Each of these examples provide metaphors for how to understand the difference between a reality outside of human consciousness can be reflected within an individual's consciousness without being the product of that consciousness. </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021yiv4413794290yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483289622369_293617"><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021yiv4413794290yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483289622369_293619"><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>At the same time Reality is not fixed in stone; it is not an inert slab or impersonal substance. It does not exist only as a reflection within human consciousness, nor as a product of human consciousness. Such ideas do not pass the examination of rational thought. The idea that Reality is Self-conscious Thinking Being in and for itself [Spirit/God] does not suffer that defect. An individual is a finite moment or instantiation of Living Reality that reflects that Reality immanently within its infinitesimal self and can interpret or misinterpret it according to the extent of its knowledge and wisdom. </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021yiv4413794290yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483289622369_293620"><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021yiv4413794290yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483289622369_293622"><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Sincerely,</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div 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id="m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021yiv4413794290yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483289622369_293639"><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021yiv4413794290yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483289622369_293641"><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> "The reality we accept is a human construct.”(Deepak Chopra)</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021yiv4413794290yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483289622369_293642"><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021yiv4413794290yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483289622369_293643"><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>I have observed that people do indeed create their own reality. Some even are able to alter others reality by their mere physical presence. The problem I have with all of it is, all their realities would seem to be false.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021yiv4413794290yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483289622369_293644"><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021yiv4413794290yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483289622369_293645"><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Being an electrical contractor my entire working life, I have observed the following scenario; I am working in a large commercial building with a thousand people sitting in cubicles with phones and computers.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021yiv4413794290yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483289622369_293646"><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>There's everyone from CEO to janitor working there also.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021yiv4413794290yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483289622369_293647"><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021yiv4413794290yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483289622369_293648"><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Suddenly, "Boom" the electricity for the entire building goes out.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021yiv4413794290yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483289622369_293649"><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Until I can rush to the main distribution switchgear and restore power, they all become totally useless.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021yiv4413794290yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483289622369_293650"><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021yiv4413794290yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483289622369_293652"><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>If the power went out permanently, they would all be sitting around candles chanting "Nam myoho renge kyo".</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021yiv4413794290yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483289622369_293653"><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="m_5174150150129239300gmail-m_-3111890092566990028m_-3334529888806427818m_-7548684774114207021yiv4413794290yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483289622369_293655"><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>It's actually a frightening scenario to me. 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